With Love, Meghan on Netflix

[Anonymous]

Netflix has tons of bad shows. They know that people enjoy hate-watching her. Poor woman, whatever she does, someone will have bad things to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You guys are ridiculous.

As long as everything she releases ends up in the Netflix top 10, Netflix will keep working with her. It’s that simple. Nobody cares if you hate watch it or watch it for enjoyment.

Its viewership also came from Baltic bot farms. Even if those viewers were real they aren’t buying her jams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is just weird to me. Pretty much nobody knew who she was until Harry came along but suddenly now she is doing these Netflix shows and podcasts and going by one name as if she is Cher or Madonna.

She has definitely won at striving. She should do a podcast on that. Drop the real tea. She is not a credible founder or homemaker. She excels at climbing. Own it.

I think she definitely won at striving. She saw her acting career coming to an end as she neared 40 so she set her sights on a rich British husband. There are pictures of her sitting by herself at Wimbledon a few years before she got with Harry. Allegedly she asked Piers Morgan to make introductions for her among some upper class business types in England.
Piers did not help her but she somehow ended up meeting Harry at one of the Soho House clubs.

The thing about Harry is he is charming but is also am emotionally challenged man baby.. He sulks and pouts as evidenced by multiple photos. All the other girlfriends left him for a reason. I think the British royal family created a better image for him than he actually deserves.

I agree with you. Meghan didn't lead Harry anywhere he didn't want to go. They are both emotionally damaged and he isn't better than his wife. I wish they would both go away until they have done enough self-reflection to change their attitude.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
You guys are ridiculous.

As long as everything she releases ends up in the Netflix top 10, Netflix will keep working with her. It’s that simple. Nobody cares if you hate watch it or watch it for enjoyment.

Its viewership also came from Baltic bot farms. Even if those viewers were real they aren’t buying her jams.

So the show hit 6th place in the Baltic region, and that skewed it into the worldwide top ten? Is there really that much viewership in that area to tip the worldwide numbers? It was 7th in UK and Australia.

Source: https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/tv

[Anonymous]

I wonder if she will do the podcast live this time and do her own interviews?

Last time she only did a couple live with people she knew and the rest were her producers doing the interviews and then they spliced a podcast together.

[Anonymous]

Meghan was just incredibly uncharismatic and wooden. I actually felt bad for how awkward she was

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Anonymous wrote:I worked for Meghan and obviously can’t say anything. I just want to thank everyone for their posts. I’m so happy people are finally seeing her for who she truly is. Take that as you wish.

I’m taking it as not true lol. Other than the obvious - that anyone could come on here and say anything and that if you actually had complaints you’d likely go to the press anonymously as opposed to posting on an obscure message board for a city where Meghan has never lived - there have been dozens and dozens of people who worked for her in Hollywood who vouch for her. The only complaints about workplace bullying were from the BRF.

+1. And I firmly believe those were due to her not “fitting in”:

- Being half black
- Being an “actress”
- Being from a socioeconomic class
- Not being painfully shy and super-accommodative to fit in a la Kate Middleton
- Being a typical American “go-getter” who wants to get things done and expects her staff to work instead of sitting around and drinking tea

I would guess they made it miserable for her through typical British snickers. She could have handled it *a lot* better by being calm and waiting it out, but she was immature as well.

Honestly she could have had a blast if she stayed in the BRF. No money troubles or hustling for sponsorships/deals. Show up with nice hair and makeup to cut ribbons and be fawned over. Organize innovative charity events (like that dress thing she did). She could still release inoffensive lifestyle videos for fun.

That fashion collab she did and the cookbook (which I have) were so good. The BRF is missing out. Their loss.

I don’t think she could do lifestyle videos though. They made her take down her blog.

The Queen did say she could continue to work as an actress but I think that was only if she wasn't a working royal. I think she could have had more leeway if she decided to not work for The Firm. But she chose the lifestyle of a working royal which comes with a lot of restrictions. I wonder what would have happened if she chose the other path.

I think the problem was that she and Harry want to be a team and there was (and still is) a lot of pressure on him to be a working royal because he's the heir's brother. The family is structured so that the heir's siblings are really expected to support and absorb a lot of the pressure on the heir and eventually on the monarch. Look at how Margaret did this for Elizabeth, and how Phillip now does it for Charles. They like having senior royals who have high profiles but are not directly in the line of succession to lean on and help. Beatrice and Eugenie could help fill that role to some degree, but they aren't as close to William as Harry was. It's not the same.

If Harry was a working royal and Meghan was off doing other stuff, it's tough on their family and marriage. They want to be doing the same thing. And I think Harry (and Meghan) genuinely thought it would be a good fit and that Meghan's experience with public speaking, charity work (yes haters, she did a lot of charity work before meeting Harry), and dealing with the press would be an asset. But it turned out that (1) the BRF actually didn't want her to bring her experience to the table and to some degree resented the idea that she was bringing those skills in, and (2) those skills didn't transfer as well as she might have expected to the role, which was much more confining and narrow than she realized. But if she didn't fit, then neither did Harry any more, because they are genuinely committed to each other and their family and they want to be a package deal, wherever they go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You guys are ridiculous.

As long as everything she releases ends up in the Netflix top 10, Netflix will keep working with her. It’s that simple. Nobody cares if you hate watch it or watch it for enjoyment.

You are misinformed. Netflix is stuck with them bc they signed a huge contract and paid them a bunch of $ upfront. Netflix will dump them as soon as they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You guys are ridiculous.

As long as everything she releases ends up in the Netflix top 10, Netflix will keep working with her. It’s that simple. Nobody cares if you hate watch it or watch it for enjoyment.

You are misinformed. Netflix is stuck with them bc they signed a huge contract and paid them a bunch of $ upfront. Netflix will dump them as soon as they can.

+1 this is how entertainment contracts work. Both parties are stuck with each other for the time being (Meghan can't dump Netflix either).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I worked for Meghan and obviously can’t say anything. I just want to thank everyone for their posts. I’m so happy people are finally seeing her for who she truly is. Take that as you wish.

I’m taking it as not true lol. Other than the obvious - that anyone could come on here and say anything and that if you actually had complaints you’d likely go to the press anonymously as opposed to posting on an obscure message board for a city where Meghan has never lived - there have been dozens and dozens of people who worked for her in Hollywood who vouch for her. The only complaints about workplace bullying were from the BRF.

+1. And I firmly believe those were due to her not “fitting in”:

- Being half black
- Being an “actress”
- Being from a socioeconomic class
- Not being painfully shy and super-accommodative to fit in a la Kate Middleton
- Being a typical American “go-getter” who wants to get things done and expects her staff to work instead of sitting around and drinking tea

I would guess they made it miserable for her through typical British snickers. She could have handled it *a lot* better by being calm and waiting it out, but she was immature as well.

Honestly she could have had a blast if she stayed in the BRF. No money troubles or hustling for sponsorships/deals. Show up with nice hair and makeup to cut ribbons and be fawned over. Organize innovative charity events (like that dress thing she did). She could still release inoffensive lifestyle videos for fun.

That fashion collab she did and the cookbook (which I have) were so good. The BRF is missing out. Their loss.

I don’t think she could do lifestyle videos though. They made her take down her blog.

The Queen did say she could continue to work as an actress but I think that was only if she wasn't a working royal. I think she could have had more leeway if she decided to not work for The Firm. But she chose the lifestyle of a working royal which comes with a lot of restrictions. I wonder what would have happened if she chose the other path.

I think the problem was that she and Harry want to be a team and there was (and still is) a lot of pressure on him to be a working royal because he's the heir's brother. The family is structured so that the heir's siblings are really expected to support and absorb a lot of the pressure on the heir and eventually on the monarch. Look at how Margaret did this for Elizabeth, and how Phillip now does it for Charles. They like having senior royals who have high profiles but are not directly in the line of succession to lean on and help. Beatrice and Eugenie could help fill that role to some degree, but they aren't as close to William as Harry was. It's not the same.

If Harry was a working royal and Meghan was off doing other stuff, it's tough on their family and marriage. They want to be doing the same thing. And I think Harry (and Meghan) genuinely thought it would be a good fit and that Meghan's experience with public speaking, charity work (yes haters, she did a lot of charity work before meeting Harry), and dealing with the press would be an asset. But it turned out that (1) the BRF actually didn't want her to bring her experience to the table and to some degree resented the idea that she was bringing those skills in, and (2) those skills didn't transfer as well as she might have expected to the role, which was much more confining and narrow than she realized. But if she didn't fit, then neither did Harry any more, because they are genuinely committed to each other and their family and they want to be a package deal, wherever they go.

Yes, it can be very hard for couples when both work in public-facing positions. They would have had to work with the Queen to see if PH could choose his patronages carefully. They probably would have let him out of Royal Tours if his wife wasn't a working royal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You guys are ridiculous.

As long as everything she releases ends up in the Netflix top 10, Netflix will keep working with her. It’s that simple. Nobody cares if you hate watch it or watch it for enjoyment.

Its viewership also came from Baltic bot farms. Even if those viewers were real they aren’t buying her jams.

Netflix doesn't care if anyone buys her jams. They aren't getting a cut of that merchandise I don't think.

PP is right though. And even if the allegation about "baltic bot farms" is true, there's also no question it got a lot of organic interest in the US and UK, even if a lot of it is hate watching or just people who are curious about the royal drama and want to see if it sneaks into the show.

One thing you can't deny is that it gets more media coverage and discussion than 99% of what Netflix makes. It's not on par with their truly big hits -- stuff like Bridgerton, British Baking Show, that romcom with Adam Brody and Kristen Bell. All of those get largely good reviews and I think do drive people to sign up for Netflix in a way that Meghans show never will.

But Netflix has a challenge of keeping viewers between season of those more popular shows, plus they keep raising their prices and they need to combat attrition when they do that. Meghan's show is popular enough to help them flesh out a catalog of content that can keep people engaged. The overlapping interests/audience with Bridgerton and British Baking Show is actually probably a huge selling point for Netflix execs, who are going to view the whole thing coldly as one of demographics and eyeballs. Will Meghan's show give a Bridgerton super fan something to watch while she waits for Season 4 to come out? Yeah, probably, because that viewer likely has an above-average interest in royal family drama, a pretty floral aesthetic, and the concept of having tea. Likewise, someone who binges an entire season of Baking Show is much more likely than other viewers to give Meghan's show a try because of the baking/cooking content. Will these viewers like Meghan's show as much as Bridgerton or Baking Show? No way, it's not as good. But will it keep them from pausing or dropping their Netflix subscription altogether between seasons of the shows they really love? Probably, yes.

And then Netflix also probably sees a lot of potential with the format of Meghan's show and having famous guests. I wrote upthread how I bet Mindy was kind of pushed by Netflix as a guest for Meghan's show, and to have her episode early in the series, because Mindy also has a deal with Netflix and she had a show (that she wrote/produced, not starred in) premiering around the same time. Roy Choi is the episode three guest and he also has a Netflix show -- Meghan had never met him before he did the show and I'm certain that was another Netflix "suggestion". So her show can serve as a platform for them to help promo other Netflix properties and try to get cross-over viewers. Maybe a Baking Show devotee decided to watch Meghan's show because they like baking and British things and they were hoping for a decent cake recipe and a glimpse of Harry (they get both). But then they saw the Roy Choi episode and decide to watch The Chef Show after that even though they'd never heard of him before, because the Korean fried chicken he made with Meghan looked good. Notice that none of this requires you to like Meghan or even like her show that much.

Meghan has been a good investment for Netflix, especially compared to a lot of their content that flops and doesn't go anywhere. It slots into their programming really well and can be a way to drive eyeballs where they want to drive them. Regardless of what you think of Meghan as a person or whether you think her show is good entertainment, it's a solid business move for Netflix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meghan was just incredibly uncharismatic and wooden. I actually felt bad for how awkward she was

Agree, and her voice makes her sound even more uncomfortable. She sounds odd.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the scene with Mindy. If we are supposed to call her Meghan Sussex now, why do the credits say Meghan, Duchess of Sussex? Or was Mindy expected to address her as "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex goes to Jack in the Box. OR was she still Meghan Markle when she went to Jack in the Box, so Mindy was actually correct with her story. What is actually the right thing to call this woman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is just weird to me. Pretty much nobody knew who she was until Harry came along but suddenly now she is doing these Netflix shows and podcasts and going by one name as if she is Cher or Madonna.

She has definitely won at striving. She should do a podcast on that. Drop the real tea. She is not a credible founder or homemaker. She excels at climbing. Own it.

I think she definitely won at striving. She saw her acting career coming to an end as she neared 40 so she set her sights on a rich British husband. There are pictures of her sitting by herself at Wimbledon a few years before she got with Harry. Allegedly she asked Piers Morgan to make introductions for her among some upper class business types in England.
Piers did not help her but she somehow ended up meeting Harry at one of the Soho House clubs.

The thing about Harry is he is charming but is also am emotionally challenged man baby.. He sulks and pouts as evidenced by multiple photos. All the other girlfriends left him for a reason. I think the British royal family created a better image for him than he actually deserves.

I would LOVE for her to speak about this. She needs to discuss her strategy and techniques for social climbing and marrying rich.

[Anonymous]

The research firm probably just meant that the show over-indexed in the Baltics. Then the MM haters ran with that to say MM paid “bot farms” to watch her show. It’s remarkable how much money she has to pay for such things while teetering on bankruptcy. Oh well!