How long will the shutdown last?

Anonymous
The Trump proposal is unlikely to pass the Senate. Let Mitch bring it to a vote. If it passes, then the House would need to take it up.

Otherwise, the shutdown still lay at the feet of McConnell and Trump - pass the clean House bill and do a real negotiation over DHS and border security.
Anonymous
Definitely not this week. House and Senate aren’t scheduled to vote on anything.
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Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?


I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.

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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?


Right his proposal was just.."lets do what I want"

The con man hasn't made any proposal. He can't offer a temporary solution for the mess he created in return for a permanent wall. No one but his cult is as stupid to believe he made a proposal. Let him make a REAL proposal, something permanent for a permanent barrier. Thats a start. Until then he owns the shutdown as he proudly proclaimed.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?


I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.
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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not this week. House and Senate aren’t scheduled to vote on anything.


Probably not until March.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


You must not be very bright.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.


That’s not a “lie,” so please stop with the zombie-like talking points. The current dynamics are what matter at this point. You have no answer for why Team Nancy isn’t negotiating. So that’s that. Saying this is “all about Trump” is not an argument. Perhaps what you’re trying to say is that the Democratic leadership simply should not reach an agreement if it gives Trump something of what he wants. I fail to see how that’s a grown up view.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


You must not be very bright.


No—it’s not an argument. Rather, it’s an emotive repeating of slogans.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.


+1

We had a passable budget. Figure it out, GOP.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.


That’s not a “lie,” so please stop with the zombie-like talking points. The current dynamics are what matter at this point. You have no answer for why Team Nancy isn’t negotiating. So that’s that. Saying this is “all about Trump” is not an argument. Perhaps what you’re trying to say is that the Democratic leadership simply should not reach an agreement if it gives Trump something of what he wants. I fail to see how that’s a grown up view.


No negotiating until the government is opened. That's the position and you know it. Stop being a moron.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.


That’s not a “lie,” so please stop with the zombie-like talking points. The current dynamics are what matter at this point. You have no answer for why Team Nancy isn’t negotiating. So that’s that. Saying this is “all about Trump” is not an argument. Perhaps what you’re trying to say is that the Democratic leadership simply should not reach an agreement if it gives Trump something of what he wants. I fail to see how that’s a grown up view.


No negotiating until the government is opened. That's the position and you know it. Stop being a moron.

If Nancy won't negotiate until Trump accepts her spending proposal, then why would she negotiate AFTER he gives in and she gets what she wants? There would be no reason to. She got what she wanted.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.


That’s not a “lie,” so please stop with the zombie-like talking points. The current dynamics are what matter at this point. You have no answer for why Team Nancy isn’t negotiating. So that’s that. Saying this is “all about Trump” is not an argument. Perhaps what you’re trying to say is that the Democratic leadership simply should not reach an agreement if it gives Trump something of what he wants. I fail to see how that’s a grown up view.


No negotiating until the government is opened. That's the position and you know it. Stop being a moron.


If Nancy won't negotiate until Trump accepts her spending proposal, then why would she negotiate AFTER he gives in and she gets what she wants? There would be no reason to. She got what she wanted.


We you in a coma throughout high school (note that I'm not mentioning college)? THE GOVERNMENT GETS OPENED, THEN WALL NEGOTIATIONS COMMENCE.
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Anonymous wrote:The great deal maker is failing bigly at making a deal.


Tough to deal when your alleged negotiating party just keeps saying no, right? It’s kind of like Trump is seeking peace from the Palestinian side and Demicrats are the Likud Party. No, no, no!


The conman can only con poorly educated people. The deal he offered is no deal. He created the DACA issue by harassing the DACA recipients. And now he offers a deal he won't harass them for 3 years. Thats no deal. Thats hostage taking and blackmailing. He can only fool his cult NOT the rest of the world who can think.


Not sure what to make of this weird word salad.


Not PP. But if you don't understand, maybe you need to take some English language for foreigners course.


Seems like Trump has made a proposal? What is Team Nancy doing to help feds?



I've lost count of the number of appropriation bills she has passed recently to reopen the government. Maybe you can look it up if you're interested.



Here’s the thing. That’s not negotiating. Republicans control the Senate and the Presidency (the last one is tough to believe, right?). So she has to make serious, reasonable proposals in response to these dynamics. Doing something that Mitch has said won’t happen is not serious on these circumstances. It’s a face saving gesture for her gullible base.

Don't lie. This is all about Trump. The House passed the same budget that made it unanimously through the Senate last month, but then Speaker Ryan refused to bring up in the House. The only thing that changed between the two votes was Trump said he wouldn't sign the budget.


That’s not a “lie,” so please stop with the zombie-like talking points. The current dynamics are what matter at this point. You have no answer for why Team Nancy isn’t negotiating. So that’s that. Saying this is “all about Trump” is not an argument. Perhaps what you’re trying to say is that the Democratic leadership simply should not reach an agreement if it gives Trump something of what he wants. I fail to see how that’s a grown up view.


No negotiating until the government is opened. That's the position and you know it. Stop being a moron.


If Nancy won't negotiate until Trump accepts her spending proposal, then why would she negotiate AFTER he gives in and she gets what she wants? There would be no reason to. She got what she wanted.


We you in a coma throughout high school (note that I'm not mentioning college)? THE GOVERNMENT GETS OPENED, THEN WALL NEGOTIATIONS COMMENCE.

Yes, I noted you insulted my completed level of education, which is the typical lib insult.

Did you hear the venom and hate spewing from Schumer and Pelosi following Trump's olive branch? You think they will give an inch once the government opens? They'd have no reason to. They'd think, "the Republicans caved as usual, and we got what we wanted. A spending bill that still allows illegal immigrants an easy path in."

No dice. They want the government open? Well they need to make a reasonable counteroffer.

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