FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

I said most people would be indifferent or happy if Langley’s boundaries are changed. Indifferent = not caring.

Unfortunately for Great Falls, it appears some of those in the latter camp are School Board members, and they may well steamroll the Langley crowd, whose local influence has waned. Calling them “psycho obsessives” when they see themselves just doing their jobs won’t help you much either.

Can't wait for karma to catch up with you.

This whole “karma” thing is stupid. Getting redistricted to a different high school happens. It isn’t divine retribution.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it says a lot that this thread ended up just being about Langley when there are, what, 2 dozen high schools in the area?

Can we stop talking about this school and the republican parents association? Can we move on to other topics now?

I would like to talk about getting rid of AAP at the middle school level. It's completely unnecessary and redundant and a huge waste of money.

Something that will come up repeatedly in the regional meetings is the need for the School Board to make decisions about programs before the consultants starts coming up with boundary scenarios.

It’s not just AAP. Many would like to see AP at every high school so people aren’t redistricted into IB schools against their will.

Also whether they're planning on moving 6th grade to MS/SS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it says a lot that this thread ended up just being about Langley when there are, what, 2 dozen high schools in the area?

Can we stop talking about this school and the republican parents association? Can we move on to other topics now?

I would like to talk about getting rid of AAP at the middle school level. It's completely unnecessary and redundant and a huge waste of money.

Something that will come up repeatedly in the regional meetings is the need for the School Board to make decisions about programs before the consultants starts coming up with boundary scenarios.

It’s not just AAP. Many would like to see AP at every high school so people aren’t redistricted into IB schools against their will.

Also whether they're planning on moving 6th grade to MS/SS.

This idea is so stupid, I can't believe they are even entertaining it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it says a lot that this thread ended up just being about Langley when there are, what, 2 dozen high schools in the area?

Can we stop talking about this school and the republican parents association? Can we move on to other topics now?

I would like to talk about getting rid of AAP at the middle school level. It's completely unnecessary and redundant and a huge waste of money.

Something that will come up repeatedly in the regional meetings is the need for the School Board to make decisions about programs before the consultants starts coming up with boundary scenarios.

It’s not just AAP. Many would like to see AP at every high school so people aren’t redistricted into IB schools against their will.

Also whether they're planning on moving 6th grade to MS/SS.

I can picture it-they will build the supposedly dangerous trailers for the entire 6th grade of a middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

Actually, it is true that HHS scores are good if you factor for SES.

So you think it is acceptable to have lower standards for kids depending on their family household income? This is exactly why this equity push by the school board is destructive. The SB has no plan to enhance academic performance for Herndon. They are just shuffling around students to hide gaps in academic performance. They have no plan to help underperforming schools and they don't care about actually educating students.

[Anonymous]

I’m not seeing much new content on this thread, just the same Langley posters repeating the same grievances and then demanding every night that they have the last word.

Maybe come back when you actually have some new ideas or information to share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not seeing much new content on this thread, just the same Langley posters repeating the same grievances and then demanding every night that they have the last word.

Maybe come back when you actually have some new ideas or information to share.

You could also just ignore the thread, right? It’s not all about catering to you.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

I said most people would be indifferent or happy if Langley’s boundaries are changed. Indifferent = not caring.

Unfortunately for Great Falls, it appears some of those in the latter camp are School Board members, and they may well steamroll the Langley crowd, whose local influence has waned. Calling them “psycho obsessives” when they see themselves just doing their jobs won’t help you much either.

Can't wait for karma to catch up with you.

This whole “karma” thing is stupid. Getting redistricted to a different high school happens. It isn’t divine retribution.

I think the entire point of the school board saying this hasn’t been done for 40 years is that it doesn’t “just happen” here very often nor should it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not seeing much new content on this thread, just the same Langley posters repeating the same grievances and then demanding every night that they have the last word.

Maybe come back when you actually have some new ideas or information to share.

You could also just ignore the thread, right? It’s not all about catering to you.

I’m interested in the topic, just not seeing the same complaints over and over again from the same handful of Langley posters.

We get it - you don’t want to be redistricted to Herndon; it could only ever happen as part of an “equity push” to “stick it” to Great Falls; and you might just have to pick up all your marbles and leave the county now.

Nothing you haven’t said dozens of times before.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

I said most people would be indifferent or happy if Langley’s boundaries are changed. Indifferent = not caring.

Unfortunately for Great Falls, it appears some of those in the latter camp are School Board members, and they may well steamroll the Langley crowd, whose local influence has waned. Calling them “psycho obsessives” when they see themselves just doing their jobs won’t help you much either.

Can't wait for karma to catch up with you.

This whole “karma” thing is stupid. Getting redistricted to a different high school happens. It isn’t divine retribution.

I think the entire point of the school board saying this hasn’t been done for 40 years is that it doesn’t “just happen” here very often nor should it.

I think the entire point of saying there hasn’t been a county-wide review in 40 years is to suggest it’s overdue. But it begs the question as to what’s changed over the past 40 years (a lot) and why they had abandoned the county-wide approach (maybe FCPS got so big it just wasn’t considered feasible any longer).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

I said most people would be indifferent or happy if Langley’s boundaries are changed. Indifferent = not caring.

Unfortunately for Great Falls, it appears some of those in the latter camp are School Board members, and they may well steamroll the Langley crowd, whose local influence has waned. Calling them “psycho obsessives” when they see themselves just doing their jobs won’t help you much either.

Can't wait for karma to catch up with you.

This whole “karma” thing is stupid. Getting redistricted to a different high school happens. It isn’t divine retribution.

I think the entire point of the school board saying this hasn’t been done for 40 years is that it doesn’t “just happen” here very often nor should it.

I think the entire point of saying there hasn’t been a county-wide review in 40 years is to suggest it’s overdue. But it begs the question as to what’s changed over the past 40 years (a lot) and why they had abandoned the county-wide approach (maybe FCPS got so big it just wasn’t considered feasible any longer).

Or they want to make sure all schools are accredited. The issue is zero transparency leads to conjecture. If the board can read the room at all, they should back off any kind of equity platform as they are arguing against federal policy and the effects of the federal government on the area.

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I do find much of the rhetoric associated with a particular part of the county pretty unique in its nastiness. Listen, I'm a WSHS parent that doesn't want to be redistricted. I'll make my voice and concerns heard in the appropriate forums, and simultaneously keep building up my savings in case I need to vote with my feet.
Don't understand why people on here are fighting with each other. Hey, do what is best for your own kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

I said most people would be indifferent or happy if Langley’s boundaries are changed. Indifferent = not caring.

Unfortunately for Great Falls, it appears some of those in the latter camp are School Board members, and they may well steamroll the Langley crowd, whose local influence has waned. Calling them “psycho obsessives” when they see themselves just doing their jobs won’t help you much either.

Can't wait for karma to catch up with you.

This whole “karma” thing is stupid. Getting redistricted to a different high school happens. It isn’t divine retribution.

I think the entire point of the school board saying this hasn’t been done for 40 years is that it doesn’t “just happen” here very often nor should it.

I think the entire point of saying there hasn’t been a county-wide review in 40 years is to suggest it’s overdue. But it begs the question as to what’s changed over the past 40 years (a lot) and why they had abandoned the county-wide approach (maybe FCPS got so big it just wasn’t considered feasible any longer).

Or they want to make sure all schools are accredited. The issue is zero transparency leads to conjecture. If the board can read the room at all, they should back off any kind of equity platform as they are arguing against federal policy and the effects of the federal government on the area.

That is still a symptom of a failed school. This doesn’t help the underperforming kids, it just hides the problem. The school system should use our children as pawns in their game to pursue failed educational policies. They are failing the kids at Herndon High School they are completely unwilling to take responsibility for their failures. They are actively trying to hide the problem and avoid responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do find much of the rhetoric associated with a particular part of the county pretty unique in its nastiness. Listen, I'm a WSHS parent that doesn't want to be redistricted. I'll make my voice and concerns heard in the appropriate forums, and simultaneously keep building up my savings in case I need to vote with my feet.
Don't understand why people on here are fighting with each other. Hey, do what is best for your own kids.

I find people who say “screw you” To an entire party of the county particularly vile.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not seeing much new content on this thread, just the same Langley posters repeating the same grievances and then demanding every night that they have the last word.

Maybe come back when you actually have some new ideas or information to share.

You could also just ignore the thread, right? It’s not all about catering to you.

I’m interested in the topic, just not seeing the same complaints over and over again from the same handful of Langley posters.

We get it - you don’t want to be redistricted to Herndon; it could only ever happen as part of an “equity push” to “stick it” to Great Falls; and you might just have to pick up all your marbles and leave the county now.

Nothing you haven’t said dozens of times before.

Ironic. Now who keeps repeating herself?