MCSL is making Marc Elrich look like Ron Desantis

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Anonymous wrote:There is a petition on change.org “Amend MCSL Restrictive Summer Policies” if you are inclined to sign.

Can you post a link?

https://www.change.org/p/montgomery-county-swim-team-programs-amend-mcsl-restrictive-summer-policies

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is a fully vaccinated coach who is happy to wear a mask if it’s actually needed, but it’s not. Lots of “it’s no big deal” to keep wearing a mask but the coaches stand out there with no shade for hours screaming at kids. Miserable and borderline unsafe in the high temps.

My fully vaccinated coach thinks a mask at the B meets and other situations when you are in close proximity to dozens of unvaccinated swimmers is appropriate. Standing on deck while kids are in the water, not needed.

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Elrich’s latest communication says masks in outdoor settings where social distancing is not possible so fully expecting MCSL to require masks. If more kids are allowed to compete with masks on deck , its a price worth paying imo.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad to hear they are reconsidering. Between 12-15 starting to get vaccinated, adults mostly vaccinated and being outdoors and in the chlorinated pool, the risk is limited and no sense keeping meets restricted if the whole county is wide open by the time the meets start based on science.

If you base it on science, we still have a duty to protect our 12 and under and the 12-15 are just starting to get vaccinated. Kids and adults are packed closely together at these meets and there is often little distancing. Look, we get it. You base your worth on your kid winning. Lets just say your kid is the winner in every race. You can now brag and the rest of us can consider participating with strict rules to keep our kids safe.

I find this response really mean spirited. I for one want my child competing bc it has been so brutal physically and mentally for them all year. Kids don't get the infection as easily and given the incredibly high inoculation rates in the county (my children are also vaccinated) I am happy to let them race. If your child is not vaccinated, just keep them out of the pool but there is no reason for your fears to run my life.

They get infected. They are more likely for it not to be severe. Your kids are probably socializing, swimming and in person school. How have they really suffered? Maybe there is more to it if your kids are having mental heal issues and your idea of help is racing vs therapy and meds.

DP. You seem to not know very much about mental health or competitive sports. Exercise relieves depression and anxiety through multiple biological mechanisms. So does feeling a sense of purpose such as competing on a sport.

Why do you feel entitled to tell everyone else they should abide by your personal risk tolerance? The CDC had relaxed guidelines and the county had followed suit. They did so for a reason. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean no one should follow the new guidelines. Why do you think you know more than the CDC and county officials?

You seem to not understand the very important role that community spread has in changing the risks. Thankfully the people marking decisions do. You need to accept that you are very much a minority. If a swim league or any other organization is operating under national and local guidelines that happen to not match up with your personal risk tolerance, it’s on you to forego participation. PUBLIC health goes both ways. When the Covid situation was uncontrolled/dire and the strain on the healthcare system was great, many people had to do things they didn’t want to do in order to keep everyone safe. This included loss of jobs and/or salary cuts, losing childcare support, not seeing family, not getting to have proper funerals for lost loved ones, and so on. Now we are no longer on a state of public health emergency with Covid. Now we are in a situation where opening back up and reducing restrictions is on the best interest of the public as a whole. If that doesn’t work for you personally then do whatever makes you feel safe. But you cannot expect everyone else to abide by your personal assessment of risk.

I am a parent of two young kids so I do have a dog in this fight. This past year my children have only participated in activities on line with my personal risk tolerance. If I wasn’t comfortable with how a sport or activity was being handled, my kids did not do it. I didn’t call up the organization insisting that they impose rules that were stricter than CDC guidelines just so I could feel safe. This isn’t public school. It’s not mandatory. You need to get over it.

Yes I do. If your kids have mental health issues sports help but not a cure and they need much more. Most people in this swim league are not impacted in the ways you said and if they were they would not be in private swim clubs. You can deny Covid but you are why it’s unsafe for our kids to participate. Doing things like masks given many kids are not able to be vaccinated is not unreasonable. Mine will not participate in meets. We don’t trust others behavior especially the screamers here and in the Facebook group who regularly post their eating out, travel and more and have not been impacted as you claim.

These things are perfectly legal and acceptable. Why is this a problem? Are you making up your own rules?

This poster appears to be a troll, he/she posts the same things in multiple threads stating that people following the CDCs current guidelines are selfish, killing kids, and are the reason that it’s not safe for their kids to do anything. He/she clearly feels a loss of control now that vaccinated people are free to return to life as they knew it pre-Covid. He/she doesn’t listen to the science about the low risk of outdoor transmission, nor do they listen to the science regarding the efficacy of the vaccines and how that makes it safe for the vaccinated to resume their lives unmasked. They are hysterical now that the guidance of health experts no long aligns with their risk assessment, so they lash out here in multiple forums with the same insults over and over toward the people following the current health guidance.

It’s not hysterics and you pretending Covid does not exist is why it spreads. All kids deserve to be safe. Kids under 12 are not vaccinated. Kids 12-16 are just eligible. I don’t want my swimmer getting Covid. If you don’t mind, good for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich’s latest communication says masks in outdoor settings where social distancing is not possible so fully expecting MCSL to require masks. If more kids are allowed to compete with masks on deck , its a price worth paying imo.

Although I tend to agree that masks would be a small price, what Elrich actually said was:

“ Face coverings are no longer required outdoors, but the Maryland Department of Health strongly recommends that all non-vaccinated individuals over the age of 2 years continue to wear face coverings in all indoor settings and in outdoor settings where physical distancing cannot be maintained.”

Also, MCPS no longer requires masks for athletes and spectators at outdoor HS athletic events, regardless of vaccination status.

Nevertheless, since the MCSL board is apparently more risk averse than even Elrich and MCPS, I fully expect masks to be required at swim meets.

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In reverse, if they make them wears masks then social distancing is not required. So they can presumably remove capacity limits?

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Sounds like MCSL reversed course??

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like MCSL reversed course??

Really? Nothing new on their website since Tuesday but something might have been sent to the team reps.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like MCSL reversed course??

Really? Nothing new on their website since Tuesday but something might have been sent to the team reps.

I can’t post an image because I suck but there was an email and yes, they are dropping all restrictions. Common sense prevails.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like MCSL reversed course??

Really? Nothing new on their website since Tuesday but something might have been sent to the team reps.

I can’t post an image because I suck but there was an email and yes, they are dropping all restrictions. Common sense prevails.

Great news, thanks!!

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I just saw a post on IG from a coach that all restrictions are now dropped. Back to regular meets, practices, etc. unless the particular pool decides otherwise due to their own capacity limits, rules, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post on IG from a coach that all restrictions are now dropped. Back to regular meets, practices, etc. unless the particular pool decides otherwise due to their own capacity limits, rules, etc.

Me too! I am sure rules will exist at the pool level but bravo to MCSL for reconsidering given the CDC, state and county guidance.

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What about relays, divisionals etc ?

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Anonymous wrote:What about relays, divisionals etc ?

I don’t think the relay meet is back on. Unclear if the distributed divisional meet is staying or if the regular divisional meet is back on.

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Anonymous wrote:What about relays, divisionals etc ?

I don’t think the relay meet is back on. Unclear if the distributed divisional meet is staying or if the regular divisional meet is back on.

May be tough to find pools willing to host relay carnivals and divisionals with that many people packed in. Even pre-pandemic, lots of neighborhood pools like ours weren’t big enough.