FCPS HS Boundary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look it’s a done deal. They’re going to send those HV kids to Lewis. Stop complaining none of the school board members care what you say. Fixing Lewis is past due and if it means we have to sacrifice a few of your little white snowflakes to the cause, then so be it. They will be fine.

Mic drop. NOW you can ask Jeff to close the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

I recognize that the current WSHS boundaries are relatively compact. However, the enrollment imbalance between WSHS and Lewis trumps that. We certainly shouldn't be allocating more money to expand WSHS again any time soon, and Lewis needs more students to thrive.

You WANT Lewis to have more kids, so advocate with the people there to not transfer.

If Lewis didn't have any student transfers, it would still have the lowest enrollment of any HS in the county.

Changing the school's name and the leadership program may have been well-intended but they didn't really do much for the school. Adding AP courses, which will curtail pupil placements, and adjusting the boundaries will have a bigger, more positive impact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look it’s a done deal. They’re going to send those HV kids to Lewis. Stop complaining none of the school board members care what you say. Fixing Lewis is past due and if it means we have to sacrifice a few of your little white snowflakes to the cause, then so be it. They will be fine.

Mic drop. NOW you can ask Jeff to close the thread.

But first I want the IP address

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems the obvious first step is to not allow transfers to the overcrowded schools or send those kids back to their base schools.

SB doesn’t have to try to balance schools out for equity. The world is not equal. Instead maybe put in more supports in those schools. Lewis will never be Langley. Herndon won’t be Langley.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

Then fix Lewis and shut off transfers out of Lewis before rezoning anyone.

Just shutting off the ability to transfer achools brings the Lewis enrollment to around 1700 students, a nice sized school.

Since most of the transfers out are high performing students, this will also help.

Start with the students who actually live in the Lewis zone.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If Lewis’s enrollment is going to fall that much in a span of only ~5 years, the conversation FCPS needs to be having is not how to prop up its enrollment, but how best to shut it down and consolidate with the other nearby HS. Especially as Edison is walking distance on the same road.

THIS^^^^

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

Agree.

I will add to this.

The only zoning that makes geographic sense and will have zero controversy, is to eliminate the Sangster split feeder, sending the entire school to Lake Braddock.

That will drop West Springfield enrollment by 150 or so students, with not a complaint by anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

I’d rather be at an overcapacity school. If you are angry stop the transfers out of Lewis, get kids from hayfield or Edison if they want to come. We dont’ want to be there.
Why doesn’t west Springfield have trailers like Woodson if the population growth is so out of control?

West Springfield still has plenty of classroom space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

Well there you go. Keep the LBSS transfers at LBSS for high school and don’t let the private school kids in. They can go to Lewis or LBSS.

There are not 100 Catholic school kids coming into West Springfield high school each year.

There are maybe 25 tops.

Angeles Academy will send 1 or 2 students.

St. Bernadette will send around a half dozen.

Holy Spirit will send 1 or 2 some years, but not all.

Nativity will send the most kids, maybe around 20 students.

At the most, there are around 2 dozen to 30 Catholic school students switching to public school in 9th grade.

Most attend Catholic High School.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

Well there you go. Keep the LBSS transfers at LBSS for high school and don’t let the private school kids in. They can go to Lewis or LBSS.

They have enough lawsuits on their hands without doing even more things that would trigger lawsuits.

They have the freedom to move anyone as long as it is less than 5%? Of the population according to their new guidelines. Buying a house in a school district doesn’t mean you get to attend that district. It would be pretty easy to allow the AAP kids to stay at Braddock.

15% according to the revised guidelines.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

I recognize that the current WSHS boundaries are relatively compact. However, the enrollment imbalance between WSHS and Lewis trumps that. We certainly shouldn't be allocating more money to expand WSHS again any time soon, and Lewis needs more students to thrive.

West Springfield has space to accomodate a few hundred more kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Lewis have all the AP and DE classes that West Springfield has available? Cause you can't just switch a couple hundred kids who have already started their high school courses to a school that doesn't provide the "next step" classes. And only grandfathering in seniors would mean this would affect a lot of students.

No, they do not.

They are IB, which is worthless.

And their AP srlections are sparse, due to IB.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

I recognize that the current WSHS boundaries are relatively compact. However, the enrollment imbalance between WSHS and Lewis trumps that. We certainly shouldn't be allocating more money to expand WSHS again any time soon, and Lewis needs more students to thrive.

West Springfield has space to accomodate a few hundred more kids.

Right, so why the “overcapacity” talk? If there are extra classrooms, they can be used with kids in them.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the projections for WS? I thought while this current cohort of HS kids was large, the current ES cohort was smaller than typical.

You are correct.

Once the current class of 2026 graduates, all the subsequent classes go down in size significantly.

2026 is well over 700 students. 2025 and 2024 are in the mkd to upper 600s.

Every class after 2026 is in the low 600s.

WSHS will self correct without a boundary adjustment once 2026 graduates, based on all the numbers in the middle school and elementary classes zoned for WSHS.

However, there are many out of zone kids attending WSHS usiing other addresses.

WSHS needs to do a residency check before sny rezoning occurs.

The current numbers at Irving don’t align with this. Nice try.

j

Yes they do current 8th grade is 601 current 7th is 571

So let's parse this. The current enrollment at Irving (1217 as of the start of the 2023-24 school year) is the second-highest enrollment at Irving of any year since 2014-15. In addition to those students, there are 117 Irving kids who transferred out to other schools this year, including over 100 to Lake Braddock, and students who may attend West Springfield after attending K-8 parochial schools.

In comparison, Lewis is projected to have 1423 students by 2028-29. So even if West Springfield only had 2600 kids in 2028, rather than the 2925 students that FCPS is now projecting, there would still be a huge disparity between the two schools in terms of enrollment and opportunities. There's no other combination in FCPS of nearby high schools where the current and projected contrast in enrollment and opportunities is so glaring.

If you know the area at all, though, you'd know it's just not that simple to redraw Irving/WSHS boundaries. The boundary is not weirdly gerrymandered to keep kids out of Lewis. Except for that one neighborhood south of the parkway, the boundary makes sense. The neighborhoods closest to Lewis, that sort of northeast section, walks to Irving and is very close to West Springfield. Easily bikeable and walkable. I guess Daventry could go back to Key/Lewis and the area south of the parkway to either Lewis or South County. And maybe something on the west side to LBSS if they could absorb some more kids. Look, we are at WSHS/Irving but we aren't in a zone that would move, we are literally right in the middle of the boundary, so I'm not trying to plead my personal case. But the West Springfield boundary largely makes sense as is. There is just a lot of housing, a good amount of "affordable for the area" apartments and town houses. It's compact and all has the same mixed culture, government-type worker, military family, vibe. I think it would be a shame to mess it up.

I recognize that the current WSHS boundaries are relatively compact. However, the enrollment imbalance between WSHS and Lewis trumps that. We certainly shouldn't be allocating more money to expand WSHS again any time soon, and Lewis needs more students to thrive.

You WANT Lewis to have more kids, so advocate with the people there to not transfer.

Exactly.

Start with the 230 kids zoned for Lewis who currently transfer to other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look it’s a done deal. They’re going to send those HV kids to Lewis. Stop complaining none of the school board members care what you say. Fixing Lewis is past due and if it means we have to sacrifice a few of your little white snowflakes to the cause, then so be it. They will be fine.

You keep posting this over and over

It does not make sense

If you were saying that Hunt Valley was getring rezoned to South County, your repeated identical post on every page might hold water.

But saying something over and over does not make it true