Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama expelled 30 Russian "diplomats" because of their 2016 election interference, and Flynn is begging the Russians not to retaliate because it would put Trump in a box for their future plans.

Why do Trump supporters think this is ok?

Obama made the mistake he always makes. With an innate hatred for the U.S. and past colonialism, he always gives priority to other countries over U.S. interests. To do other wise would be "embarrassing". We must be brought down to everyone else's level.

By Obama being able to do that, he's and democrats are SO much more able to use self-introspection as honesty... a quality the right doesn't possess. The right is just "lizard brain". That makes the left automatically much better from the get go. Scary, ain't it? That's the mindset.

Meanwhile, Russia does what it's done for the past 75 years - played head games thru disinformation.

After the horse is out of the barn, the whining begins.


Remember Reagan's "Trust but verify"? That thinking is SO uncouth, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting into a tit for tat is standard operating procedure. I can’t even imagine what Flynn was thinking or why on earth he thought he would get away with it.

What was he trying to get away with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting into a tit for tat is standard operating procedure. I can’t even imagine what Flynn was thinking or why on earth he thought he would get away with it.

What was he trying to get away with?

Undermine our national security and stated foreign policy.

[Anonymous]

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/29/fact-sheet-actions-response-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-and

Expulsions were in response to "harrassment" of US personnel.

Sanctions were in response to cyber issues--election meddling, I guess.

Ironic, that we now know there is no proof that it was the Russians who hacked DNC.

[Anonymous]

Obama expelled 30 Russian "diplomats" because of their 2016 election interference, and Flynn is begging the Russians not to retaliate because it would put Trump in a box for their future plans.

No. The expulsions were in response to harrassment. Here you go:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/29/fact-sheet-actions-response-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-and

"Responding to Russian Harassment of U.S. Personnel

Over the past two years, harassment of our diplomatic personnel in Russia by security personnel and police has increased significantly and gone far beyond international diplomatic norms of behavior. Other Western Embassies have reported similar concerns. In response to this harassment, the President has authorized the following actions:

Today the State Department declared 35 Russian government officials from the Russian Embassy in Washington and the Russian Consulate in San Francisco “persona non grata.” They were acting in a manner inconsistent with their diplomatic status. Those individuals and their families were given 72 hours to leave the United States.
In addition to this action, the Department of State has provided notice that as of noon on Friday, December 30, Russian access will be denied to two Russian government-owned compounds, one in Maryland and one in New York."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama expelled 30 Russian "diplomats" because of their 2016 election interference, and Flynn is begging the Russians not to retaliate because it would put Trump in a box for their future plans.

Why do Trump supporters think this is ok?

So, he should have encouraged them to retaliate? Do you hear yourself?

He didn't have to talk to Kislyak at all. He could have waited until after the inauguration.

He knew that. That's why he lied.

Other incoming advisors have talked with foreign diplomats during the transition period. Like it or not, the Russian was the ambassador to the United States.

He did not discuss sanctions. He discussed the expulsions. The LATimes did not lump them together but referred to them as expulsions and sanctions. They are not the same thing. There were financial sanctions which were likely much more troubling to the Russians. And, even then, "discuss" is a little strong when you consider that he just asked that they not get into a "tit for tat."

I just reread the summaries and transcripts all the way through and it seems clear to me that Flynn was making up US policy on his own, right then and there. Not on Trump's behalf.

Just himself.

That's why he lied to everyone, because he seriously overstepped.

[Anonymous]

^^^ And he was also getting paid by Russia but didn't tell anyone because they'd get the wrong idea. Or the right one.

[Anonymous]

The tone of the transcript is totally collude-y. You wanted collusion? There it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama expelled 30 Russian "diplomats" because of their 2016 election interference, and Flynn is begging the Russians not to retaliate because it would put Trump in a box for their future plans.

Why do Trump supporters think this is ok?

So, he should have encouraged them to retaliate? Do you hear yourself?

He didn't have to talk to Kislyak at all. He could have waited until after the inauguration.

He knew that. That's why he lied.

Other incoming advisors have talked with foreign diplomats during the transition period. Like it or not, the Russian was the ambassador to the United States.

He did not discuss sanctions. He discussed the expulsions. The LATimes did not lump them together but referred to them as expulsions and sanctions. They are not the same thing. There were financial sanctions which were likely much more troubling to the Russians. And, even then, "discuss" is a little strong when you consider that he just asked that they not get into a "tit for tat."

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
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44s
Flynn defenders: It never happened
*it happened*
It was a routine convo
*not routine*
But he didn't lie
*he lied*
But he didn't lie about sanctions
*he lied about sanctions*
We WON! Full exoneration!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama expelled 30 Russian "diplomats" because of their 2016 election interference, and Flynn is begging the Russians not to retaliate because it would put Trump in a box for their future plans.

Why do Trump supporters think this is ok?

So, he should have encouraged them to retaliate? Do you hear yourself?

He didn't have to talk to Kislyak at all. He could have waited until after the inauguration.

He knew that. That's why he lied.

Other incoming advisors have talked with foreign diplomats during the transition period. Like it or not, the Russian was the ambassador to the United States.

He did not discuss sanctions. He discussed the expulsions. The LATimes did not lump them together but referred to them as expulsions and sanctions. They are not the same thing. There were financial sanctions which were likely much more troubling to the Russians. And, even then, "discuss" is a little strong when you consider that he just asked that they not get into a "tit for tat."

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
·
44s
Flynn defenders: It never happened
*it happened*
It was a routine convo
*not routine*
But he didn't lie
*he lied*
But he didn't lie about sanctions
*he lied about sanctions*
We WON! Full exoneration!

He did not discuss sanctions. He discussed expulsions. Not the same thing. There is a difference according to the Obama White House. The expulsions were not in response to the election meddling. They were in response to harrassment.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/29/fact-sheet-actions-response-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-and
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/29/fact-sheet-actions-response-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-and

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama expelled 30 Russian "diplomats" because of their 2016 election interference, and Flynn is begging the Russians not to retaliate because it would put Trump in a box for their future plans.

Why do Trump supporters think this is ok?

So, he should have encouraged them to retaliate? Do you hear yourself?

He didn't have to talk to Kislyak at all. He could have waited until after the inauguration.

He knew that. That's why he lied.

Other incoming advisors have talked with foreign diplomats during the transition period. Like it or not, the Russian was the ambassador to the United States.

He did not discuss sanctions. He discussed the expulsions. The LATimes did not lump them together but referred to them as expulsions and sanctions. They are not the same thing. There were financial sanctions which were likely much more troubling to the Russians. And, even then, "discuss" is a little strong when you consider that he just asked that they not get into a "tit for tat."

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
·
44s
Flynn defenders: It never happened
*it happened*
It was a routine convo
*not routine*
But he didn't lie
*he lied*
But he didn't lie about sanctions
*he lied about sanctions*
We WON! Full exoneration!

He did not discuss sanctions. He discussed expulsions. Not the same thing. There is a difference according to the Obama White House. The expulsions were not in response to the election meddling. They were in response to harrassment.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/29/fact-sheet-actions-response-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-and
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/29/fact-sheet-actions-response-russian-malicious-cyber-activity-and

The transcripts show discussion of both expulsions and sanctions.

[Anonymous]

The transcripts show discussion of both expulsions and sanctions.

Not really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The transcripts show discussion of both expulsions and sanctions.

Not really.

If they say it over and over and over again, it clearly happened.

[Anonymous]

Kislyak brought up sanctions. Flynn pivoted to expulsions. Read it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kislyak brought up sanctions. Flynn pivoted to expulsions. Read it.

Exactly. That is hardly a "discussion" about sanctions.