FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:Look it’s a done deal. They’re going to send those HV kids to Lewis. Stop complaining none of the school board members care what you say. Fixing Lewis is past due and if it means we have to sacrifice a few of your little white snowflakes to the cause, then so be it. They will be fine.

What a racist post

[Anonymous]

Honestly, if they try to change any more boundaries, but not the West Springfield/Lewis boundaries, the parents should sue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look it’s a done deal. They’re going to send those HV kids to Lewis. Stop complaining none of the school board members care what you say. Fixing Lewis is past due and if it means we have to sacrifice a few of your little white snowflakes to the cause, then so be it. They will be fine.

You keep posting this over and over

It does not make sense

If you were saying that Hunt Valley was getring rezoned to South County, your repeated identical post on every page might hold water.

But saying something over and over does not make it true

I’m keeping track of all the unhinged posts so when none of it comes to fruition we can all come back here and call them clowns.

Seriously all this talk about Lewis and nobody saying anything about West Potomac/Mount Vernon, which is a far more suspicious situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if they try to change any more boundaries, but not the West Springfield/Lewis boundaries, the parents should sue.

You are ridiculous on all fronts.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

That person is looking that the numbers for the current Sophomores and current Freshmen.

Your numbers are the correct numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look it’s a done deal. They’re going to send those HV kids to Lewis. Stop complaining none of the school board members care what you say. Fixing Lewis is past due and if it means we have to sacrifice a few of your little white snowflakes to the cause, then so be it. They will be fine.

You keep posting this over and over

It does not make sense

If you were saying that Hunt Valley was getring rezoned to South County, your repeated identical post on every page might hold water.

But saying something over and over does not make it true

I’m keeping track of all the unhinged posts so when none of it comes to fruition we can all come back here and call them clowns.

Seriously all this talk about Lewis and nobody saying anything about West Potomac/Mount Vernon, which is a far more suspicious situation.

Not the HV to Lewis poster, but that’s simply not true and an explanation was provided earlier as to why the West Springfield/Lewis situation is more pressing.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

I don't know how the numbers work out exactly, but WSHS picks up students returning from LB AAP and parents who don't want to pay for private HS. So those Irving numbers don't reflect the numbers that will be in each grade at WSHS. You could compare those Irving numbers to the last ten years to get a better idea of the trend.

There aren’t very many of those kids. Most of them went to Irving. There are 3 classes of aap 7th graders this year. Most of my kids friends went to Irving. So maybe they will get to 600- but it isn’t 130 kids.

Exactly.

And maybe 20 Catholuc school kids, fewer now that this rezoning plan has leaked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

I don't know how the numbers work out exactly, but WSHS picks up students returning from LB AAP and parents who don't want to pay for private HS. So those Irving numbers don't reflect the numbers that will be in each grade at WSHS. You could compare those Irving numbers to the last ten years to get a better idea of the trend.

There aren’t very many of those kids. Most of them went to Irving. There are 3 classes of aap 7th graders this year. Most of my kids friends went to Irving. So maybe they will get to 600- but it isn’t 130 kids.

Then it might be worthwhile to FOIA how FCPS is coming up with that 2900 number if five years.

Good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

I don't know how the numbers work out exactly, but WSHS picks up students returning from LB AAP and parents who don't want to pay for private HS. So those Irving numbers don't reflect the numbers that will be in each grade at WSHS. You could compare those Irving numbers to the last ten years to get a better idea of the trend.

There aren’t very many of those kids. Most of them went to Irving. There are 3 classes of aap 7th graders this year. Most of my kids friends went to Irving. So maybe they will get to 600- but it isn’t 130 kids.

Then it might be worthwhile to FOIA how FCPS is coming up with that 2900 number if five years.

Where is the number posted? Can you link to where you found it? My guess is it was pre pandemic.

I suspect they are also over estimating the number of military families that will transfer in with high school students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

I don't know how the numbers work out exactly, but WSHS picks up students returning from LB AAP and parents who don't want to pay for private HS. So those Irving numbers don't reflect the numbers that will be in each grade at WSHS. You could compare those Irving numbers to the last ten years to get a better idea of the trend.

There aren’t very many of those kids. Most of them went to Irving. There are 3 classes of aap 7th graders this year. Most of my kids friends went to Irving. So maybe they will get to 600- but it isn’t 130 kids.

Then it might be worthwhile to FOIA how FCPS is coming up with that 2900 number if five years.

Good idea.

Also what the true capacity of WSHS is because empty classrooms speak to more capacity. Especially when the kids can have off campus lunch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if they try to change any more boundaries, but not the West Springfield/Lewis boundaries, the parents should sue.

You are ridiculous on all fronts.

Not at all. There’s no situation in the county where there is a more glaring disparity between adjacent high schools so if they change other boundaries without adjusting these boundaries it will demonstrate the entire process is corrupt. Better to bring the entire process to a halt than cater to one group of parents at West Springfield while changing boundaries elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

I recognize that the current WSHS boundaries are relatively compact. However, the enrollment imbalance between WSHS and Lewis trumps that. We certainly shouldn't be allocating more money to expand WSHS again any time soon, and Lewis needs more students to thrive.

West Springfield has space to accomodate a few hundred more kids.

Right, so why the “overcapacity” talk? If there are extra classrooms, they can be used with kids in them.

The design capacity is 2505. It currently has 2725 students, so by definition it is overcapacity. Just the facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if they try to change any more boundaries, but not the West Springfield/Lewis boundaries, the parents should sue.

You are ridiculous on all fronts.

Not at all. There’s no situation in the county where there is a more glaring disparity between adjacent high schools so if they change other boundaries without adjusting these boundaries it will demonstrate the entire process is corrupt. Better to bring the entire process to a halt than cater to one group of parents at West Springfield while changing boundaries elsewhere.

Yes, bring the entire process to a halt. It has been done undercover anyway and should be halted.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

I recognize that the current WSHS boundaries are relatively compact. However, the enrollment imbalance between WSHS and Lewis trumps that. We certainly shouldn't be allocating more money to expand WSHS again any time soon, and Lewis needs more students to thrive.

West Springfield has space to accomodate a few hundred more kids.

Right, so why the “overcapacity” talk? If there are extra classrooms, they can be used with kids in them.

The design capacity is 2505. It currently has 2725 students, so by definition it is overcapacity. Just the facts.

Eh I have taught in schools at 135% capacity. We had trailers installed around 117%. They did redistrict eventually, but WSHS not even having trailers yet means you can fit a lot more kids and see what the projections are in a few years. This is more about “saving Lewis” than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:So because your kid benefit from the current arrangement, other kids should be fine dealing with the “hooligans” and other challenges associated with Lewis, simply because it’s inconvenient to your child to try and remedy the issues?

It’s the audacity for me…

No. The school board should figure out how to fix the problems at Lewis, Herndon, etc. without negatively impacting kids who are doing fine where they are. This plan of shuffling kids around so all schools are about even in terms of underperforming students doesn't benefit anyone.

Schools cannot fix the types of problems found at these schools. Only the federal government can fix the border. As a parent with kids in feeder schools to one of these, just know that it isn't going to get better the next couple of years. These kids have been coming all year and at this point, there are so many they simply speak their native language in class to each other only and are not attempting even attempting English.

This is so true. I substitute often in these schools, and the feeder elementaries as well. Groups of non-English speaking kids simply speak their native language (usually Spanish) in class and make no attempt to listen or try to speak English. This is entirely a Biden-made disaster and won't get better by simply shuffling kids around.
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