2024 POTUS - polling only

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Anonymous wrote:Real clear politics is not a reliable source people it’s owned by Peter


Peter who?
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Anonymous wrote:Any polls showing Trump almost tied or leading Harris are devastating. Most polls undercount true support for Trump.

She is toast.


No. Polling has consistently over-sampled Trump supporters since 2016 when Trump had his "shock" win (which really was not a shock - he was within margin of error for the last month before 2016 election).

The fact of the matter is that Trump is doing pretty awful with Independents, his own Republican base (those who support Haley, Romney, Cheney), women, and young people. He has not broadened his coalition. His base has shrunk, even if they are very enthusiastic about voting.


I guess Black men, Hispanic men, Orthodox Jews, and Muslims don’t count?

Trump is outperforming any Republican in the history of presidential politics in all these groups. What are you talking about?

Interesting. Trump is something those two groups can agree and get behind. Wow.
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Anonymous wrote:I am having ptsd…Hillary’s loss in 2016 is haunting me.

Well, what are you doing to change that? Please tell me you were volunteering.


Seriously how is this not the responsibility of Harris and Walz? I can’t personally carry Kamala over the finish line and into the oval office. She’s gotta convince voters to come out and vote for her.

Are you kidding me? The campaign has thousands of people volunteering. Candidates always have volunteers help their campaign. It could never be done by paid staff. So yes, it is your job.


It’s the job of volunteers to convince Americans to vote for Harris?

So if she loses it’s their fault?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The polls show she is slipping in every swing state. The national lead of 3-4 points is meaningless.



Which polls? The BS polls that Eric keeps posting.
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Michigan isn’t looking good for Harris right now. She hasn’t run a good campaign there at all. She has little understand of the economics there, or of heavy manufacturing. The Arabs despise her and the black voters are just not thrilled. It’s not the same set of mistakes that Hillary made in 2016, but there is a huge enthusiasm gap.
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Anonymous wrote:Michigan isn’t looking good for Harris right now. She hasn’t run a good campaign there at all. She has little understand of the economics there, or of heavy manufacturing. The Arabs despise her and the black voters are just not thrilled. It’s not the same set of mistakes that Hillary made in 2016, but there is a huge enthusiasm gap.


Plus the unions hate her.
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Anonymous wrote:Any polls showing Trump almost tied or leading Harris are devastating. Most polls undercount true support for Trump.

She is toast.


No. Polling has consistently over-sampled Trump supporters since 2016 when Trump had his "shock" win (which really was not a shock - he was within margin of error for the last month before 2016 election).

The fact of the matter is that Trump is doing pretty awful with Independents, his own Republican base (those who support Haley, Romney, Cheney), women, and young people. He has not broadened his coalition. His base has shrunk, even if they are very enthusiastic about voting.


I guess Black men, Hispanic men, Orthodox Jews, and Muslims don’t count?

Trump is outperforming any Republican in the history of presidential politics in all these groups. What are you talking about?


You said that in 2020 too and he still lost black men, Hispanic men, and Muslims by huge margins. Orthodox Jews are literally like 500,000 mostly concentrated in NJ and NY; they are not tipping the needle.


You said he didn't broaden his coalition. Now you are saying he didn't win the groups so it doesn't matter if he broadened his coalition.
Anonymous
These are the kind of polls that the Trumpers are posting here. Polls that ignore likely voters in a swing state’s largest city.
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Anonymous wrote:These are the kind of polls that the Trumpers are posting here. Polls that ignore likely voters in a swing state’s largest city.


This makes perfect sense if you think all the votes from Philadelphia will get thrown out. Which Trump already tried to do in 2020! Of course it’s Trump +1.

This is egregious.
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If you remove Philadelphia, it should swing a lot more than that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you remove Philadelphia, it should swing a lot more than that.

OK, they didn't remove Philadelphia, they removed 90% of it. Maybe the swing is correct.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Michigan isn’t looking good for Harris right now. She hasn’t run a good campaign there at all. She has little understand of the economics there, or of heavy manufacturing. The Arabs despise her and the black voters are just not thrilled. It’s not the same set of mistakes that Hillary made in 2016, but there is a huge enthusiasm gap.

I don’t know what you’re smoking, but Michigan is not going for Trump. They flipped their entire state legislator to democrats just two years ago yeah there are some loudmouth “Gaza“ protesters, but they are a small, small number. I’m not saying that all of our population will get behind Harris but Most will and anyway that population is very small.
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Anonymous wrote:No matter which one wins, this country is in deep trouble. Since 2000, the US has been in a steep decline:

- Bush vs. Gore
- Citizens United
- 9/11
- Iraq War
- Great Recession
- COVID

All have taken a heavy toll


And since 2000, our newly elected presidents have been the son of a former POTUS, one term Senator, unhinged reality TV moron, and an elderly 50 year politician with poor leadership skills. Way to go USA!!!!


and yet, the one-term senator and the 50 year veteran managed to steer the country's economy in the right direction after the disasters they each inherited.
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Anonymous wrote:Michigan isn’t looking good for Harris right now. She hasn’t run a good campaign there at all. She has little understand of the economics there, or of heavy manufacturing. The Arabs despise her and the black voters are just not thrilled. It’s not the same set of mistakes that Hillary made in 2016, but there is a huge enthusiasm gap.



Michigan is 50%-50% when someone is up by 2-3 points its a tie, I saw a poll in Michigan saying Trump is winning the youth vote that not happening keep dreaming.
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