UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


To add, I'd also like to know how many billable personnel (doctors and all) I am expected to receive invoices from, I hate the trickling in from outside providers. So shady.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.


That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day


Almost as funny as the lady saying that we should watch some fake Netflix show to learn about the inner workings of corporate America lmao
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Anonymous wrote:This guy was a real slimeball.

https://fortune.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-lawsuits-social-media-reaction-motive/

It says the killer arrived just 10 minutes before Thompson appeared.
Sheer luck, huh?
Some of you are incredibly naive. Someone obviously told the killer when to arrive. Obviously.


I posted the time earlier. It was 5 min.

What was 5 min?


The gunman waited at the scene for 5 minutes before shooting.

Who else but Thompson himself would have known when shooter should appear?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


Actually my primary care's office has an insurance submittal price and a negotiated cash/check at visit price. There are doctors that will negotiate if you want to pay cash.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


To add, I'd also like to know how many billable personnel (doctors and all) I am expected to receive invoices from, I hate the trickling in from outside providers. So shady.


agree

i especially loathe the Urgimeds who codify themselves as Specialists to double their copays and their charges. Health insurance does nothing.

One recently coded itself at time of billing as an ER.

such BS. And they are in BCBS as an in net work urgent care. such BS. BCBS lets them charge that, pays their share and then we are supposed to pay along and pay 2x or 3x!?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.


That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day


I mean here is just one. https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/jury-convicts-doctor-scheme-perform-unnecessary-surgeries-women

I know you probably think docs are special. They aren’t. They are just people. There are good and bad amongst them.


I like how you are trying to pretend that some bad doctors = insurance companies good!
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.


That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day


Amazing, right? No notes.
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Anonymous wrote:The shooter waited 5 minutes in his location, not feasible on his own. Nobody gets that lucky.


Ding, Ding, Ding!!
DCUM can’t handle it may have been suicide by hired gunman, huh?


I’m not convinced that it’s suicide, he could have made it easier to get away it with than NYC. Though, the shooter isn’t a lone wolf.

But, if the shooter isn’t found, it will be sweet justice for his life insurance to deny coverage based on any withdrawals, or instructions re security.

Also, I bet he didn’t think it would ruin his legacy in this way.

How can his life insurance deny coverage?


Deny, delay and defend

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


But you think it's going to work for you if insurance didn't exist?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


Actually my primary care's office has an insurance submittal price and a negotiated cash/check at visit price. There are doctors that will negotiate if you want to pay cash.


Now do a procedure-oriented specialist. Or an MRI.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


But you think it's going to work for you if insurance didn't exist?


You mean the way doctors operated for hundreds (thousands?) of years?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


But you think it's going to work for you if insurance didn't exist?


You mean the way doctors operated for hundreds (thousands?) of years?


Sure, go back to when barbers doubled as surgeons and see how well that works out for you.
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Anonymous wrote:The killer was probably from abroad. He’s long gone, back home.


He looks like he’s from the Levant - Israeli, Lebanese, or maybe Persian. Someone who has an interest in fomenting social unrest in the U.S.

I’d love to see video of how he was flirting with the girl at the desk. Absolutely reminds me of the forwardness of Israeli men; they had the gift of gab and are good flirts. Those teeth are not cheap - he’s had orthodontia.

Would also explain his familiarity with firearms. But it’s clear he did not have time to test the weapon, given that he was missing a critical piece to prevent the firearm from jamming with a suppressor. It’s not his gun.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?


Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?


Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.


Go for it. Say you're a cash patient and see what they want to charge you.


Well it doesn’t work as well within the confines of the existing insurance for profit system we have in place now, does it? Idiot.


Actually my primary care's office has an insurance submittal price and a negotiated cash/check at visit price. There are doctors that will negotiate if you want to pay cash.


Now do a procedure-oriented specialist. Or an MRI.


I had breast cancer and my insurance denied my doctor-ordered, standard of care yearly MRI. So I checked what the cash price would be. Sibley told me $6700. The whole thing was so disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the wife set this up. She wanted the guy out of the way so she could live her best life and hired someone who could make it look like this was about insurance.


How old are the children?


High school age I believe.
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