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Anonymous wrote:Agree with other posters - go to practices and games for any of the top teams in the area and make your decisions. There have been other threads on BSC Coaches so worth reading, but take anything with a grain of salt. When I read these threads, I assume that for any club. And know that every team, the kids, the parent dynamics, coach dynamics can vary year to year. One thing that was mentioned in other threads by seemingly different people (though one never knows), was that DG is a different type of coach this year to his teams. There seems to be a backstory to that.

We have a DD that plays for DG and given the reputation, I was on very high alert trying to observe closely. But, I also knew adults who played for him and he had a big impact on their life (beyond soccer). I knew parents of kids - who were not star players - who talked about him years later in a positive fashion. So while on alert, kept an open mind. Maybe its the kinder and gentler DG (as been alluded by others), but its been a very good experience without real drama. I can see that he is invested closely in the team and really understands my kid - not just how they play on the field, but what works for them. She is a strong player that works hard, but she can be very hard on herself. He has worked on this with her, one on one and I see a happier kid - who is more confident all around, not just soccer. For his teams, he has does extra practices, tried to find extra games when things keep getting cancelled. I would also say, while he is concise/minimal in words, he has been empathetic - when things outside their control have been unfair. (Common right now to kids in covid). In covid times, he has been a consistent for the kids . I haven't seen any drama - no roller coasters around practices, none of that stuff and I have seen a lot in this with other coaches. Is he perfect in everything he says - no. Does he take time to explain afterwards, yes - a lot. Does he expect a lot - yes. Is he clear in expectations - yes. If your kid isn't willing to put in extra time /work for ECNL level, is it something to try lightly - likely not - which is fine.

Knowing a lot of coaches in travel / MS / HS, on the spectrum of coaches, the "current" DG is far on the better side of dealing with kids. I have also seen the "nice" coaches, be super cruel. Of the "positive coaching" marketing, be anything but.

What is evident is that he works for a particular style of player. Lots of coaches are that way. However, the best coaches can coach and teach to all personality styles of players. For every, "he was great for my kid" comment he also has lost a a talented player because of his methods.

Time away usually softens memories but I would say that those players are probably closer to Stockholm Syndrome than truly admiring him.

What I have witnessed him do there is no place for it in a professional work environment and certainly not with kids. We tend to think that sports require humiliation to evoke the most out of players and we let coaches say and do things to our kids that we would NEVER accept as adults or even of teachers.

He is at Bethesda because he gets results in the Win Loss column and sadly, that is all parents care about. They will suffer the fool and let him scream at their kid simply because of wins and other clubs are to inconvenient to join.

I'ver rarely seen someone so out of touch with perspective as DG.

I guess I can say the same for you - quite out of touch with perspective. My child plays for his ECNL team at BSC so I know first hand that DG is a wonderful, talented, AND extremely compassionate coach. He doesn’t suffer foolish behavior or laziness. He sets expectations high and wants follow through. Does he yell at games? Sure does during the game. Afterwards, he is very specific about errors that were made and takes great effort to correct those errors during practice. Once your kid knows him and his style, s/he will realize it’s not personal and they are expected to work when playing for him. He wants nothing less. I am soo happy that I no longer have to coach my kid, I can leave it to him. As with work places and social circles, it may not be your cup of tea - but don’t disparage someone’s character because of a coaching style you don’t prefer. He is actually a very, very nice person and cares greatly for each of his players as evidenced by the number of players that he coached at a young age that bring their kids to play for him.

It is never professional. Sorry that you are to scared of your DDs position on the team to demand professionalism from your coach. But what is really sad is that your DD now believes that her coaches behavior is both acceptable and should be expected.

Imagine the low self esteem one must have to make a living yelling at 12 year old girls and the self esteem of the parents to let him get away with it for so long.

Excuses, excuses. You can create an excuse for just about anything in life. Actually - not scared at all because my kid puts in the work - oh and has been offered spots on other ECNL teams in the area. She likes DG so that’s why we stay. What I’m hearing is your kid must have gotten cut from DG team. If not, you seem to have some really strong opinions about a coach your kid has never played for? That’s very strange. You don’t like him or his style then don’t play for him. It’s that simple. Re: self esteem - my kid has a very high self esteem and knows a coach doesn’t define her. I’m sorry that you haven’t taught your DD that there will be challenges in life and how to deal with them. Challenging situations- like a strong coach - really sets them up for success. Again- if your kid puts in the work, you won’t have ANY issues with DG. It’s not that hard to understand.

I’m not the one making excuses, you are. You have EXCUSED his yelling at 12 year old girls. You haven’t denied it, you have excused it. I am not excusing his horrible behavior and treatment of kids.

I don’t have to make excuses because he doesn’t scream at kids like you are inferring. Again, for someone has only experienced him during a game and supposedly has no first hand experience of him as a coach, you sure seem to have him all figured out. Or maybe just a hidden axe to grind as a PP very astutely pointed out?

More scared parent excusing terrible behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you DG detractors be saying the same thing if this were a boys team? Sure, there’s a visceral reaction when you say “Older man screaming and belittling 12 year old little girls”, but would you have the same reaction if it were 12 year old boys? I don’t think so. Those of you so carelessly throwing around phrases like “abuser” and “Stockholm Syndrome” need to check your implicit gender biases, as well as your knowledge of what the cycle of abuse really means. If we want to achieve true gender equity in soccer and in the workplace, we need to stop having different standards and expectations for our “precious little girls” than we do for our “rough and tumble big boys”.

And, by the way, remember— there’s no such thing as bad press. All you haters are driving more and more attention to the Bethesda girls side. Thanks!

Actually I saw that same behavior on my DS's team and it wasn't great there either. But in the end the boys liked him and knew he was invested in them and in the team.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you DG detractors be saying the same thing if this were a boys team? Sure, there’s a visceral reaction when you say “Older man screaming and belittling 12 year old little girls”, but would you have the same reaction if it were 12 year old boys? I don’t think so. Those of you so carelessly throwing around phrases like “abuser” and “Stockholm Syndrome” need to check your implicit gender biases, as well as your knowledge of what the cycle of abuse really means. If we want to achieve true gender equity in soccer and in the workplace, we need to stop having different standards and expectations for our “precious little girls” than we do for our “rough and tumble big boys”.

And, by the way, remember— there’s no such thing as bad press. All you haters are driving more and more attention to the Bethesda girls side. Thanks!

Actually I saw that same behavior on my DS's team and it wasn't great there either. But in the end the boys liked him and knew he was invested in them and in the team.

LOL so says the parent. So most parents have no clue how the coach is viewed by the players. Parents do not go to practice and really do not care as long as their kids stays on the team. I have seen kids fears/hate the coach but always say in the correct thing when asked. Why because they know the coach will retaliate against them. Most parents never ask(or care) what their kids think of the coach or if the coach is abusive. They only care about what the coach thinks of their kid and the kids know this.

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Just be glad that your daughter never had to play for Brad Roos

[Anonymous]

Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Is this actually a scrimmage scoreline?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Is this actually a scrimmage scoreline?

Yes. However Loudoun Succer is nearing the year anniversary of their Spring heist and still actively working hard to avoid returning those fees. Creating champions 4 life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Is this actually a scrimmage scoreline?

Go ahead and act like it doesn't mean anything if it makes you feel better. I'm not big into friendly's/scrimmages either but still very telling to watch. You can paint it any way you want but the McLean 08s were completely dominated during the "scrimmage". I do understand that makes you feel better though. Perhaps don't throw stones and you won't get a reaction. That was you and a very few other parents. So let's just be clear about that.

Remember, you are the ones that started the bashing, not us. That said, it would probably be best if you shut your mouth about DG,KL or Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Winning trumps each and all issues of verbal child abuses. Carry on. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Winning trumps each and all issues of verbal child abuses. Carry on. LOL

Child Abuse? LOL. You know absolutely nothing. I think we are up to it seems 6 different parents at least who came on here to defend his style and yet you just keep ignoring? I can name at least 10 other coaches in the area that coach the same way as DG. One of which is even a director at a well known club in the DMV. A few others also coach in the area at ECNL and GA clubs. WE ALL KNOW SOME!!! Only difference is I don't have the audacity to call them out by name on a public soccer forum like this loser parent. Correct, I'm like the normal parent who if MY KID does not like a coach, we simply move on. It's not that hard. We don't come back cry like a baby about how some coach treated our DD. That is what losers do. Cry and make excuses.

Here is the bottom line. We get it. He's not the style you like for your child/children. YOUR OPINION, and that's exactly what it is, make no mistake, is that he is verbally abusive. Your opinion does not entitle you to bash a coach anonymously online on a very well known local soccer forum. Somebody brought up Yelp earlier saying it's no different. Actually Yelp is not anonymous. If you think it is like Yelp, please feel free to post your picture, first name and last initial. Obviously this tells me you certainly have an axe to grind. I don't care if your kid was cut, benched, or benched because you complained. Sorry you have to drive to McLean, Metro or TSJ. It also tells me you are small and petty and likely every other user on this site sees you in the same light as I do. Please stop making a fool of yourself and get down from what you think is your high horse. It's getting really old at this point.

[Anonymous]

Bethesda better than McLean?? What are you smoking pp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Winning trumps each and all issues of verbal child abuses. Carry on. LOL

Child Abuse? LOL. You know absolutely nothing. I think we are up to it seems 6 different parents at least who came on here to defend his style and yet you just keep ignoring? I can name at least 10 other coaches in the area that coach the same way as DG. One of which is even a director at a well known club in the DMV. A few others also coach in the area at ECNL and GA clubs. WE ALL KNOW SOME!!! Only difference is I don't have the audacity to call them out by name on a public soccer forum like this loser parent. Correct, I'm like the normal parent who if MY KID does not like a coach, we simply move on. It's not that hard. We don't come back cry like a baby about how some coach treated our DD. That is what losers do. Cry and make excuses.

Here is the bottom line. We get it. He's not the style you like for your child/children. YOUR OPINION, and that's exactly what it is, make no mistake, is that he is verbally abusive. Your opinion does not entitle you to bash a coach anonymously online on a very well known local soccer forum. Somebody brought up Yelp earlier saying it's no different. Actually Yelp is not anonymous. If you think it is like Yelp, please feel free to post your picture, first name and last initial. Obviously this tells me you certainly have an axe to grind. I don't care if your kid was cut, benched, or benched because you complained. Sorry you have to drive to McLean, Metro or TSJ. It also tells me you are small and petty and likely every other user on this site sees you in the same light as I do. Please stop making a fool of yourself and get down from what you think is your high horse. It's getting really old at this point.

Have fun witnessing child abuse! Carry on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda better than McLean?? What are you smoking pp?

On the 2008 level, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Winning trumps each and all issues of verbal child abuses. Carry on. LOL

Child Abuse? LOL. You know absolutely nothing. I think we are up to it seems 6 different parents at least who came on here to defend his style and yet you just keep ignoring? I can name at least 10 other coaches in the area that coach the same way as DG. One of which is even a director at a well known club in the DMV. A few others also coach in the area at ECNL and GA clubs. WE ALL KNOW SOME!!! Only difference is I don't have the audacity to call them out by name on a public soccer forum like this loser parent. Correct, I'm like the normal parent who if MY KID does not like a coach, we simply move on. It's not that hard. We don't come back cry like a baby about how some coach treated our DD. That is what losers do. Cry and make excuses.

Here is the bottom line. We get it. He's not the style you like for your child/children. YOUR OPINION, and that's exactly what it is, make no mistake, is that he is verbally abusive. Your opinion does not entitle you to bash a coach anonymously online on a very well known local soccer forum. Somebody brought up Yelp earlier saying it's no different. Actually Yelp is not anonymous. If you think it is like Yelp, please feel free to post your picture, first name and last initial. Obviously this tells me you certainly have an axe to grind. I don't care if your kid was cut, benched, or benched because you complained. Sorry you have to drive to McLean, Metro or TSJ. It also tells me you are small and petty and likely every other user on this site sees you in the same light as I do. Please stop making a fool of yourself and get down from what you think is your high horse. It's getting really old at this point.

Have fun witnessing child abuse! Carry on!

So no defense. Got it. Thanks for showing who you really are =)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooooo.....

Bethesda and McLean 08s played a friendly on Friday despite this thread.

Obviously there it has been pointed out that the talented Bethesda players left for McLean after last season...

Well, the results say differently. Bethesda controlled and out possessed McLean most of the game. Bethesda controlled the field for at least 75% of the game.

Final was:
Bethesda 4
McLean 2

In other words, despite Bethesda losing it's "best" players to McLean, it seems McLean has lost it's "best" players to other clubs in Virginia. One thing is for sure, nobody is leaving either club to go to Metro United.

Carry On!

Winning trumps each and all issues of verbal child abuses. Carry on. LOL

Child Abuse? LOL. You know absolutely nothing. I think we are up to it seems 6 different parents at least who came on here to defend his style and yet you just keep ignoring? I can name at least 10 other coaches in the area that coach the same way as DG. One of which is even a director at a well known club in the DMV. A few others also coach in the area at ECNL and GA clubs. WE ALL KNOW SOME!!! Only difference is I don't have the audacity to call them out by name on a public soccer forum like this loser parent. Correct, I'm like the normal parent who if MY KID does not like a coach, we simply move on. It's not that hard. We don't come back cry like a baby about how some coach treated our DD. That is what losers do. Cry and make excuses.

Here is the bottom line. We get it. He's not the style you like for your child/children. YOUR OPINION, and that's exactly what it is, make no mistake, is that he is verbally abusive. Your opinion does not entitle you to bash a coach anonymously online on a very well known local soccer forum. Somebody brought up Yelp earlier saying it's no different. Actually Yelp is not anonymous. If you think it is like Yelp, please feel free to post your picture, first name and last initial. Obviously this tells me you certainly have an axe to grind. I don't care if your kid was cut, benched, or benched because you complained. Sorry you have to drive to McLean, Metro or TSJ. It also tells me you are small and petty and likely every other user on this site sees you in the same light as I do. Please stop making a fool of yourself and get down from what you think is your high horse. It's getting really old at this point.

Have fun witnessing child abuse! Carry on!

So no defense. Got it. Thanks for showing who you really are =)

I don’t need a defense. Child abuse is child abuse.