Of course not (PP here). And again I'm only talking about for babies here -- the idea with attachment theory is to form the strong parent-child bond early in order to provide the child with a secure attachment and then you can build more independence into the child's life because they have developed a firm belief that you will always come back. And I didn't spend every single nap with my baby! I was just noting that I can see what the benefit to napping with a very young child would be because the PP was mocking it like it was stupid to say that a parent napping with their child is providing value. I think the experience of many parents who nap with their babies during parental leaves or who use infant carriers to keep babies close to them (even if they are working) undermines this point. Young children benefit from the physical closeness of their primary caregivers. Even at my very medicalized birth in a hospital (high risk pregnancy) both DH and I were encouraged to do skin to skin contact after birth and told to continue this after we went home to promote bonding and because it is show to help regulate the infant's breathing and heart rate. It makes a lot of sense when you think about how human children are born fairly helpless compared to other mammals -- from an evolutionary standpoint there is plenty of evidence that human infants are supposed to spend most of the first year of life physically close to their caregivers. These are pretty widely accepted ideas about infant development. |
+1. I think this person is about to spend the next 6 hours solo parenting before she puts her preschoolers to bed at 9 pm and she and her husband log on for another hour of work at 9:30 pm. I can’t wait to hear about how you really do have it all when you’re done working at 10:30 🙃 |
I actually see it 100% differently than you. I did not give up a more prestigious job. I did not give up autonomy over schedule. I did not give up money. I actually did all of that because it was exactly what I wanted. I wanted a fun flexible job and a H who was 100% involved in every facet of the child rearing. It wasn't a sacrifice it was a plan. We both wanted to be fully engaged with the child, both together and alone, we felt it was in the best interest of the child and so they were fully bonded with both of us. There was never a plan or a need or a want to be there 24x7 with a dad who is rarely home some "presetigous" job and more money than we needed. Nothing was given up or sacrificed, it was all part of the plan. |
PP here and I wound up only having one kid because I had secondary infertility and now I am too old for another kid. But yes the plan was to do this exact schedule with the second. This is of course only made possible because I work for an organization that permits it -- we offer 4 months of paid leave to all parents (men and women and includes adoptive parents as well as people who are the primary caregivers to adults who need full time care) and the leave policy explicitly allows for people to take up to a year total of leave (inclusive of the paid leave though the rest would be unpaid) and keep their jobs and we have procedures in place to re-integrated folks who have taken extended leaves. I've had two people on my team take similar leaves in the last 6 years including one who is a dad but is the primary parent and we've worked it out. It's the only way something like this is possible. Though I did make some friends during my leave who essentially did the same thing by quitting their prior jobs and then taking a year off and then going back to work in new jobs. That's much more stressful but it at least allows for the time off. Someone upthread mentioned knowing a lot of women who did something similar taking off 1-3 years and then returning to work -- I don't think this is what anyone is thinking of when they think "SAHP" but I actually think it's the most common iteration of it because financially giving up a second income is so hard for a family and also personally I don't know a lot of people who want to be at home once kids are school age. |
Only SAHM's have to solo parent the rest of us have H who also parent. |
I'm really grateful my wife if a SAHM.
No offense to hard working people in the child care industry...they are to be commended. However, nobody can educate and love kids as much as their parents. Especially not entry-level workers. Everyone works for someone...it can be Bill Lumbergh or your family! |
Exactly! Nobody here ever complains about their husband not helping out. Everyone has it 50/50 or better! |
What do you do for work, exactly? I hope nothing too consequential. Your reasoning and writing ability does not inspire confidence. |
Speak for yourself only. Plenty of dual-income families do NOT have involved husbands. There are lots of working moms whose husbands don't do much parenting/with the kids. |
+1 I'm a working mom and luckily my H is not one of them, but yes this is of course sadly true. And plenty of H's of SAHMs are great. But you see, the other PP (and a few others like her) have made up a whole convenient narrative as to what SAHM households look like. The H in these households is forced to work a biiiiig fancy job that keeps him away from his kids all but a fraction of the time, yet despite that, apparently they can't afford domestic help so the SAHM wastes all her kids' waking hours on domestic chores. |
This is the reality for a lot of single income families though, except the H's job isn't fancy and he's working overtime to make ends meet. DCUM is pretty out of touch about how anyone but the UMC/UC lives. |
You have no clue what it's like in others' households. I'm a SAHM with a very involved DH. I have a good friend who is works full time in a very demanding career as does her husband and even though they both work more than 40 hours a week (and both earn about the same amount of $, which I only mention bc I'm sure someone will bring it up), she does majority of the household and childcare related tasks while her DH does very little. Being a family w/ 2 working parents or 1 working parent and 1 SAHP, the amount of involvement each parent has w/ their kids is different in each family. It's incredibly naive and stupid of you to assume that SAHMs all have uninvolved DHs and working moms all have involved DHs. |
How do you know that? I'm a SAHM and my husband's job isn't fancy and he doesn't work overtime. We are very middle class, not UMC or UC at all. |
Families like yours do not exist in the other PP's mind because they don't help her feel better about her set-up. |
Whole lotta busy, secure, successful working moms posting on a glorified gossip board in the middle of the work day.
-gainfully employed, but not deluded, mom |