UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:I think the wife set this up. She wanted the guy out of the way so she could live her best life and hired someone who could make it look like this was about insurance.

How old are the children?


Look like teens based on the pics I saw.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy was a real slimeball.

https://fortune.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-lawsuits-social-media-reaction-motive/

It says the killer arrived just 10 minutes before Thompson appeared.
Sheer luck, huh?
Some of you are incredibly naive. Someone obviously told the killer when to arrive. Obviously.


I posted the time earlier. It was 5 min.

What was 5 min?


The gunman waited at the scene for 5 minutes before shooting.

Who else but Thompson himself would have known when shooter should appear?
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously! how did this guy know Thompson would come out at 6:45 ish. I mean the meeting was at 8 AM.

Why would Thompson come out this early?

This definitely was someone from the inside organization.

So at what time did they call of the meeting?

It wasn’t canceled. It had already begun and they cut it off in the middle of the earnings call shortly after the shooting saying it was due to a medical situation.

I don’t know how many times people need to hear this. I’m not directing this to PP but to the many people who keep commenting how did he know where he was etc. etc. This was a regularly scheduled quarterly earnings report. The date the time all of it is known in advance and widely publicized across multiple news sites and countless apps There was nothing secret or special about this meeting. Anyone can go to the company website and sign up for example to be on the call. You don’t have to be a shareholder to access any of the information. It’s all completely public. Go to the earnings whisperer website or download the app QARTR for example and you will see all of the earnings calls scheduled for a given date.


You’re not that smart. HTH did this guy know where this guy was entering 5 minutes before he did? He wasn’t waiting, so you should get your facts straight. Nobody can know this unless someone was detailing his movements to the killer.


This is obnoxious. There are other possibilities beyond an accomplice. Here are a few:

1. He got lucky. He knew the victim would be leaving at some point prior to 8 (or whatever time the event began), so he got there early and got lucky when the victim left the hotel early.

2. He had prior knowledge of the victim's routine. For example, he knew that the victim would go and get coffee an hour or so before a big meeting.

3. He had access to visual surveillance of the victim, either by accessing hotel security cameras or by some other means.

I'm not saying he didn't have an accomplice, but your attitude that there is absolutely no other possibility is foolish.


You think killers get lucky like that? It would be one thing if he was waiting 1 hour or more.

The facts are he was going early to set up the meeting. There was no routine. It was a complete one off.

Your theories are not believable at all.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously! how did this guy know Thompson would come out at 6:45 ish. I mean the meeting was at 8 AM.

Why would Thompson come out this early?

This definitely was someone from the inside organization.

So at what time did they call of the meeting?

It wasn’t canceled. It had already begun and they cut it off in the middle of the earnings call shortly after the shooting saying it was due to a medical situation.

I don’t know how many times people need to hear this. I’m not directing this to PP but to the many people who keep commenting how did he know where he was etc. etc. This was a regularly scheduled quarterly earnings report. The date the time all of it is known in advance and widely publicized across multiple news sites and countless apps There was nothing secret or special about this meeting. Anyone can go to the company website and sign up for example to be on the call. You don’t have to be a shareholder to access any of the information. It’s all completely public. Go to the earnings whisperer website or download the app QARTR for example and you will see all of the earnings calls scheduled for a given date.


You’re not that smart. HTH did this guy know where this guy was entering 5 minutes before he did? He wasn’t waiting, so you should get your facts straight. Nobody can know this unless someone was detailing his movements to the killer.


This is obnoxious. There are other possibilities beyond an accomplice. Here are a few:

1. He got lucky. He knew the victim would be leaving at some point prior to 8 (or whatever time the event began), so he got there early and got lucky when the victim left the hotel early.

2. He had prior knowledge of the victim's routine. For example, he knew that the victim would go and get coffee an hour or so before a big meeting.

3. He had access to visual surveillance of the victim, either by accessing hotel security cameras or by some other means.

I'm not saying he didn't have an accomplice, but your attitude that there is absolutely no other possibility is foolish.


You think killers get lucky like that? It would be one thing if he was waiting 1 hour or more.

The facts are he was going early to set up the meeting. There was no routine. It was a complete one off.

Your theories are not believable at all.


Yeah yeah you're a real Eliot Ness.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:The shooter waited 5 minutes in his location, not feasible on his own. Nobody gets that lucky.


Ding, Ding, Ding!!
DCUM can’t handle it may have been suicide by hired gunman, huh?


I saw two LE analysts, one FBI and one USMS, on TV this morning and they were both pretty adamant the shooter is not a professional.


Geee, shocking

I said that the very first time I saw the video. A trained shooter isn’t going to use an untested gun+suppressor combination. He was expecting that pistol to function, and it didn’t. Repeatedly. He had to cycle it by hand each time to get it to fire. So clearly he’d never practiced with that gun/suppressor even once, because had he, he would’ve learned then that it didn’t work. A professional killer wouldn’t take a chance like that. They would use something previously tested, with 100% reliability.



In other words, these LE analysts on TV are about as perceptive and knowledgeable as me, a guy who flies airplanes for living.


That gun has to be cycled after every shot, just like a standard shotgun. It's actually a cool gun, based off of a WW2 pistol. The design + screw on suppressor makes it quiet, relative to a normal pistol. I had no idea either until I searched for the gun on YouTube.


I'm interested in this. I deal with a lot of gun crimes as part of my job and I'm struggling to understand why anyone would choose this kind of gun? What's the advantage?
Why not get a 9mm Glock like every other criminal? It seems like it dramatically increases the chance of getting caught.


Just a wild guess, but possible something to do with purchasing and/tracing of the gun. If this is a WWII gun or even a WWII inspired gun, it may have been purchased a long time ago before modern tracking of gun purchases was in place, probably not something he personally owned but even so, his name wouldn’t be tied to it


It's not a Welrod or clone of one. He ran the slide, not operated a bolt.


Good to know. Lots of wild reporting/speculation in this one.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.


That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.


That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day


I mean here is just one. https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/jury-convicts-doctor-scheme-perform-unnecessary-surgeries-women

I know you probably think docs are special. They aren’t. They are just people. There are good and bad amongst them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously! how did this guy know Thompson would come out at 6:45 ish. I mean the meeting was at 8 AM.

Why would Thompson come out this early?

This definitely was someone from the inside organization.

So at what time did they call of the meeting?

It wasn’t canceled. It had already begun and they cut it off in the middle of the earnings call shortly after the shooting saying it was due to a medical situation.

I don’t know how many times people need to hear this. I’m not directing this to PP but to the many people who keep commenting how did he know where he was etc. etc. This was a regularly scheduled quarterly earnings report. The date the time all of it is known in advance and widely publicized across multiple news sites and countless apps There was nothing secret or special about this meeting. Anyone can go to the company website and sign up for example to be on the call. You don’t have to be a shareholder to access any of the information. It’s all completely public. Go to the earnings whisperer website or download the app QARTR for example and you will see all of the earnings calls scheduled for a given date.


You’re not that smart. HTH did this guy know where this guy was entering 5 minutes before he did? He wasn’t waiting, so you should get your facts straight. Nobody can know this unless someone was detailing his movements to the killer.


This is obnoxious. There are other possibilities beyond an accomplice. Here are a few:

1. He got lucky. He knew the victim would be leaving at some point prior to 8 (or whatever time the event began), so he got there early and got lucky when the victim left the hotel early.

2. He had prior knowledge of the victim's routine. For example, he knew that the victim would go and get coffee an hour or so before a big meeting.

3. He had access to visual surveillance of the victim, either by accessing hotel security cameras or by some other means.

I'm not saying he didn't have an accomplice, but your attitude that there is absolutely no other possibility is foolish.


You think killers get lucky like that? It would be one thing if he was waiting 1 hour or more.

The facts are he was going early to set up the meeting. There was no routine. It was a complete one off.

Your theories are not believable at all.


Yeah yeah you're a real Eliot Ness.


Pretty much. At least I know that it was the killer who got coffee, not the victim.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing the suspect totally forgot why he was wearing a mask just because he wanted to flirt with a woman. Wouldn't he immediately check if there was a camera when he arrived at the hostel?


lol

EGO
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


+1
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Way to go hostel counter worker smoozing him and directly asking him to take his mask down so she can "see him".

OK!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


It's easy to do for our dental. THey just match the average health plan quotes and we pay it. done.
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