McLean leaving FVU

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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


I'm not sure how any new partner clubs makes a difference either way. As long as FVU becomes the main destination for FFX County residents, they will be fine. Who is actually looking to drive an hour+ for practices these days? Maybe only a handful of players as Return to Office keeps trending in this direction.


Exactly. So, think about it for a moment. When the majority of clubs are in GA and MLS who is VYS and BYC going to play? Well over 50% of the clubs in the DC area are already in GA or moving to GA. Therefore, good luck to ECNL to find local clubs to play against. In the end, for most parents who don't have kids seeking scholarships they just want their kids to play on a local team.


GFR, Arlington, Valor, Stafford, and VSA all generally have stronger RL girls’ teams than McLean.

PWSI, LMVSC, DCSC, and BRYC also remain, but need to improve their girls’ RL teams.

RL also has strong teams in the south division, with teams such as United, Strikers, and Reign.
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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


I'm not sure how any new partner clubs makes a difference either way. As long as FVU becomes the main destination for FFX County residents, they will be fine. Who is actually looking to drive an hour+ for practices these days? Maybe only a handful of players as Return to Office keeps trending in this direction.


Exactly. So, think about it for a moment. When the majority of clubs are in GA and MLS who is VYS and BYC going to play? Well over 50% of the clubs in the DC area are already in GA or moving to GA. Therefore, good luck to ECNL to find local clubs to play against. In the end, for most parents who don't have kids seeking scholarships they just want their kids to play on a local team.


My club in the NA ECNL regularly schedules friendlies against all the local GA clubs. They'll continue to play their normal schedule and supplement as necessary.
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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


It was in a club newsletter.

Quote: The Fairfax VA Union is comprised of four clubs, Villarreal Virginia Academy, Vienna Youth Soccer, Braddock Road, Virginia Valor and two more clubs to join soon.

Are there 2 Clubs left? Great Falls? Herndon? Lee/Mount Vernon?
I'm assuming they would be Fairfax County ECNL-R Clubs...


I wonder if Sterling would be in the mix. I know it is not Fairfax County, but it is on the border (very close to Herndon and Reston). That would allow for some in-roads into Loudoun County especially now that there is no ECNL team in Loudoun. I just don't know much about Sterling's program... is it worthwhile to bring over to Union? Can't be any worse that Villareal, right?
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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


I'm not sure how any new partner clubs makes a difference either way. As long as FVU becomes the main destination for FFX County residents, they will be fine. Who is actually looking to drive an hour+ for practices these days? Maybe only a handful of players as Return to Office keeps trending in this direction.


Exactly. So, think about it for a moment. When the majority of clubs are in GA and MLS who is VYS and BYC going to play? Well over 50% of the clubs in the DC area are already in GA or moving to GA. Therefore, good luck to ECNL to find local clubs to play against. In the end, for most parents who don't have kids seeking scholarships they just want their kids to play on a local team.


Sorry, but this is a really dumb statement. Good luck playing local clubs to play against? Uh the whole point of ECNL is it is a NATIONAL league so of course parents signing up for ECNL will know they will have to travel. DMV has been spoiled with all the clubs in ECNL in the past, a lot of them moving to MLS Next/GA is actually a good thing for ECNL. Doesn't dilute the league and weeds out those that aren't in it to play at the next level. Kids want to play on a local team? Go play rec, travel isn't for you. SMH
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


It was in a club newsletter.

Quote: The Fairfax VA Union is comprised of four clubs, Villarreal Virginia Academy, Vienna Youth Soccer, Braddock Road, Virginia Valor and two more clubs to join soon.

Are there 2 Clubs left? Great Falls? Herndon? Lee/Mount Vernon?
I'm assuming they would be Fairfax County ECNL-R Clubs...

Herndon is in with VDA. If GFR was happening, wouldn’t that have been announced by now?

LMVSC makes sense.
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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


I'm not sure how any new partner clubs makes a difference either way. As long as FVU becomes the main destination for FFX County residents, they will be fine. Who is actually looking to drive an hour+ for practices these days? Maybe only a handful of players as Return to Office keeps trending in this direction.


Exactly. So, think about it for a moment. When the majority of clubs are in GA and MLS who is VYS and BYC going to play? Well over 50% of the clubs in the DC area are already in GA or moving to GA. Therefore, good luck to ECNL to find local clubs to play against. In the end, for most parents who don't have kids seeking scholarships they just want their kids to play on a local team.


Yeah it's for all the dumb parents that want to pay 3-4k just to say your kid plays travel. If you don't want to do top team things don't sign your kid up for a top team. It's not for everyone for a reason.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


I'm not sure how any new partner clubs makes a difference either way. As long as FVU becomes the main destination for FFX County residents, they will be fine. Who is actually looking to drive an hour+ for practices these days? Maybe only a handful of players as Return to Office keeps trending in this direction.


Exactly. So, think about it for a moment. When the majority of clubs are in GA and MLS who is VYS and BYC going to play? Well over 50% of the clubs in the DC area are already in GA or moving to GA. Therefore, good luck to ECNL to find local clubs to play against. In the end, for most parents who don't have kids seeking scholarships they just want their kids to play on a local team.


Why sign your child up for GA or ECNL if you don’t want to travel?


Yeah it's for all the dumb parents that want to pay 3-4k just to say your kid plays travel. If you don't want to do top team things don't sign your kid up for a top team. It's not for everyone for a reason.
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I have a hard time believing that MLS next tier 2 will be the equivalent of ECNL, despite that being what tier 2 clubs are trying to brand as.

Many ECNL teams were comprised of mixed communities and alliances, for better or worse. There were not very many of them, and ECNL kept it that way for a reason - to keep the playing level high. Now, if every club that doesn’t like being in an alliance says we are going to spin off and apply for acceptance to MLA next tier 2, and claims that it is an ECNL competitor, they are purely marketing. ECNL is supposed to be super competitive. And so if McLean was contributing let’s say three or four kids to Fairfax union and the other teams were contributing three or four kids, that was the make up of the team. It doesn’t stand to reason that all of the individual clubs can claim that they can break off and field that many ECNL caliber kids on their own. And the more that joined/join 2 while claiming that, the more diluted the player pool quality becomes. Perhaps eventually some of these teams will build and recruit players in such a way that they are comparable to an ECNL team, but certainly not in the expansion years.

It is the equivalent of a bunch of NFL owners and players spinning off and creating the XFL along with some heavy marketing and celebrities, and claiming that it is a competitor to the NFL. It’s not.
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The core (rooted) in Mclean is decaying. Everything they are doing is just a facade. Player development has been absent from Mclean's vocabulary for the past 10 years. Without checks and balances in place, coaches will act as they please. It's time to remove the board ED and TD. Install individuals who will uphold accountability. Let go of the big names. Instead, bring in hardworking individuals who genuinely care for the players and their future. The current environment is truly disheartening.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that MLS next tier 2 will be the equivalent of ECNL, despite that being what tier 2 clubs are trying to brand as.

Many ECNL teams were comprised of mixed communities and alliances, for better or worse. There were not very many of them, and ECNL kept it that way for a reason - to keep the playing level high. Now, if every club that doesn’t like being in an alliance says we are going to spin off and apply for acceptance to MLA next tier 2, and claims that it is an ECNL competitor, they are purely marketing. ECNL is supposed to be super competitive. And so if McLean was contributing let’s say three or four kids to Fairfax union and the other teams were contributing three or four kids, that was the make up of the team. It doesn’t stand to reason that all of the individual clubs can claim that they can break off and field that many ECNL caliber kids on their own. And the more that joined/join 2 while claiming that, the more diluted the player pool quality becomes. Perhaps eventually some of these teams will build and recruit players in such a way that they are comparable to an ECNL team, but certainly not in the expansion years.

It is the equivalent of a bunch of NFL owners and players spinning off and creating the XFL along with some heavy marketing and celebrities, and claiming that it is a competitor to the NFL. It’s not.


Cool story. You are free to take your business elsewhere
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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


It was in a club newsletter.

Quote: The Fairfax VA Union is comprised of four clubs, Villarreal Virginia Academy, Vienna Youth Soccer, Braddock Road, Virginia Valor and two more clubs to join soon.

Are there 2 Clubs left? Great Falls? Herndon? Lee/Mount Vernon?
I'm assuming they would be Fairfax County ECNL-R Clubs...

Herndon is in with VDA. If GFR was happening, wouldn’t that have been announced by now?

LMVSC makes sense.


I'm curious, besides access to more field space what else does the Union gain from so many members. On the flip side, what do the clubs really gain from being part of the Union?
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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that MLS next tier 2 will be the equivalent of ECNL, despite that being what tier 2 clubs are trying to brand as.

Many ECNL teams were comprised of mixed communities and alliances, for better or worse. There were not very many of them, and ECNL kept it that way for a reason - to keep the playing level high. Now, if every club that doesn’t like being in an alliance says we are going to spin off and apply for acceptance to MLA next tier 2, and claims that it is an ECNL competitor, they are purely marketing. ECNL is supposed to be super competitive. And so if McLean was contributing let’s say three or four kids to Fairfax union and the other teams were contributing three or four kids, that was the make up of the team. It doesn’t stand to reason that all of the individual clubs can claim that they can break off and field that many ECNL caliber kids on their own. And the more that joined/join 2 while claiming that, the more diluted the player pool quality becomes. Perhaps eventually some of these teams will build and recruit players in such a way that they are comparable to an ECNL team, but certainly not in the expansion years.

It is the equivalent of a bunch of NFL owners and players spinning off and creating the XFL along with some heavy marketing and celebrities, and claiming that it is a competitor to the NFL. It’s not.


Cool story. You are free to take your business elsewhere


Next 2 is not the equivalent of ECNL. It is equivalent to ECRL. McLean’s RL team will become its Next 2 team.
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Anonymous wrote:McLean left Valor and Villarreal joined!



https://www.fvaunion.org/press-release-2



Currently have Vienna, Valor, Villarreal, and Braddock Road.

Two more clubs are joining soon. Who will they be?


Where are you seeing "two more joining soon" Seems like it already happened. The PR in Feb when MYS left noted that BRYC and VYS remained. Then in March they announced VALOR and VIVA had joined.


Yeah is this a rumor or does the PP have some inside knowledge? Seems an odd comment to just throw out there.


It was in a club newsletter.

Quote: The Fairfax VA Union is comprised of four clubs, Villarreal Virginia Academy, Vienna Youth Soccer, Braddock Road, Virginia Valor and two more clubs to join soon.

Are there 2 Clubs left? Great Falls? Herndon? Lee/Mount Vernon?
I'm assuming they would be Fairfax County ECNL-R Clubs...

Herndon is in with VDA. If GFR was happening, wouldn’t that have been announced by now?

LMVSC makes sense.


I'm curious, besides access to more field space what else does the Union gain from so many members. On the flip side, what do the clubs really gain from being part of the Union?


Marketing material to fool new parents to join and pay $$$$.
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Anonymous wrote:The core (rooted) in Mclean is decaying. Everything they are doing is just a facade. Player development has been absent from Mclean's vocabulary for the past 10 years. Without checks and balances in place, coaches will act as they please. It's time to remove the board ED and TD. Install individuals who will uphold accountability. Let go of the big names. Instead, bring in hardworking individuals who genuinely care for the players and their future. The current environment is truly disheartening.


They just brought in JH last year. The town hall was a positive experience overall, were you there? I think they are trying their best to turn things around.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that MLS next tier 2 will be the equivalent of ECNL, despite that being what tier 2 clubs are trying to brand as.

Many ECNL teams were comprised of mixed communities and alliances, for better or worse. There were not very many of them, and ECNL kept it that way for a reason - to keep the playing level high. Now, if every club that doesn’t like being in an alliance says we are going to spin off and apply for acceptance to MLA next tier 2, and claims that it is an ECNL competitor, they are purely marketing. ECNL is supposed to be super competitive. And so if McLean was contributing let’s say three or four kids to Fairfax union and the other teams were contributing three or four kids, that was the make up of the team. It doesn’t stand to reason that all of the individual clubs can claim that they can break off and field that many ECNL caliber kids on their own. And the more that joined/join 2 while claiming that, the more diluted the player pool quality becomes. Perhaps eventually some of these teams will build and recruit players in such a way that they are comparable to an ECNL team, but certainly not in the expansion years.

It is the equivalent of a bunch of NFL owners and players spinning off and creating the XFL along with some heavy marketing and celebrities, and claiming that it is a competitor to the NFL. It’s not.


Cool story. You are free to take your business elsewhere


Next 2 is not the equivalent of ECNL. It is equivalent to ECRL. McLean’s RL team will become its Next 2 team.


Bingo. MYS Green (currently ECRL) becomes their Tier II 1st team playing in MLS Next Tier II, and MYS White (currently a strong NCSL team) becomes their Tier II 2nd team playing in NAL. Everyone else (Gold, Silver) to stay NCSL. In my opinion the biggest difference here isn't that the top team (Green) plays in an ECRL-competitor, but rather that the 2nd team (White) is no longer playing in NCSL but rather in NAL - which is a step up from NCSL.
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