Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

Divestment is not about taking money away from Israel. It is about sending a message that Israel is a pariah country, which then justifies attacks against Israel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They just seem like such a brats. I miss protestors with dignity. Like in the Civil Rights era.

The difference is that there was widespread popular support for the Civil Rights protestors. Here, there isn’t. That means that the protestors are largely bored and spoiled kids, because the adults who have a lot to actually lose aren’t joining in. The Civil War protests were made powerful by people who had a lot to lose, and so who acted with dignity, strength, and grace. These are just entitled brats.

However, the protestors have inadvertently caused what is arguably the best GoFundMe description in history. I will give them that.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

LOL - I don’t know whether to laugh or be horrified this has raised almost $30K

Less than an hour later they're past 40k...amazing!

This ad is super funny and amazing, the content creator did an awesome job! I am someone who supports the protestors, yet these kids put a smile on my face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Divestment is not about taking money away from Israel. It is about sending a message that Israel is a pariah country, which then justifies attacks against Israel.

Message not sent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is protests should happen in DC, not on campuses.

Even if a college divests, nothing changes. Like, literally nothing.

Protest peacefully in Washington. Lobby your reps on the Hill.

If you just want to cosplay “activist” on your parent’s dime instead of studying for exams, then do it in DC. At least it will be somewhat effective.

100%. And the thuggish, bullying tactics of the pro-Palestine protestors means they will never be able rally a peaceful protest in DC.

And what about pro-Israel protestors? Can they protest in DC or the thuggish, bullying tactics they displayed last night when a mob of hundreds dressed in black and wearing white masks attacked the pro-Palestinian encampment at UCLA disqualify them? I guess that’s not a big deal right? According to the Guardian and LA Times they attacked shouting that this was a second Nabka. Any outrage from the big Jewish donors? None?

The general public is disgusted by them too, but there are a lot more annoying spoiled brat pro-Palestinian protestors than pro-Israel protestors. None of them have popular support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They just seem like such a brats. I miss protestors with dignity. Like in the Civil Rights era.

The difference is that there was widespread popular support for the Civil Rights protestors. Here, there isn’t. That means that the protestors are largely bored and spoiled kids, because the adults who have a lot to actually lose aren’t joining in. The Civil War protests were made powerful by people who had a lot to lose, and so who acted with dignity, strength, and grace. These are just entitled brats.

However, the protestors have inadvertently caused what is arguably the best GoFundMe description in history. I will give them that.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

The difference is Israel support is all astroturf. The similarities are the same people who are against civil rights are pro Israel

You are so ignorant it isn't even close to funny.

Do you know who's been on the side of civil rights all this time? Jews. We have been there marching, donating, voting, working, all of it. It is one of the reasons that seeing the pro-Gaza protestors say such despicable, hateful things feels like such a betrayal now.

None of you are advocating for peace. You don't even want peace. You want to be the bloody victors of a horrible war. You're disgusting, immoral, history-blind people.

NP. PP, you’re the ignorant one! I’m in-laws with one of those Jewish families that famously funded MLK and ended up on Nixon’s enemies list (bc he thought them in a cabal!). The people they can’t abide aren’t campus protesters, it’s their bigoted in-laws and relatives who support the genocide in Israel and, quite frankly, Trump in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They just seem like such a brats. I miss protestors with dignity. Like in the Civil Rights era.

The difference is that there was widespread popular support for the Civil Rights protestors. Here, there isn’t. That means that the protestors are largely bored and spoiled kids, because the adults who have a lot to actually lose aren’t joining in. The Civil War protests were made powerful by people who had a lot to lose, and so who acted with dignity, strength, and grace. These are just entitled brats.

However, the protestors have inadvertently caused what is arguably the best GoFundMe description in history. I will give them that.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

The difference is Israel support is all astroturf. The similarities are the same people who are against civil rights are pro Israel

You are so ignorant it isn't even close to funny.

Do you know who's been on the side of civil rights all this time? Jews. We have been there marching, donating, voting, working, all of it. It is one of the reasons that seeing the pro-Gaza protestors say such despicable, hateful things feels like such a betrayal now.

None of you are advocating for peace. You don't even want peace. You want to be the bloody victors of a horrible war. You're disgusting, immoral, history-blind people.

NP. PP, you’re the ignorant one! I’m in-laws with one of those Jewish families that famously funded MLK and ended up on Nixon’s enemies list (bc he thought them in a cabal!). The people they can’t abide aren’t campus protesters, it’s their bigoted in-laws and relatives who support the genocide in Israel and, quite frankly, Trump in America.

Oh, did you marry into a Jewish family and now you're an expert on being Jewish? Well why don't I just forget what I know from actually being Jewish and just listen to you. You're such an expert. Go solve the Middle East conflicts while you're at it, oh all knowing one.

[Anonymous]

A serious question for the multiple posters who say they are in the "camp" of pulling support from Israel and letting them handle things alone moving forward:

Aren't you worried what could happen if the world left Israel alone and Iran or Hamas or pick another islamic extremist country hell bent on "death to West" (*which includes America and our wicked ways) gains control of Israel, their military equipment, and the iron dome?

Wouldn't that put us in a real pickle? A country equipped to unleash real terror with an air force and top notch drones, bombs, whatever that wouldn't be easily reined in thanks to the iron dome?

Isn't that the complexity of the situation that our leaders are presumably grappling with? Isn't it a compelling reason to stand on the side with the country that supports western values...as opposed to the terrorists running Gaza?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They just seem like such a brats. I miss protestors with dignity. Like in the Civil Rights era.

The difference is that there was widespread popular support for the Civil Rights protestors. Here, there isn’t. That means that the protestors are largely bored and spoiled kids, because the adults who have a lot to actually lose aren’t joining in. The Civil War protests were made powerful by people who had a lot to lose, and so who acted with dignity, strength, and grace. These are just entitled brats.

However, the protestors have inadvertently caused what is arguably the best GoFundMe description in history. I will give them that.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager

The difference is Israel support is all astroturf. The similarities are the same people who are against civil rights are pro Israel

You are so ignorant it isn't even close to funny.

Do you know who's been on the side of civil rights all this time? Jews. We have been there marching, donating, voting, working, all of it. It is one of the reasons that seeing the pro-Gaza protestors say such despicable, hateful things feels like such a betrayal now.

None of you are advocating for peace. You don't even want peace. You want to be the bloody victors of a horrible war. You're disgusting, immoral, history-blind people.

No. There ARE people advocating for peace including a few posters on here. You just have not encountered them.

These despicable threads are populated by people who have repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel, over and over - while using the word "zionist" as an epithet against anyone who does not agree. That is not peace. Calling for "intifada everywhere" is not peace.

If I haven't encountered those who want actual peace, it's because they are such a minority that they are drowned out by the loudest, most disgusting voices here. The people who demanded a ceasefire on October 8 are not interested in peace.

As usual, you intentionally conflate the words, actions and your caricature-like idea of what unknown people must be like to further your aims.

Back in reality, I think Zionism is promoted by some of the most angry, vicious, borderline evil people I have ever encountered in my life. I ALSO oppose intifada of any kind. I ALSO don't support the dissolution of Israel or the massacre of anyone. I ALSO know many sensible, kind, compassionate, intelligent Jews and Muslims. They just don't dwell here, apparently.

The Zionist fascism squad here seeks only to shout people down or attack anyone critical of Israel (not unlike the UCLA mob yesterday). Here, they throw around "anti-semitism", "Hamas supporter", "terrorist" and other false accusations with abandon. It's insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is protests should happen in DC, not on campuses.

Even if a college divests, nothing changes. Like, literally nothing.

Protest peacefully in Washington. Lobby your reps on the Hill.

If you just want to cosplay “activist” on your parent’s dime instead of studying for exams, then do it in DC. At least it will be somewhat effective.

100%. And the thuggish, bullying tactics of the pro-Palestine protestors means they will never be able rally a peaceful protest in DC.

And what about pro-Israel protestors? Can they protest in DC or the thuggish, bullying tactics they displayed last night when a mob of hundreds dressed in black and wearing white masks attacked the pro-Palestinian encampment at UCLA disqualify them? I guess that’s not a big deal right? According to the Guardian and LA Times they attacked shouting that this was a second Nabka. Any outrage from the big Jewish donors? None?

I think they should have been arrested and the encampment evicted. Happy? I also think the thuggish tactics of the encampment brought the attack in themselve. FAFO as they say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is protests should happen in DC, not on campuses.

Even if a college divests, nothing changes. Like, literally nothing.

Protest peacefully in Washington. Lobby your reps on the Hill.

If you just want to cosplay “activist” on your parent’s dime instead of studying for exams, then do it in DC. At least it will be somewhat effective.

100%. And the thuggish, bullying tactics of the pro-Palestine protestors means they will never be able rally a peaceful protest in DC.

And what about pro-Israel protestors? Can they protest in DC or the thuggish, bullying tactics they displayed last night when a mob of hundreds dressed in black and wearing white masks attacked the pro-Palestinian encampment at UCLA disqualify them? I guess that’s not a big deal right? According to the Guardian and LA Times they attacked shouting that this was a second Nabka. Any outrage from the big Jewish donors? None?

The general public is disgusted by them too, but there are a lot more annoying spoiled brat pro-Palestinian protestors than pro-Israel protestors. None of them have popular support.

+1 they're all a bunch of pea-brained idiots looking for trouble. If they really cared about a cause for certain people, they'd get a one way ticket to Gaza or Israel so their protests can be heard by those that care about their whiny butts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A serious question for the multiple posters who say they are in the "camp" of pulling support from Israel and letting them handle things alone moving forward:

Aren't you worried what could happen if the world left Israel alone and Iran or Hamas or pick another islamic extremist country hell bent on "death to West" (*which includes America and our wicked ways) gains control of Israel, their military equipment, and the iron dome?

Wouldn't that put us in a real pickle? A country equipped to unleash real terror with an air force and top notch drones, bombs, whatever that wouldn't be easily reined in thanks to the iron dome?

Isn't that the complexity of the situation that our leaders are presumably grappling with? Isn't it a compelling reason to stand on the side with the country that supports western values...as opposed to the terrorists running Gaza?

I don’t want to pull support entirely. But I think it could be safely reduced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A serious question for the multiple posters who say they are in the "camp" of pulling support from Israel and letting them handle things alone moving forward:

Aren't you worried what could happen if the world left Israel alone and Iran or Hamas or pick another islamic extremist country hell bent on "death to West" (*which includes America and our wicked ways) gains control of Israel, their military equipment, and the iron dome?

Wouldn't that put us in a real pickle? A country equipped to unleash real terror with an air force and top notch drones, bombs, whatever that wouldn't be easily reined in thanks to the iron dome?

Isn't that the complexity of the situation that our leaders are presumably grappling with? Isn't it a compelling reason to stand on the side with the country that supports western values...as opposed to the terrorists running Gaza?

No, not worried at all. The fictitious strategic value of an alliance with Israel is just that - fiction. I don't see other countries trying to swoop in a curry Israel's favor. Far from it, in fact. All this talk about strategic value and contributions in science and technology, yet every other country is on the "no, thanks" train?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is protests should happen in DC, not on campuses.

Even if a college divests, nothing changes. Like, literally nothing.

Protest peacefully in Washington. Lobby your reps on the Hill.

If you just want to cosplay “activist” on your parent’s dime instead of studying for exams, then do it in DC. At least it will be somewhat effective.

100%. And the thuggish, bullying tactics of the pro-Palestine protestors means they will never be able rally a peaceful protest in DC.

And what about pro-Israel protestors? Can they protest in DC or the thuggish, bullying tactics they displayed last night when a mob of hundreds dressed in black and wearing white masks attacked the pro-Palestinian encampment at UCLA disqualify them? I guess that’s not a big deal right? According to the Guardian and LA Times they attacked shouting that this was a second Nabka. Any outrage from the big Jewish donors? None?

I think they should have been arrested and the encampment evicted. Happy? I also think the thuggish tactics of the encampment brought the attack in themselve. FAFO as they say.

Do you understand that others think FAFO explains 10/7, too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is protests should happen in DC, not on campuses.

Even if a college divests, nothing changes. Like, literally nothing.

Protest peacefully in Washington. Lobby your reps on the Hill.

If you just want to cosplay “activist” on your parent’s dime instead of studying for exams, then do it in DC. At least it will be somewhat effective.

100%. And the thuggish, bullying tactics of the pro-Palestine protestors means they will never be able rally a peaceful protest in DC.

And what about pro-Israel protestors? Can they protest in DC or the thuggish, bullying tactics they displayed last night when a mob of hundreds dressed in black and wearing white masks attacked the pro-Palestinian encampment at UCLA disqualify them? I guess that’s not a big deal right? According to the Guardian and LA Times they attacked shouting that this was a second Nabka. Any outrage from the big Jewish donors? None?

The general public is disgusted by them too, but there are a lot more annoying spoiled brat pro-Palestinian protestors than pro-Israel protestors. None of them have popular support.

+1 they're all a bunch of pea-brained idiots looking for trouble. If they really cared about a cause for certain people, they'd get a one way ticket to Gaza or Israel so their protests can be heard by those that care about their whiny butts.

If they really cared they would orchestrate *non-violent* mass peaceful protest in DC. But they don’t want that - they want radical chic cosplay (and it’s not even that chic at this point, it’s mostly cringey aesthetically.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is protests should happen in DC, not on campuses.

Even if a college divests, nothing changes. Like, literally nothing.

Protest peacefully in Washington. Lobby your reps on the Hill.

If you just want to cosplay “activist” on your parent’s dime instead of studying for exams, then do it in DC. At least it will be somewhat effective.

100%. And the thuggish, bullying tactics of the pro-Palestine protestors means they will never be able rally a peaceful protest in DC.

And what about pro-Israel protestors? Can they protest in DC or the thuggish, bullying tactics they displayed last night when a mob of hundreds dressed in black and wearing white masks attacked the pro-Palestinian encampment at UCLA disqualify them? I guess that’s not a big deal right? According to the Guardian and LA Times they attacked shouting that this was a second Nabka. Any outrage from the big Jewish donors? None?

I think they should have been arrested and the encampment evicted. Happy? I also think the thuggish tactics of the encampment brought the attack in themselve. FAFO as they say.

Do you understand that others think FAFO explains 10/7, too?

FAFO absolutely explains the destruction Hamas brought to its own people via 10/7. Absolutely.