Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:Bring on your lawsuits Wootton - you may not move to Crown, but you sure as hell will be rezoned and that is the way it should be. You have no legal standing when MCPS says they rezoned some of you because of proximity.

Are you talking about closing Wootton or just rezoning some to crown? They’re completely different issues

Replacing the Wootton building with the Crown building, and rezoning some to Gaithersburg and RM.

Wow at first it’s Wootton is just moved there
Then it’s we’re just adding crown
Then it became we are adding fields road
Then we need to rezone Dufief and cold spring
Now it’s rezone some to Gaithersburg and RM
We knew it. It’s not just moving Wootton to crown. It’s closing Wootton and spread Wootton assets around.

Boo hoo.

This is about the dumbest thing in this entire thread 🤣.

This boo hoo person legitimately just proved why H is a school closure, and thus illegal. What a dumb ass. [/

Suppose it is a school closure. What haven't they done that would be required by law?

Everything?
They haven’t even given public notice of a formal closure.
They haven’t formally articulated why the closing is necessary.
There’s been no publically available impact study on educational impact on students, transportation studies, less disruptive solutions etc.
There’s also no formal meaningful community engagement on closure of Wootton (engagement on boundary study is a separate thing and doesn’t count).

Literally nothing has been done.

Look, ultimately, MCPS of course has the right to close any public school BUT that’s only if they follow the law.

Not PP, but just wanted to add—this type of action by MCPS should be alarming to everyone. You cannot close a school without following the law. Think of the precedent. If this can happen to Wootton, it can happen to any school. Damascus? Magruder… maybe they’ll close those schools next.

Of course they can close a school

The people on this thread are so dumb, I sometimes just cannot. Trolls be trolling. Not the PP but can you learn to read?

They literally said, and I quote “ Look, ultimately, MCPS of course has the right to close any public school BUT that’s only if they follow the law.”

Definitely just trolls and they keep repeating the same comments. They don’t care what people seriously wrote and they just keep repeating throughout pages and pages the same thing

What laws are there in closing a school? They aren’t closing it they are moving it. You have nothing of substance and cannot propose any reasonable solutions. Just complain.

Go back previous pages. This has been discussed again and again. It’s waste of time to even respond you troll

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Anonymous wrote:If option H is installed, the older town houses value will collapse. The new development near Wootton wok loose value.

There needs to be stronger protest from the community.

Not enough protest was going on when Horizon Hills, next to Wootton, was rezoned. Not environmental friendly either.

Wootton is a quieter bunch and less litigious than Churchill and Whitman. People keep throwing words around like elitist, when in reality Wootton is average in wealth for this county.

This is honestly is the most worked up I’ve ever seen the cluster, and yet people keep saying that they are “gangsters” for simply advocating for their kids. Hell I wish Wootton would be louder—maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with because we would’ve gotten renovations done years ago. Instead, we keep getting ignored and sidelined. And now instead of renovations, they want Wootton to take the fall and fill in a school that doesn’t have enough kids to attend. If Crown truly doesn’t have enough kids, why build it in the first place? Or maybe it does have enough kids if we did a reasonable boundary study… but god forbid we ever touch the almighty Potomac Churchill kids. No we can’t touch Wayside or Potomac ES, so let’s pick on Wootton and make them take the fall for our poor choices.

That said, looks like finally something woke the sleeping giants and the Wootton cluster is protesting and making noise!

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Anonymous wrote:If they do a total rezone just send Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill all to Crown. Dufief's main issue initially with A-D was that they were the only ones being pulled from the Wootton cluster and it was being done in a way that made no sense. If it's all three schools that are clearly closer to Crown than Wootton, have at it.

Also, it's becoming more and more obvious that Fallsmead/Lakewood care more about Wootton staying on the Parkway than keeping the cluster together. The North Potomac schools that don't really care about Option H have been quiet and going along with anti-H anyway, but now that it's clear no one cares about keeping them in the cluster hopefully they get more vocal about getting their kids into a safe school. Because this sudden change to "actually, we don't want repairs" doesn't help the kids.

Technically, Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill may be closer to Crown HS than to Wootton HS. If they split Wootton like this by rezoning, pull out some to Crown and take some in to Wootton, both Crown HS and Wootton HS exist may work. I am sure Dufief would be fine with this option since they are not alone.

I would say when they build so many houses all over everywhere in MoCo, rezoning is unavoidable.

Yeah, I was looking at the map, that seems to be the case. Seems like Wootton should be folded into the Rockville System(s) for the families that are actually in Rockville.

It is really disingenuous to take families in Rockville, who are paying to Rockville taxes for Rockville amenities and ship them 3 miles away to Gaithersburg.

Pretty simple, take the outer county residents who bought into car commuting, send them to Crown their only issue is likely demographics. They knew what they were signing up for before they bought when it comes to car commuting. Leave the ones in Rockville at Wootton, fix the school with the light attendance, then rebalance Wootton, Richard Montgomery and Rockville High School as necessary.

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Rockville high school isn’t even a part of the discussion. Also it’s no where near any of the neighborhoods in question.

Yes, it is all the affected neighborhoods would be in Rockville. You would need to rebalance the schools. RM is overcrowded and RHS is near capacity so it would make sense if they ended up back filling Wootton with a generally westward migration. RHS->RM->Wootton then a northward migration Wootton-> crown, but only in the outer county areas like Travilah.

Do you know how this works? Clearly not.

I like that idea though. The Wootton walkers are happy because they get the location and that’s clearly the only thing they care about. The more open-minded parts of the cluster go to the new school. Those are backfilled with overflow from RMHS and RHS who would be happy to go to Wootton (though it wouldn’t be “Wootton” anymore). Sounds like a win-win to me.

Wootton cannot have those students join their school as Wootton parents think they are inferior.

They have to pick a lane and they have already abandoned half their cluster who contributed to its reputation. You want the dumpy school on Wootton parkway? Then you risk boundaries being changed around you. But you can walk!

So you want the boundaries to make no geographical sense whatsoever? Clearly a fan of bussing kids. RM makes sense to redistrict some to Wootton. The neighborhoods that feed to RHS are too far away for it to make sense. They would pass two high schools on the way-which is the whole problem with this boundary study in the first place. If they just redraw all the boundaries when Crown opens they can make all the boundaries make more sense.

REading comprehension. The would be "rebalanced". Some of the RHS kids would end up at RM not Wootton.

It's like a Heap up operation in balanced trees, if you're not familiar with how computers work.

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Anonymous wrote:If they do a total rezone just send Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill all to Crown. Dufief's main issue initially with A-D was that they were the only ones being pulled from the Wootton cluster and it was being done in a way that made no sense. If it's all three schools that are clearly closer to Crown than Wootton, have at it.

Also, it's becoming more and more obvious that Fallsmead/Lakewood care more about Wootton staying on the Parkway than keeping the cluster together. The North Potomac schools that don't really care about Option H have been quiet and going along with anti-H anyway, but now that it's clear no one cares about keeping them in the cluster hopefully they get more vocal about getting their kids into a safe school. Because this sudden change to "actually, we don't want repairs" doesn't help the kids.

Technically, Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill may be closer to Crown HS than to Wootton HS. If they split Wootton like this by rezoning, pull out some to Crown and take some in to Wootton, both Crown HS and Wootton HS exist may work. I am sure Dufief would be fine with this option since they are not alone.

I would say when they build so many houses all over everywhere in MoCo, rezoning is unavoidable.

Yeah, I was looking at the map, that seems to be the case. Seems like Wootton should be folded into the Rockville System(s) for the families that are actually in Rockville.

It is really disingenuous to take families in Rockville, who are paying to Rockville taxes for Rockville amenities and ship them 3 miles away to Gaithersburg.

Pretty simple, take the outer county residents who bought into car commuting, send them to Crown their only issue is likely demographics. They knew what they were signing up for before they bought when it comes to car commuting. Leave the ones in Rockville at Wootton, fix the school with the light attendance, then rebalance Wootton, Richard Montgomery and Rockville High School as necessary.

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Rockville high school isn’t even a part of the discussion. Also it’s no where near any of the neighborhoods in question.

Yes, it is all the affected neighborhoods would be in Rockville. You would need to rebalance the schools. RM is overcrowded and RHS is near capacity so it would make sense if they ended up back filling Wootton with a generally westward migration. RHS->RM->Wootton then a northward migration Wootton-> crown, but only in the outer county areas like Travilah.

Do you know how this works? Clearly not.

I like that idea though. The Wootton walkers are happy because they get the location and that’s clearly the only thing they care about. The more open-minded parts of the cluster go to the new school. Those are backfilled with overflow from RMHS and RHS who would be happy to go to Wootton (though it wouldn’t be “Wootton” anymore). Sounds like a win-win to me.

Wootton cannot have those students join their school as Wootton parents think they are inferior.

They have to pick a lane and they have already abandoned half their cluster who contributed to its reputation. You want the dumpy school on Wootton parkway? Then you risk boundaries being changed around you. But you can walk!

So you want the boundaries to make no geographical sense whatsoever? Clearly a fan of bussing kids. RM makes sense to redistrict some to Wootton. The neighborhoods that feed to RHS are too far away for it to make sense. They would pass two high schools on the way-which is the whole problem with this boundary study in the first place. If they just redraw all the boundaries when Crown opens they can make all the boundaries make more sense.

REading comprehension. The would be "rebalanced". Some of the RHS kids would end up at RM not Wootton.

It's like a Heap up operation in balanced trees, if you're not familiar with how computers work.

Genuinely asking—what does your ideal rebalance look like? Send Dufief, Travilah, and Stone Mill to Crown.

Send Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill to Wootton.

Then what?

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Anonymous wrote:Bring on your lawsuits Wootton - you may not move to Crown, but you sure as hell will be rezoned and that is the way it should be. You have no legal standing when MCPS says they rezoned some of you because of proximity.

Are you talking about closing Wootton or just rezoning some to crown? They’re completely different issues

Replacing the Wootton building with the Crown building, and rezoning some to Gaithersburg and RM.

Wow at first it’s Wootton is just moved there
Then it’s we’re just adding crown
Then it became we are adding fields road
Then we need to rezone Dufief and cold spring
Now it’s rezone some to Gaithersburg and RM
We knew it. It’s not just moving Wootton to crown. It’s closing Wootton and spread Wootton assets around.

Boo hoo.

This is about the dumbest thing in this entire thread 🤣.

This boo hoo person legitimately just proved why H is a school closure, and thus illegal. What a dumb ass. [/

Suppose it is a school closure. What haven't they done that would be required by law?

Everything?
They haven’t even given public notice of a formal closure.
They haven’t formally articulated why the closing is necessary.
There’s been no publically available impact study on educational impact on students, transportation studies, less disruptive solutions etc.
There’s also no formal meaningful community engagement on closure of Wootton (engagement on boundary study is a separate thing and doesn’t count).

Literally nothing has been done.

Look, ultimately, MCPS of course has the right to close any public school BUT that’s only if they follow the law.

Not PP, but just wanted to add—this type of action by MCPS should be alarming to everyone. You cannot close a school without following the law. Think of the precedent. If this can happen to Wootton, it can happen to any school. Damascus? Magruder… maybe they’ll close those schools next.

Of course they can close a school

The people on this thread are so dumb, I sometimes just cannot. Trolls be trolling. Not the PP but can you learn to read?

They literally said, and I quote “ Look, ultimately, MCPS of course has the right to close any public school BUT that’s only if they follow the law.”

Definitely just trolls and they keep repeating the same comments. They don’t care what people seriously wrote and they just keep repeating throughout pages and pages the same thing

What laws are there in closing a school? They aren’t closing it they are moving it. You have nothing of substance and cannot propose any reasonable solutions. Just complain.

Go back previous pages. This has been discussed again and again. It’s waste of time to even respond you troll

Your best response is to call someone a troll. Grow up. You clearly cannot have an adult conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:If option H is installed, the older town houses value will collapse. The new development near Wootton wok loose value.

There needs to be stronger protest from the community.

Not enough protest was going on when Horizon Hills, next to Wootton, was rezoned. Not environmental friendly either.

Wootton is a quieter bunch and less litigious than Churchill and Whitman. People keep throwing words around like elitist, when in reality Wootton is average in wealth for this county.

This is honestly is the most worked up I’ve ever seen the cluster, and yet people keep saying that they are “gangsters” for simply advocating for their kids. Hell I wish Wootton would be louder—maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with because we would’ve gotten renovations done years ago. Instead, we keep getting ignored and sidelined. And now instead of renovations, they want Wootton to take the fall and fill in a school that doesn’t have enough kids to attend. If Crown truly doesn’t have enough kids, why build it in the first place? Or maybe it does have enough kids if we did a reasonable boundary study… but god forbid we ever touch the almighty Potomac Churchill kids. No we can’t touch Wayside or Potomac ES, so let’s pick on Wootton and make them take the fall for our poor choices.

That said, looks like finally something woke the sleeping giants and the Wootton cluster is protesting and making noise!

The issue is Wootton is saying their school is unsafe.

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Anonymous wrote:If they do a total rezone just send Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill all to Crown. Dufief's main issue initially with A-D was that they were the only ones being pulled from the Wootton cluster and it was being done in a way that made no sense. If it's all three schools that are clearly closer to Crown than Wootton, have at it.

Also, it's becoming more and more obvious that Fallsmead/Lakewood care more about Wootton staying on the Parkway than keeping the cluster together. The North Potomac schools that don't really care about Option H have been quiet and going along with anti-H anyway, but now that it's clear no one cares about keeping them in the cluster hopefully they get more vocal about getting their kids into a safe school. Because this sudden change to "actually, we don't want repairs" doesn't help the kids.

Technically, Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill may be closer to Crown HS than to Wootton HS. If they split Wootton like this by rezoning, pull out some to Crown and take some in to Wootton, both Crown HS and Wootton HS exist may work. I am sure Dufief would be fine with this option since they are not alone.

I would say when they build so many houses all over everywhere in MoCo, rezoning is unavoidable.

Yeah, I was looking at the map, that seems to be the case. Seems like Wootton should be folded into the Rockville System(s) for the families that are actually in Rockville.

It is really disingenuous to take families in Rockville, who are paying to Rockville taxes for Rockville amenities and ship them 3 miles away to Gaithersburg.

Pretty simple, take the outer county residents who bought into car commuting, send them to Crown their only issue is likely demographics. They knew what they were signing up for before they bought when it comes to car commuting. Leave the ones in Rockville at Wootton, fix the school with the light attendance, then rebalance Wootton, Richard Montgomery and Rockville High School as necessary.

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Rockville high school isn’t even a part of the discussion. Also it’s no where near any of the neighborhoods in question.

Yes, it is all the affected neighborhoods would be in Rockville. You would need to rebalance the schools. RM is overcrowded and RHS is near capacity so it would make sense if they ended up back filling Wootton with a generally westward migration. RHS->RM->Wootton then a northward migration Wootton-> crown, but only in the outer county areas like Travilah.

Do you know how this works? Clearly not.

I like that idea though. The Wootton walkers are happy because they get the location and that’s clearly the only thing they care about. The more open-minded parts of the cluster go to the new school. Those are backfilled with overflow from RMHS and RHS who would be happy to go to Wootton (though it wouldn’t be “Wootton” anymore). Sounds like a win-win to me.

Wootton cannot have those students join their school as Wootton parents think they are inferior.

They have to pick a lane and they have already abandoned half their cluster who contributed to its reputation. You want the dumpy school on Wootton parkway? Then you risk boundaries being changed around you. But you can walk!

So you want the boundaries to make no geographical sense whatsoever? Clearly a fan of bussing kids. RM makes sense to redistrict some to Wootton. The neighborhoods that feed to RHS are too far away for it to make sense. They would pass two high schools on the way-which is the whole problem with this boundary study in the first place. If they just redraw all the boundaries when Crown opens they can make all the boundaries make more sense.

REading comprehension. The would be "rebalanced". Some of the RHS kids would end up at RM not Wootton.

It's like a Heap up operation in balanced trees, if you're not familiar with how computers work.

Genuinely asking—what does your ideal rebalance look like? Send Dufief, Travilah, and Stone Mill to Crown.

Send Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill to Wootton.

Then what?

You want to split Wootton in half and send 3 out of 6 ES to crown? Falls groves and horizon hill is only a small ES which doesn’t fill up the seats of 3 ES and Falls grove can literally walk to crown.

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Anonymous wrote:Bring on your lawsuits Wootton - you may not move to Crown, but you sure as hell will be rezoned and that is the way it should be. You have no legal standing when MCPS says they rezoned some of you because of proximity.

Are you talking about closing Wootton or just rezoning some to crown? They’re completely different issues

Replacing the Wootton building with the Crown building, and rezoning some to Gaithersburg and RM.

Wow at first it’s Wootton is just moved there
Then it’s we’re just adding crown
Then it became we are adding fields road
Then we need to rezone Dufief and cold spring
Now it’s rezone some to Gaithersburg and RM
We knew it. It’s not just moving Wootton to crown. It’s closing Wootton and spread Wootton assets around.

Boo hoo.

This is about the dumbest thing in this entire thread 🤣.

This boo hoo person legitimately just proved why H is a school closure, and thus illegal. What a dumb ass. [/

Suppose it is a school closure. What haven't they done that would be required by law?

Everything?
They haven’t even given public notice of a formal closure.
They haven’t formally articulated why the closing is necessary.
There’s been no publically available impact study on educational impact on students, transportation studies, less disruptive solutions etc.
There’s also no formal meaningful community engagement on closure of Wootton (engagement on boundary study is a separate thing and doesn’t count).

Literally nothing has been done.

Look, ultimately, MCPS of course has the right to close any public school BUT that’s only if they follow the law.

Not PP, but just wanted to add—this type of action by MCPS should be alarming to everyone. You cannot close a school without following the law. Think of the precedent. If this can happen to Wootton, it can happen to any school. Damascus? Magruder… maybe they’ll close those schools next.

Of course they can close a school

The people on this thread are so dumb, I sometimes just cannot. Trolls be trolling. Not the PP but can you learn to read?

They literally said, and I quote “ Look, ultimately, MCPS of course has the right to close any public school BUT that’s only if they follow the law.”

Definitely just trolls and they keep repeating the same comments. They don’t care what people seriously wrote and they just keep repeating throughout pages and pages the same thing

What laws are there in closing a school? They aren’t closing it they are moving it. You have nothing of substance and cannot propose any reasonable solutions. Just complain.

Go back previous pages. This has been discussed again and again. It’s waste of time to even respond you troll

Your best response is to call someone a troll. Grow up. You clearly cannot have an adult conversation.

Nobody wants to have adult conversation with trolls who keep rehashing the same comments

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Anonymous wrote:If they do a total rezone just send Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill all to Crown. Dufief's main issue initially with A-D was that they were the only ones being pulled from the Wootton cluster and it was being done in a way that made no sense. If it's all three schools that are clearly closer to Crown than Wootton, have at it.

Also, it's becoming more and more obvious that Fallsmead/Lakewood care more about Wootton staying on the Parkway than keeping the cluster together. The North Potomac schools that don't really care about Option H have been quiet and going along with anti-H anyway, but now that it's clear no one cares about keeping them in the cluster hopefully they get more vocal about getting their kids into a safe school. Because this sudden change to "actually, we don't want repairs" doesn't help the kids.

Technically, Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill may be closer to Crown HS than to Wootton HS. If they split Wootton like this by rezoning, pull out some to Crown and take some in to Wootton, both Crown HS and Wootton HS exist may work. I am sure Dufief would be fine with this option since they are not alone.

I would say when they build so many houses all over everywhere in MoCo, rezoning is unavoidable.

Yeah, I was looking at the map, that seems to be the case. Seems like Wootton should be folded into the Rockville System(s) for the families that are actually in Rockville.

It is really disingenuous to take families in Rockville, who are paying to Rockville taxes for Rockville amenities and ship them 3 miles away to Gaithersburg.

Pretty simple, take the outer county residents who bought into car commuting, send them to Crown their only issue is likely demographics. They knew what they were signing up for before they bought when it comes to car commuting. Leave the ones in Rockville at Wootton, fix the school with the light attendance, then rebalance Wootton, Richard Montgomery and Rockville High School as necessary.

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Rockville high school isn’t even a part of the discussion. Also it’s no where near any of the neighborhoods in question.

Yes, it is all the affected neighborhoods would be in Rockville. You would need to rebalance the schools. RM is overcrowded and RHS is near capacity so it would make sense if they ended up back filling Wootton with a generally westward migration. RHS->RM->Wootton then a northward migration Wootton-> crown, but only in the outer county areas like Travilah.

Do you know how this works? Clearly not.

I like that idea though. The Wootton walkers are happy because they get the location and that’s clearly the only thing they care about. The more open-minded parts of the cluster go to the new school. Those are backfilled with overflow from RMHS and RHS who would be happy to go to Wootton (though it wouldn’t be “Wootton” anymore). Sounds like a win-win to me.

Wootton cannot have those students join their school as Wootton parents think they are inferior.

They have to pick a lane and they have already abandoned half their cluster who contributed to its reputation. You want the dumpy school on Wootton parkway? Then you risk boundaries being changed around you. But you can walk!

So you want the boundaries to make no geographical sense whatsoever? Clearly a fan of bussing kids. RM makes sense to redistrict some to Wootton. The neighborhoods that feed to RHS are too far away for it to make sense. They would pass two high schools on the way-which is the whole problem with this boundary study in the first place. If they just redraw all the boundaries when Crown opens they can make all the boundaries make more sense.

REading comprehension. The would be "rebalanced". Some of the RHS kids would end up at RM not Wootton.

It's like a Heap up operation in balanced trees, if you're not familiar with how computers work.

Genuinely asking—what does your ideal rebalance look like? Send Dufief, Travilah, and Stone Mill to Crown.

Send Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill to Wootton.

Then what?

I ran the numbers to balance out the RM 120% over utilization RM students would have to go both to Wootton and RHS:

+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| School | Original Enrollment | Students Added | Students Removed | New Enrollment |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| Richard Montgomery (RMHS) | 2,390 | 0 | 500 | 1,890 |
| Wootton HS | 1,821 | 250 | 0 | 2,071 |
| Rockville HS (RHS) | 1,500 | 250 | 0 | 1,750 |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| Capacity | 2,000 (RMHS) | - | - | - |
| | 2,050 (Wootton) | - | - | - |
| | 1,700 (RHS) | - | - | - |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| Utilization | 120% | - | - | 94.5% |
| | 88.8% | - | - | 101% |
| | 88.2% | - | - | 102.9% |
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Anonymous wrote:If they do a total rezone just send Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill all to Crown. Dufief's main issue initially with A-D was that they were the only ones being pulled from the Wootton cluster and it was being done in a way that made no sense. If it's all three schools that are clearly closer to Crown than Wootton, have at it.

Also, it's becoming more and more obvious that Fallsmead/Lakewood care more about Wootton staying on the Parkway than keeping the cluster together. The North Potomac schools that don't really care about Option H have been quiet and going along with anti-H anyway, but now that it's clear no one cares about keeping them in the cluster hopefully they get more vocal about getting their kids into a safe school. Because this sudden change to "actually, we don't want repairs" doesn't help the kids.

Technically, Dufief, Travilah and Stone Mill may be closer to Crown HS than to Wootton HS. If they split Wootton like this by rezoning, pull out some to Crown and take some in to Wootton, both Crown HS and Wootton HS exist may work. I am sure Dufief would be fine with this option since they are not alone.

I would say when they build so many houses all over everywhere in MoCo, rezoning is unavoidable.

Yeah, I was looking at the map, that seems to be the case. Seems like Wootton should be folded into the Rockville System(s) for the families that are actually in Rockville.

It is really disingenuous to take families in Rockville, who are paying to Rockville taxes for Rockville amenities and ship them 3 miles away to Gaithersburg.

Pretty simple, take the outer county residents who bought into car commuting, send them to Crown their only issue is likely demographics. They knew what they were signing up for before they bought when it comes to car commuting. Leave the ones in Rockville at Wootton, fix the school with the light attendance, then rebalance Wootton, Richard Montgomery and Rockville High School as necessary.

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Rockville high school isn’t even a part of the discussion. Also it’s no where near any of the neighborhoods in question.

Yes, it is all the affected neighborhoods would be in Rockville. You would need to rebalance the schools. RM is overcrowded and RHS is near capacity so it would make sense if they ended up back filling Wootton with a generally westward migration. RHS->RM->Wootton then a northward migration Wootton-> crown, but only in the outer county areas like Travilah.

Do you know how this works? Clearly not.

I like that idea though. The Wootton walkers are happy because they get the location and that’s clearly the only thing they care about. The more open-minded parts of the cluster go to the new school. Those are backfilled with overflow from RMHS and RHS who would be happy to go to Wootton (though it wouldn’t be “Wootton” anymore). Sounds like a win-win to me.

Wootton cannot have those students join their school as Wootton parents think they are inferior.

They have to pick a lane and they have already abandoned half their cluster who contributed to its reputation. You want the dumpy school on Wootton parkway? Then you risk boundaries being changed around you. But you can walk!

So you want the boundaries to make no geographical sense whatsoever? Clearly a fan of bussing kids. RM makes sense to redistrict some to Wootton. The neighborhoods that feed to RHS are too far away for it to make sense. They would pass two high schools on the way-which is the whole problem with this boundary study in the first place. If they just redraw all the boundaries when Crown opens they can make all the boundaries make more sense.

REading comprehension. The would be "rebalanced". Some of the RHS kids would end up at RM not Wootton.

It's like a Heap up operation in balanced trees, if you're not familiar with how computers work.

Genuinely asking—what does your ideal rebalance look like? Send Dufief, Travilah, and Stone Mill to Crown.

Send Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill to Wootton.

Then what?

I ran the numbers to balance out the RM 120% over utilization RM students would have to go both to Wootton and RHS:

+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| School | Original Enrollment | Students Added | Students Removed | New Enrollment |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| Richard Montgomery (RMHS) | 2,390 | 0 | 500 | 1,890 |
| Wootton HS | 1,821 | 250 | 0 | 2,071 |
| Rockville HS (RHS) | 1,500 | 250 | 0 | 1,750 |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| Capacity | 2,000 (RMHS) | - | - | - |
| | 2,050 (Wootton) | - | - | - |
| | 1,700 (RHS) | - | - | - |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| Utilization | 120% | - | - | 94.5% |
| | 88.8% | - | - | 101% |
| | 88.2% | - | - | 102.9% |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+----------------+

Ok so again, seriously asking, which es schools would you send where?

[Anonymous]

Yes - the Wootton cluster is finally getting worked up. Hopefully it is not too late.

With regard to your almighty Churchill comments: You are exactly right. Churchill is unified and they take pride in their school. They are defending Wayside and Potomac. Perhaps Wootton can stick together in the same way?

The only approach that will work is to fight to keep Wootton, fully as Wootton (that is what the almighty Churchill would do). You start compromising on the name, and jettisoning elementary schools and we are headed for closure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes - the Wootton cluster is finally getting worked up. Hopefully it is not too late.

With regard to your almighty Churchill comments: You are exactly right. Churchill is unified and they take pride in their school. They are defending Wayside and Potomac. Perhaps Wootton can stick together in the same way?

The only approach that will work is to fight to keep Wootton, fully as Wootton (that is what the almighty Churchill would do). You start compromising on the name, and jettisoning elementary schools and we are headed for closure.

These anonymous posters like to create chaos. Please don’t mind them. Wootton is united. It does want to keep the entire cluster together—that’s why parents are fighting so hard. The coalition we have built is just as much for our Dufief and Travilah families, as it is for any other family in the cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes - the Wootton cluster is finally getting worked up. Hopefully it is not too late.

With regard to your almighty Churchill comments: You are exactly right. Churchill is unified and they take pride in their school. They are defending Wayside and Potomac. Perhaps Wootton can stick together in the same way?

The only approach that will work is to fight to keep Wootton, fully as Wootton (that is what the almighty Churchill would do). You start compromising on the name, and jettisoning elementary schools and we are headed for closure.

Exactly. Wootton is Wootton because of all six ES. We can’t afford to lose any.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am totally against H. The only way to defeat H is to convince the BOE that Wootton should stay Wootton and that doing so is in the best interest of the Wootton Community and the MCPS. I am not hearing that, not even from Wootton parents. If the name does not matter, and the "W" school status does not matter and the historical legacy does not matter, then the argument against H becomes fragmented and weak. Some parents want things to hang on for a couple of years, so their kids can graduate, then they don't care, Others are ok with shipping some neighborhoods other than their own to other schools. This is not a unified message. If the BOE floated something like this for any of the other W schools you would see that school's community in unified, absolute opposition. The Wootton community is in an everyone for themselves mode where portions of what the BOE is doing, are ok, as long as it does not affect them directly. Travilah and Dufief have been going to Wootton for decades and people are tossing them around like excess baggage. So now the name does not matter, the legacy does not matter, the "W" school does not matter, and it is ok to jettison a couple of elementary schools from Wootton. And that is the starting point of our argument? Not very compelling.

Mt.Prospect which is down the road from QO and goes to Travilah is 4-5 years old - they haven't been going to Wootton for decades. If anything, MCPS should rezone them. Just because they paid a million and a half does not mean they get special treatment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am totally against H. The only way to defeat H is to convince the BOE that Wootton should stay Wootton and that doing so is in the best interest of the Wootton Community and the MCPS. I am not hearing that, not even from Wootton parents. If the name does not matter, and the "W" school status does not matter and the historical legacy does not matter, then the argument against H becomes fragmented and weak. Some parents want things to hang on for a couple of years, so their kids can graduate, then they don't care, Others are ok with shipping some neighborhoods other than their own to other schools. This is not a unified message. If the BOE floated something like this for any of the other W schools you would see that school's community in unified, absolute opposition. The Wootton community is in an everyone for themselves mode where portions of what the BOE is doing, are ok, as long as it does not affect them directly. Travilah and Dufief have been going to Wootton for decades and people are tossing them around like excess baggage. So now the name does not matter, the legacy does not matter, the "W" school does not matter, and it is ok to jettison a couple of elementary schools from Wootton. And that is the starting point of our argument? Not very compelling.

Mt.Prospect which is down the road from QO and goes to Travilah is 4-5 years old - they haven't been going to Wootton for decades. If anything, MCPS should rezone them. Just because they paid a million and a half does not mean they get special treatment.

Where would they go? QO and its countless portables are way overcapacity.