Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift engaged!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

By Taylor’s own admission, mom is her therapist and matchmaker and according to many, Dad is still stepping in to solve her business and legal problems.

I don’t think her fans are remotely able to be objective about her. You “guys” are too stuck in Taylor worship to think that she isn’t solely responsible for her success. You are willing to insult people who point out inconsistencies in your theories and willing to defend capitalism to keep you from questioning your beliefs about her.

These people sound young or maybe they are bots. Either way, they sound quite taken w Taylor and very defensive and can’t look at the situation with objectivity.

It’s interesting to see how quickly some of them resort to insults and it’s like how the president acts when someone does not agree with him. He resorts to insults, which is a weak attempt at argument.

This is exactly what Trumpers do? Projection. It’s the haters that have been insulting calling her fiancé trash or how she doesn’t write her own music or is a puppet to the industry. Her fans defend her, yes but the insults and trashy posts come from you and hopefully you don’t have children because we know where they get the bullying behavior from

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

I’d like to see how much hockey parents invest in their hockey players. This return on investment is not remotely typical.

Not the point people were making but ok

The point is parents investing in their kids careers. It takes money to make money these days. I thought everyone knew this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

By Taylor’s own admission, mom is her therapist and matchmaker and according to many, Dad is still stepping in to solve her business and legal problems.

I don’t think her fans are remotely able to be objective about her. You “guys” are too stuck in Taylor worship to think that she isn’t solely responsible for her success. You are willing to insult people who point out inconsistencies in your theories and willing to defend capitalism to keep you from questioning your beliefs about her.

These people sound young or maybe they are bots. Either way, they sound quite taken w Taylor and very defensive and can’t look at the situation with objectivity.

It’s interesting to see how quickly some of them resort to insults and it’s like how the president acts when someone does not agree with him. He resorts to insults, which is a weak attempt at argument.

You aren’t objective. At least own your own biases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

By Taylor’s own admission, mom is her therapist and matchmaker and according to many, Dad is still stepping in to solve her business and legal problems.

I don’t think her fans are remotely able to be objective about her. You “guys” are too stuck in Taylor worship to think that she isn’t solely responsible for her success. You are willing to insult people who point out inconsistencies in your theories and willing to defend capitalism to keep you from questioning your beliefs about her.

These people sound young or maybe they are bots. Either way, they sound quite taken w Taylor and very defensive and can’t look at the situation with objectivity.

It’s interesting to see how quickly some of them resort to insults and it’s like how the president acts when someone does not agree with him. He resorts to insults, which is a weak attempt at argument.

You aren’t objective. At least own your own biases.

Exactly. She’s projecting all the way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

By Taylor’s own admission, mom is her therapist and matchmaker and according to many, Dad is still stepping in to solve her business and legal problems.

I don’t think her fans are remotely able to be objective about her. You “guys” are too stuck in Taylor worship to think that she isn’t solely responsible for her success. You are willing to insult people who point out inconsistencies in your theories and willing to defend capitalism to keep you from questioning your beliefs about her.

These people sound young or maybe they are bots. Either way, they sound quite taken w Taylor and very defensive and can’t look at the situation with objectivity.

It’s interesting to see how quickly some of them resort to insults and it’s like how the president acts when someone does not agree with him. He resorts to insults, which is a weak attempt at argument.

You aren’t objective. At least own your own biases.

Exactly. She’s projecting all the way

Could be the loser husband, you never know!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

I’d like to see how much hockey parents invest in their hockey players. This return on investment is not remotely typical.

Not the point people were making but ok

The point is parents investing in their kids careers. It takes money to make money these days. I thought everyone knew this?

Yes, but the point is people can invest in their kids and they do but they’re is only one Taylor so these fools that actually think she’s basically manufactured because of her dad’s involvement have lost their minds.
People invest in their kids constantly but they haven’t done what Taylor has

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

I’d like to see how much hockey parents invest in their hockey players. This return on investment is not remotely typical.

Not the point people were making but ok

The point is parents investing in their kids careers. It takes money to make money these days. I thought everyone knew this?

Yes, but the point is people can invest in their kids and they do but they’re is only one Taylor so these fools that actually think she’s basically manufactured because of her dad’s involvement have lost their minds.
People invest in their kids constantly but they haven’t done what Taylor has

So you agree with me that the ROI isn’t typical.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people get a great start in life and squander it. Or get a great start in life and do fine and have a respectful and happy life.

Taylor is exceptional. I’m not even that big of a fan and I’m highly annoyed at what I learned about her with the whole Blake lively fiasco where I think the two of them set up an innocent man for kicks, but come on. It’s hard to argue that she hasn’t been really successful. I’m sure her parents deserve some credit, but as others have said her overall stage presence, ability to connect with fans, songwriting ability and being so prolific etc., are why we’re here today arguing about her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people get a great start in life and squander it. Or get a great start in life and do fine and have a respectful and happy life.

Taylor is exceptional. I’m not even that big of a fan and I’m highly annoyed at what I learned about her with the whole Blake lively fiasco where I think the two of them set up an innocent man for kicks, but come on. It’s hard to argue that she hasn’t been really successful. I’m sure her parents deserve some credit, but as others have said her overall stage presence, ability to connect with fans, songwriting ability and being so prolific etc., are why we’re here today arguing about her.

She could have crashed and burned like Britney or Bieber but she didn’t. That she could pull off her tour for so long without so much of the drama says a lot about her whether you want to admit it or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

I’d like to see how much hockey parents invest in their hockey players. This return on investment is not remotely typical.

Not the point people were making but ok

The point is parents investing in their kids careers. It takes money to make money these days. I thought everyone knew this?

Yes, but the point is people can invest in their kids and they do but they’re is only one Taylor so these fools that actually think she’s basically manufactured because of her dad’s involvement have lost their minds.
People invest in their kids constantly but they haven’t done what Taylor has

So you agree with me that the ROI isn’t typical.

Iagree that Taylor’s success is because of Taylor. She works extremely hard as she literally wrote an album while on tour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

By Taylor’s own admission, mom is her therapist and matchmaker and according to many, Dad is still stepping in to solve her business and legal problems.

I don’t think her fans are remotely able to be objective about her. You “guys” are too stuck in Taylor worship to think that she isn’t solely responsible for her success. You are willing to insult people who point out inconsistencies in your theories and willing to defend capitalism to keep you from questioning your beliefs about her.

These people sound young or maybe they are bots. Either way, they sound quite taken w Taylor and very defensive and can’t look at the situation with objectivity.

It’s interesting to see how quickly some of them resort to insults and it’s like how the president acts when someone does not agree with him. He resorts to insults, which is a weak attempt at argument.

You aren’t objective. At least own your own biases.

Exactly. She’s projecting all the way

Could be the loser husband, you never know!

Loser husband because I know adults that have gone to her tour and her fan base grows with her. I can’t name 3 Taylor songs but I completely respect what she’s done, so it looks like I support women more than you do. Go figure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people get a great start in life and squander it. Or get a great start in life and do fine and have a respectful and happy life.

Taylor is exceptional. I’m not even that big of a fan and I’m highly annoyed at what I learned about her with the whole Blake lively fiasco where I think the two of them set up an innocent man for kicks, but come on. It’s hard to argue that she hasn’t been really successful. I’m sure her parents deserve some credit, but as others have said her overall stage presence, ability to connect with fans, songwriting ability and being so prolific etc., are why we’re here today arguing about her.

She could have crashed and burned like Britney or Bieber but she didn’t. That she could pull off her tour for so long without so much of the drama says a lot about her whether you want to admit it or not.

Exactly. She understands how to be a celebrity better than any celebrity I’ve ever seen and does amazing things with her platform

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people get a great start in life and squander it. Or get a great start in life and do fine and have a respectful and happy life.

Taylor is exceptional. I’m not even that big of a fan and I’m highly annoyed at what I learned about her with the whole Blake lively fiasco where I think the two of them set up an innocent man for kicks, but come on. It’s hard to argue that she hasn’t been really successful. I’m sure her parents deserve some credit, but as others have said her overall stage presence, ability to connect with fans, songwriting ability and being so prolific etc., are why we’re here today arguing about her.

Bingo. Well said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that her dad putting 1 million in her career when she was young means that her dad is responsible or controls her career.

Guys, my family was pretty wealthy growing up. My dad could’ve easily afforded to put $1 million toward a music career. Guess what. Even if he did, I seriously doubt I’d be worth 2 billion by age 36 and I seriously doubt I would’ve had the biggest tour we will ever see for generations.

There are millions and millions and millions of kids who don’t amount to any successful career in the industry yet have supportive parents who are trying to make their dreams come true and investing time and money in them. But it’s a one in 10 million chance that you end up with a long-term, lucrative and successful career, and for Taylor’s level of success it’s more like one in a billion.

By Taylor’s own admission, mom is her therapist and matchmaker and according to many, Dad is still stepping in to solve her business and legal problems.

I don’t think her fans are remotely able to be objective about her. You “guys” are too stuck in Taylor worship to think that she isn’t solely responsible for her success. You are willing to insult people who point out inconsistencies in your theories and willing to defend capitalism to keep you from questioning your beliefs about her.

These people sound young or maybe they are bots. Either way, they sound quite taken w Taylor and very defensive and can’t look at the situation with objectivity.

It’s interesting to see how quickly some of them resort to insults and it’s like how the president acts when someone does not agree with him. He resorts to insults, which is a weak attempt at argument.

This is exactly what Trumpers do? Projection. It’s the haters that have been insulting calling her fiancé trash or how she doesn’t write her own music or is a puppet to the industry. Her fans defend her, yes but the insults and trashy posts come from you and hopefully you don’t have children because we know where they get the bullying behavior from

She does not write songs entirely herself so it is true she does not write her own music.

Yes, you have proven my point by delivering more insults. They do nothing to me except show you are a bully who disagrees by insulting people.

Taylor brings out the worst in you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people get a great start in life and squander it. Or get a great start in life and do fine and have a respectful and happy life.

Taylor is exceptional. I’m not even that big of a fan and I’m highly annoyed at what I learned about her with the whole Blake lively fiasco where I think the two of them set up an innocent man for kicks, but come on. It’s hard to argue that she hasn’t been really successful. I’m sure her parents deserve some credit, but as others have said her overall stage presence, ability to connect with fans, songwriting ability and being so prolific etc., are why we’re here today arguing about her.

She could have crashed and burned like Britney or Bieber but she didn’t. That she could pull off her tour for so long without so much of the drama says a lot about her whether you want to admit it or not.

Taylor’s parents were rich before and well educated. Britney’s were not well educated and did not have much money.

Much easier to have money and make more of it.

Wasn’t Bieber groomed and possibly assaulted by adults? If so, I am not going to tear down a person treated like that.