FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Chantilly / Centreville HS overcrowding could be alleviated by making them 10-12 and some western middle schools 7-9. That might help people avoid big, bad Herndon.

Thats a logistical non starter. 9th grade is high school.

9th grade is HS for magical reasons. It does not have to stay that way. In Fact some districts have had to change it for logistical reasons, sometimes temporarily. We have over capacity issues. We need solutions if the “haves” in certain districts won’t commingle with the “have nots.” I swear, we have a lot Sneetches around here. Many districts “have always” had 9th grade as part of HS. If we use that kind of logic, then maybe we should go back to grandpa’s generation when you were considered an adult at 16 and HS graduation was not a requirement.

Boundary changes don’t have to be entirely geographical. Especially since the priority on this site is property values not education. 7-9 grade schools could be a legit solution and is worth exploring.

Not in the realm of possibility. They are struggling enough already with the existing 6-8 vs 7-8 MS divide.

And secondary schools on top of that. How does 7-9 work, do AAP kids get kicked back to their home school for 9th?

Why not? Will AAP centers even survive?

No. AAP centers should be the first thing to go. Talk about an inequitable system, not to mention extra, unnecessary busing.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Of course not. But please note: it wasn't a Langley parent making these bizarre suggestions. Can we please end this ridiculous tangent?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

To push back on the narrative that you all have, there are tons of GS-14 families in Great Falls.

THANK YOU!!! So sick of all the bizarre narratives on this thread!
-signed, a fed family

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

Langley has a reputation for over the top snottiness all over the county.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

Wow. Right back at you.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

And thank you for showing us clearly the mindset of Herndon parents. You are just charming - I can't imagine why no one wants to be rezoned to Herndon. What a hate-filled person you are.
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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that of all the many many neighborhoods in the county. By far the angriest and loudest are the Herndon area parents zoned to Langley.

Herndon HS is fine. Its mid as far as FCPS schools go. Not the best, not the worst.

When someone has had the "best" school for their kids--and Langley is the richest school--equality with what everyone else is getting --feels like injustice.

Ah, there you are. As if we didn't already know what your agenda is. Mediocrity for ALL! "Equity"! I'm so glad my kids are almost done with FCPS.
DP

Will you finally shut up and go away then? That would be such a blessing for everyone (no doubt including many other Langley parents).

Likewise - are you the broken record poster? Move on. Take up knitting.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that of all the many many neighborhoods in the county. By far the angriest and loudest are the Herndon area parents zoned to Langley.

Herndon HS is fine. Its mid as far as FCPS schools go. Not the best, not the worst.

When someone has had the "best" school for their kids--and Langley is the richest school--equality with what everyone else is getting --feels like injustice.

Ah, there you are. As if we didn't already know what your agenda is. Mediocrity for ALL! "Equity"! I'm so glad my kids are almost done with FCPS.
DP

The funny thing is, HHS kids in the same SES as Langley kids score as well as them. It is in Langley’s interests to not parse and promote the data because it would show that their school actually isn’t special.

How many times have you repeated this? Could you possibly be more insecure?

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to see how moving Forestville kids will improve Herndon High School. Higher IQs, higher GPAs, higher incomes will not suddenly make the current Herndon students any better. Will the average test scorew go up? Probably, but that does not help my kids.

I do however think it is ridiculous that homes that are undeniably MUCH closer to Herndon, are zoned for Langley. If you paid more for your house, wirh a Herndon address and assumed your home would be zoned for Langley for eternity, I am sorry for you. .

It made sense when they changed the boundaries thirty years ago.

A new look might mean those houses go back.

I'm curious, how did it make sense (Herndon addresses going to langley) ? Did HHS not exist?

It existed and pre Aldrin opening the 3 C's wanted residences north of Route 7 to vacate Great Falls Elementary so they could stay and not go to Forestville. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1993/12/02/great-falls-war-is-over-but-healing-will-be-slow/25a22be7-b906-40a2-9c6d-ade1a812cd12/

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that of all the many many neighborhoods in the county. By far the angriest and loudest are the Herndon area parents zoned to Langley.

Herndon HS is fine. Its mid as far as FCPS schools go. Not the best, not the worst.

When someone has had the "best" school for their kids--and Langley is the richest school--equality with what everyone else is getting --feels like injustice.

Ah, there you are. As if we didn't already know what your agenda is. Mediocrity for ALL! "Equity"! I'm so glad my kids are almost done with FCPS.
DP

The funny thing is, HHS kids in the same SES as Langley kids score as well as them. It is in Langley’s interests to not parse and promote the data because it would show that their school actually isn’t special.

I thought you didn’t want us to join your school? You said “screw you” To the Forestville families. Make up your mind.

I don’t give two hoots about your kids scores, just not interested in your situation, despite you being all up in others’ business.

+ a million
So far, that poster has said Forestville should stay in "its hole"; Langley parents should stay in "their pen"; and she hates all of the GF families. It's actually pretty amusing to read her screeds. I can visualize a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth nutcase. I hope the SB gets a load of the hatred coming from her direction (Herndon). Is it any wonder that no one wants their kids going there?

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When all the feeds get fired or relocated, it will open up some space at these schools

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that of all the many many neighborhoods in the county. By far the angriest and loudest are the Herndon area parents zoned to Langley.

Herndon HS is fine. Its mid as far as FCPS schools go. Not the best, not the worst.

When someone has had the "best" school for their kids--and Langley is the richest school--equality with what everyone else is getting --feels like injustice.

Ah, there you are. As if we didn't already know what your agenda is. Mediocrity for ALL! "Equity"! I'm so glad my kids are almost done with FCPS.
DP

The funny thing is, HHS kids in the same SES as Langley kids score as well as them. It is in Langley’s interests to not parse and promote the data because it would show that their school actually isn’t special.

I thought you didn’t want us to join your school? You said “screw you” To the Forestville families. Make up your mind.

I don’t give two hoots about your kids scores, just not interested in your situation, despite you being all up in others’ business.

Nothing I said changes anything about not wanting the F@!ville kids. However I am calling out those families who think their kids are special. THEY ARE NOT.

It's actually *you* who is "special." Very, very special indeed, in fact. Every unhinged post you write proves that. And, nice touch with the bolded. Klassy.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

I think it all depends on what other boundaries they propose to change.

If they just focus on cleaning up elementary school attendance islands as a first step, no one will pay attention to Langley, which doesn't have any ES feeders with attendance islands.

On the other hand, if they propose to change HS boundaries, and don't adjust the Langley boundaries, they'll likely be criticized for favoritism towards Langley. The prime example would be if they move any families out of West Springfield or Chantilly to other schools. All those families live close to West Springfield and Chantilly, which have compact, contiguous boundaries. Try telling a GS-14 who lives two miles from West Springfield that they are getting moved to Lewis, but that Langley families who live a few miles from Herndon and 12 miles from Langley are staying put.

As for the social capital, most people in the county would either be indifferent or happy to see Langley's boundaries changed. Even at Langley, the people who live in McLean zoned to Langley and aren't at risk don't really care. It's the people in Great Falls who might get moved who would raise a stink, and "taking on" the likes of the Great Falls Citizens Association would enhance the standing of some SB members in their communities.

DP. Re: the bolded, going to take issue with that. Absolutely no one in the county gives two $hits whether Langley's boundaries are changed - except the families who will actually be affected, their friends who live closer to Langley, and the psycho obsessives who fall into neither group but simply want to screw this community to assuage their own pathetic insecurity. That's it. No one else in the county is fretting and fixating on this small group of families. They are worried about THEIR OWN CHILDREN, like normal people.

Herndon has a reputation for over the top insecurity all over the county.

FIFY.

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Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

Chantilly parents will throw a fit over being moved to Westfield, generally seen as an inferior school.

Chantilly parents don't mind sending their kids to an overcrowded school. They love their school!!

Forestville loves our community schools too, so what’s your point. People pushing for boundary changes don’t care about these students.

Changing the school an ES matriculates to doesn't change the community of that school. Unless you're trying to say that Forestville is part of the Langley community, which is like, Elastigirl levels of stretching, didn't think that was possible in real life.

DP. What are you babbling about? Of course, Forestville is part of the Langley community. My kids don't even go there (they go to another Langley feeder elementary school), but duh.

Forestville is now a feeder ES to Langley. They might become a feeder to Herndon.
I have friends that sent their kids to private k-12 that have a Herndon address, but are zoned for Langley. Their “community” is centered around Herndon and Reston. That is where they go to the post office, do their banking, go to church, shopping. Their kids had jobs in that area as well. I find it odd to only base your “community” around where your kids go to school.

I too am curious how many Great Falls residents spend their time outside of school around Langley, i.e., central McLean (as opposed to Herndon and Reston). We live near McLean Central Park and our son goes to Langley, and the parents we know out in Great Falls say it is “inconvenient” meet us for lunch/brunch around McLean central or Tysons. We find ourselves driving out to Reston to meet them.

All the time! I go to an athletic club in McLean and have family there. We spend a little time in Reston too but actually we’re in Vienna the most. No one wants to come out to us in GF lol. I do try to avoid Tysons though - I really dislike all the crazy drivers and congestion in that area