Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

[Anonymous]

Wild ...goose... chase

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Anonymous wrote:This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

My take on that statement was that they can't find anything due to bad weather. They can only get near by air and it will take days to get there by boat. So there could be something there, they just cannot confirm it.

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Anonymous wrote:What if someone who knows about aviation and mayday was standing in the cockpit and told the pilot not to make a distress call or signal. Maybe someone was standing right there when the copilot said alright goodnight n had a gun or something else on his head and that's why he didn't say mayday

I still think it was the pilot taking one last suicidal joyride to the end of the world. If it were, say, Somali pirates hijacking the plane to Somalia, would they really care if the ACARS was on or off?

Uh yes, BC they wouldn't want to be tracked....

But the tracking part of ACARS wasn't disabled - that's where the satellite pings they've been using came from. What makes the most sense is the captain put the ACARS on standby

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

My take on that statement was that they can't find anything due to bad weather. They can only get near by air and it will take days to get there by boat. So there could be something there, they just cannot confirm it.

I wanted to add the actual news from CNN to support what I said for us junkies:

Following the Australian announcement, China said it had redirected some of its ships to the southern Indian Ocean. The closest of the ships was 2,300 nautical miles from the search area, Navy spokesman Liang Yang said in a statement on the Chinese navy's website.

In addition to the Australian and U.S. surveillance planes that flew over the area Thursday afternoon, two other planes were being dispatched to the region, including a New Zealand Air Force Orion and an Australian C-130 Hercules. That aircraft was tasked by Australian authorities to drop marker buoys in the area, Young said.

"The first thing they need to do is put eyes on the debris from one of the aircraft," said aviation expert Bill Waddock. The buoys will mark the place and transmit location data.

In addition to the Norwegian vehicle carrier Höegh St. Petersburg, which arrived Thursday afternoon, a second merchant ship and the Australian naval vessel HMAS Success were steaming to the site. The Success was "some days away," [u]Hishammuddin said.

The Malaysian navy has six ships with three helicopters heading to the southern Indian Ocean to take part in the search, a Malaysian government source said.

"Verification might take some time. It is very far and it will take some time to locate and verify the objects," the source said.

[Anonymous]

Hmm. I wonder. It seems like there are 3 or 4 countries spreading disinformation. Why? What is going on??!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

My take on that statement was that they can't find anything due to bad weather. They can only get near by air and it will take days to get there by boat. So there could be something there, they just cannot confirm it.

And those satellite pictures were taken 4 days ago. The debris has moved quite a bit since then. They've dropped buoys to try to figure out the currents.
The amount of effort being expended to find this plane is mind-boggling. And those poor families, can't imagine what they're going through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if someone who knows about aviation and mayday was standing in the cockpit and told the pilot not to make a distress call or signal. Maybe someone was standing right there when the copilot said alright goodnight n had a gun or something else on his head and that's why he didn't say mayday

I still think it was the pilot taking one last suicidal joyride to the end of the world. If it were, say, Somali pirates hijacking the plane to Somalia, would they really care if the ACARS was on or off?

Uh yes, BC they wouldn't want to be tracked....

But the tracking part of ACARS wasn't disabled - that's where the satellite pings they've been using came from. What makes the most sense is the captain put the ACARS on standby

Actually tracking WAS disabled. The pings you're referring to do not guage location but rather distance from the satellite.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if someone who knows about aviation and mayday was standing in the cockpit and told the pilot not to make a distress call or signal. Maybe someone was standing right there when the copilot said alright goodnight n had a gun or something else on his head and that's why he didn't say mayday

That makes more sense.

Ya how do we know he wasn't under duress when he uttered those words

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

My take on that statement was that they can't find anything due to bad weather. They can only get near by air and it will take days to get there by boat. So there could be something there, they just cannot confirm it.

I wanted to add the actual news from CNN to support what I said for us junkies:

Following the Australian announcement, China said it had redirected some of its ships to the southern Indian Ocean. The closest of the ships was 2,300 nautical miles from the search area, Navy spokesman Liang Yang said in a statement on the Chinese navy's website.

In addition to the Australian and U.S. surveillance planes that flew over the area Thursday afternoon, two other planes were being dispatched to the region, including a New Zealand Air Force Orion and an Australian C-130 Hercules. That aircraft was tasked by Australian authorities to drop marker buoys in the area, Young said.

"The first thing they need to do is put eyes on the debris from one of the aircraft," said aviation expert Bill Waddock. The buoys will mark the place and transmit location data.

In addition to the Norwegian vehicle carrier Höegh St. Petersburg, which arrived Thursday afternoon, a second merchant ship and the Australian naval vessel HMAS Success were steaming to the site. The Success was "some days away," [u]Hishammuddin said.

The Malaysian navy has six ships with three helicopters heading to the southern Indian Ocean to take part in the search, a Malaysian government source said.

"Verification might take some time. It is very far and it will take some time to locate and verify the objects," the source said.

I don't get why you bolded "The Success was some days away." Because it doesn't imply, success as in achievement; "Success" is the name of the ship. And the Norwegian ship is there already, and going to resume searching soon.

PP what were you trying to get at?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

My take on that statement was that they can't find anything due to bad weather. They can only get near by air and it will take days to get there by boat. So there could be something there, they just cannot confirm it.

+1. The area where they are searching is not only one of the most remote places in the entire world, but it is known for huge, rough waves. On top of that, there is a storm in the area. It's not like the Norwegian ship got there, and was able to immediately find the objects, which have drifted, that are partially beneath water, in huge waves, in a storm.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm. I wonder. It seems like there are 3 or 4 countries spreading disinformation. Why? What is going on??!!!

Dunno about that, BUT: the countries involved are certainly keeping secrets.

Take the "satalite photos" for example. See how crappy they are?

In the 1970s, reliable sources from the intelligence community indicated that U.S. spy satalites had enough resolution to read the numbers on a car license plate - from orbit. That was the 1970s. Does anyone really believe the resolution has decreased since then? No - logice dictates its only improved. Yet the photos shown are increadibly poor resolution. Logically, that was done intentionally so as not to tip off (technologically) a countries' actual capabilities to adversaries.

And Malaysia? They have repeatedly refused Interpol's offers of assistance. Flat out refused. That, and the many instances of incompetance, suggest they are not sharing information with anyone and are acting in a very paranoid manner (with little regard to the anquish of the families of the victims).

Russia? They probably have the 3rd best techology behind the U.S. and Western Europe as far as satalites, aircraft, assets. But they've contributed nothing to the effort. Zilch. Typical of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Matt Lauer interview today says it's obvious now: Intentional diversion, flying until fuel ran out.

Still makes no sense why someone would do that. If you are suicidal and want to take out a couple hundred people, I don't understand why you wouldn't fly it into a crowded space.

So is it a lone suicidal psycho or was there a larger reason why someone would want the people on that flight dead?

Wouldn't the theory of fire in cockpit, pilots knocked out, plane flies on by itself until runs out of fuel also a possibility in line with the new findings (if it is the plane)?

The fire theory doesn't make sense. A fire so severe that it knocked out the pilots before they could get oxygen masks on or make a distress call would not leave the plane in a condition that it could fly for 7 hours. And what fire is that severe and only knocks out different communication equipment that is spread about but not he equipment in between the communication devices (aka autopilot). And it would be extremely coincidental that this happened right at ATC hand-off and that the plane then flew a route where it was able to avoid all civilian radar. Autopilot doesn't do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is some serious weird shit. They can't find anything at the spot the Australians referenced.

My take on that statement was that they can't find anything due to bad weather. They can only get near by air and it will take days to get there by boat. So there could be something there, they just cannot confirm it.

+1. The area where they are searching is not only one of the most remote places in the entire world, but it is known for huge, rough waves. On top of that, there is a storm in the area. It's not like the Norwegian ship got there, and was able to immediately find the objects, which have drifted, that are partially beneath water, in huge waves, in a storm.

Really DEEP too. The location transponders on the flight data recorders ("black boxes") have - what - 15 to 20 days' of battery life left?

[Anonymous]

have not read most of the posts on these 107 pages so apologies if any of what I have written has already been regurgitated a million times

....the fact that the US Navy has all but halted their efforts tells you that the US Govt knows a lot more than they are letting on. They aren't saying what they know because of national security concerns...this coupled with Israel stepping up their national security and also looking at the fuel capacity, pilots' backgrounds and direction the plane turned toward tells us that the plane is very likely in Pakistan. NO BUENO ....