What ever happened to Crown HS?

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Guessing you don't hang at Rio much? I live nearby and I only eat at Rio once-in-a-while - it's pretty expensive. Sure, teachers or families might drop in every once-in-a-while. That will make the after-school parking situation even worse than it is now. If the kid has $20 or $30 to burn on a "cheap" lunch, that's a possibility. Dave and Busters might get a boost - the same way White Flint Mall got a "boost" by attracting fights. If vandalism and theft increases in the communities around Rio, I'm sure that all those families paying half-to-three-quarters of a mil for their townhouses will be overjoyed and thank the board profusely.

Sure, you can mess with the schools parents paying extra for their kids education to live in a top notch school district - just expect to have a new board voted in once they're pissed. You tell a parent "yeah, I know you worked hard to pay 3/4 of a mill for your brand-new townhouse but we're turning it into MS-13 High to promote social justice and give your kid a real-world Life lesson" - see how that works out. Same goes with drawing up boundaries that don't make sense or messing with Magnet programs just so, as a hypothetical example, a board member or MCPS admin can do a solid for 'friends and family'. It's corruption and everyone knows it.

These are the things MCPS never cares about - they're too busy working their own personal agendas. No matter how many 'for-show' boundary studies are conducted, the Crown boundary map will speak for itself. Crown HS will be a premier example of how MCPS rolls and all eyes are on it.

Somehow it's always about property values. Oh, and parking. Parking and property values.

Actually, it is. This is what adults care about. The number one concern of most DC-Area adults is their mortgage and housing prices, with commuting to/from work a close second. If kids parking around the school streets or block roads to work, the adults get upset. If kids cause vandalism or porch pirate packages after school, the adults get upset. When you mess with matters that affect housing prices, you're messing with that adult's retirement fund, and the adults get upset.

If students are bussed from the East side of 270, will there be a line of cars backing up from that direction? Ever make that left-hand-turn from Diamondback from Sam Eig coming from East 270 to the West? What happens if that queue gets long with parents picking up kids on a snowy day? What happens if it backs up all the way to 370? Hmm. Okay, try the other direction - for example, If it affects traffic Shady Grove Road or Key West, for example - where the ambulances need a clear path to and from the hospital?

If RM has $6 lunches nearby? Really? That's great! Most cities with large numbers of workers (RM is by the courthouse and downtown Rockville). Not sure where that will happen around Crown HS? La Madeleine has a few things around $8, &pizza around $10. Maybe the kids can hit the Happy Hour snacks or pound down a drink after school with the teachers at Paladar Latin Kitchen and Rum Bar, Ted's Bulletin, Ruth Chris' Steak House, Old Town Pour House or Coastal Flats?

Also, dystopian is "relating to or denoting an imagined state or society where there is great suffering or injustice" so it's not the correct word. This is a practical matter of whether MCPS properly planned the school or not - especially in morning / afternoon rush once things are fully back to normal. If they haven't, and just shoot off their mouths about how they're going to shift kids around, it affects real-life. It's a direct correlation - nothing dystopian about it (although that is a really cool big word..).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Guessing you don't hang at Rio much? I live nearby and I only eat at Rio once-in-a-while - it's pretty expensive. Sure, teachers or families might drop in every once-in-a-while. That will make the after-school parking situation even worse than it is now. If the kid has $20 or $30 to burn on a "cheap" lunch, that's a possibility. Dave and Busters might get a boost - the same way White Flint Mall got a "boost" by attracting fights. If vandalism and theft increases in the communities around Rio, I'm sure that all those families paying half-to-three-quarters of a mil for their townhouses will be overjoyed and thank the board profusely.

Sure, you can mess with the schools parents paying extra for their kids education to live in a top notch school district - just expect to have a new board voted in once they're pissed. You tell a parent "yeah, I know you worked hard to pay 3/4 of a mill for your brand-new townhouse but we're turning it into MS-13 High to promote social justice and give your kid a real-world Life lesson" - see how that works out. Same goes with drawing up boundaries that don't make sense or messing with Magnet programs just so, as a hypothetical example, a board member or MCPS admin can do a solid for 'friends and family'. It's corruption and everyone knows it.

These are the things MCPS never cares about - they're too busy working their own personal agendas. No matter how many 'for-show' boundary studies are conducted, the Crown boundary map will speak for itself. Crown HS will be a premier example of how MCPS rolls and all eyes are on it.

Somehow it's always about property values. Oh, and parking. Parking and property values.

Actually, it is. This is what adults care about. The number one concern of most DC-Area adults is their mortgage and housing prices, with commuting to/from work a close second. If kids parking around the school streets or block roads to work, the adults get upset. If kids cause vandalism or porch pirate packages after school, the adults get upset. When you mess with matters that affect housing prices, you're messing with that adult's retirement fund, and the adults get upset.

If students are bussed from the East side of 270, will there be a line of cars backing up from that direction? Ever make that left-hand-turn from Diamondback from Sam Eig coming from East 270 to the West? What happens if that queue gets long with parents picking up kids on a snowy day? What happens if it backs up all the way to 370? Hmm. Okay, try the other direction - for example, If it affects traffic Shady Grove Road or Key West, for example - where the ambulances need a clear path to and from the hospital?

If RM has $6 lunches nearby? Really? That's great! Most cities with large numbers of workers (RM is by the courthouse and downtown Rockville). Not sure where that will happen around Crown HS? La Madeleine has a few things around $8, &pizza around $10. Maybe the kids can hit the Happy Hour snacks or pound down a drink after school with the teachers at Paladar Latin Kitchen and Rum Bar, Ted's Bulletin, Ruth Chris' Steak House, Old Town Pour House or Coastal Flats?

Also, dystopian is "relating to or denoting an imagined state or society where there is great suffering or injustice" so it's not the correct word. This is a practical matter of whether MCPS properly planned the school or not - especially in morning / afternoon rush once things are fully back to normal. If they haven't, and just shoot off their mouths about how they're going to shift kids around, it affects real-life. It's a direct correlation - nothing dystopian about it (although that is a really cool big word..).

Except MCPS and MoCo Planning are in a pissing contest just now. Traffic and off site parking are not MCPS's problems any more than overcrowded schools are Planning's problem.

And if Crown has open lunches, plenty of shops in Rio will find a way to cater to the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Guessing you don't hang at Rio much? I live nearby and I only eat at Rio once-in-a-while - it's pretty expensive. Sure, teachers or families might drop in every once-in-a-while. That will make the after-school parking situation even worse than it is now. If the kid has $20 or $30 to burn on a "cheap" lunch, that's a possibility. Dave and Busters might get a boost - the same way White Flint Mall got a "boost" by attracting fights. If vandalism and theft increases in the communities around Rio, I'm sure that all those families paying half-to-three-quarters of a mil for their townhouses will be overjoyed and thank the board profusely.

Sure, you can mess with the schools parents paying extra for their kids education to live in a top notch school district - just expect to have a new board voted in once they're pissed. You tell a parent "yeah, I know you worked hard to pay 3/4 of a mill for your brand-new townhouse but we're turning it into MS-13 High to promote social justice and give your kid a real-world Life lesson" - see how that works out. Same goes with drawing up boundaries that don't make sense or messing with Magnet programs just so, as a hypothetical example, a board member or MCPS admin can do a solid for 'friends and family'. It's corruption and everyone knows it.

These are the things MCPS never cares about - they're too busy working their own personal agendas. No matter how many 'for-show' boundary studies are conducted, the Crown boundary map will speak for itself. Crown HS will be a premier example of how MCPS rolls and all eyes are on it.

Somehow it's always about property values. Oh, and parking. Parking and property values.

Actually, it is. This is what adults care about. The number one concern of most DC-Area adults is their mortgage and housing prices, with commuting to/from work a close second. If kids parking around the school streets or block roads to work, the adults get upset. If kids cause vandalism or porch pirate packages after school, the adults get upset. When you mess with matters that affect housing prices, you're messing with that adult's retirement fund, and the adults get upset.

If students are bussed from the East side of 270, will there be a line of cars backing up from that direction? Ever make that left-hand-turn from Diamondback from Sam Eig coming from East 270 to the West? What happens if that queue gets long with parents picking up kids on a snowy day? What happens if it backs up all the way to 370? Hmm. Okay, try the other direction - for example, If it affects traffic Shady Grove Road or Key West, for example - where the ambulances need a clear path to and from the hospital?

If RM has $6 lunches nearby? Really? That's great! Most cities with large numbers of workers (RM is by the courthouse and downtown Rockville). Not sure where that will happen around Crown HS? La Madeleine has a few things around $8, &pizza around $10. Maybe the kids can hit the Happy Hour snacks or pound down a drink after school with the teachers at Paladar Latin Kitchen and Rum Bar, Ted's Bulletin, Ruth Chris' Steak House, Old Town Pour House or Coastal Flats?

Also, dystopian is "relating to or denoting an imagined state or society where there is great suffering or injustice" so it's not the correct word. This is a practical matter of whether MCPS properly planned the school or not - especially in morning / afternoon rush once things are fully back to normal. If they haven't, and just shoot off their mouths about how they're going to shift kids around, it affects real-life. It's a direct correlation - nothing dystopian about it (although that is a really cool big word..).

Except MCPS and MoCo Planning are in a pissing contest just now. Traffic and off site parking are not MCPS's problems any more than overcrowded schools are Planning's problem.

And if Crown has open lunches, plenty of shops in Rio will find a way to cater to the students.

Why do you think it's not a MCPS' issue? MCPS makes the decisions and assumes the full responsibility for their actions. If people don't like their decisions, they're free to vote out the board.

And all that matters to you is cheap off-site lunch? Hmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Guessing you don't hang at Rio much? I live nearby and I only eat at Rio once-in-a-while - it's pretty expensive. Sure, teachers or families might drop in every once-in-a-while. That will make the after-school parking situation even worse than it is now. If the kid has $20 or $30 to burn on a "cheap" lunch, that's a possibility. Dave and Busters might get a boost - the same way White Flint Mall got a "boost" by attracting fights. If vandalism and theft increases in the communities around Rio, I'm sure that all those families paying half-to-three-quarters of a mil for their townhouses will be overjoyed and thank the board profusely.

Sure, you can mess with the schools parents paying extra for their kids education to live in a top notch school district - just expect to have a new board voted in once they're pissed. You tell a parent "yeah, I know you worked hard to pay 3/4 of a mill for your brand-new townhouse but we're turning it into MS-13 High to promote social justice and give your kid a real-world Life lesson" - see how that works out. Same goes with drawing up boundaries that don't make sense or messing with Magnet programs just so, as a hypothetical example, a board member or MCPS admin can do a solid for 'friends and family'. It's corruption and everyone knows it.

These are the things MCPS never cares about - they're too busy working their own personal agendas. No matter how many 'for-show' boundary studies are conducted, the Crown boundary map will speak for itself. Crown HS will be a premier example of how MCPS rolls and all eyes are on it.

Somehow it's always about property values. Oh, and parking. Parking and property values.

Actually, it is. This is what adults care about. The number one concern of most DC-Area adults is their mortgage and housing prices, with commuting to/from work a close second. If kids parking around the school streets or block roads to work, the adults get upset. If kids cause vandalism or porch pirate packages after school, the adults get upset. When you mess with matters that affect housing prices, you're messing with that adult's retirement fund, and the adults get upset.

If students are bussed from the East side of 270, will there be a line of cars backing up from that direction? Ever make that left-hand-turn from Diamondback from Sam Eig coming from East 270 to the West? What happens if that queue gets long with parents picking up kids on a snowy day? What happens if it backs up all the way to 370? Hmm. Okay, try the other direction - for example, If it affects traffic Shady Grove Road or Key West, for example - where the ambulances need a clear path to and from the hospital?

If RM has $6 lunches nearby? Really? That's great! Most cities with large numbers of workers (RM is by the courthouse and downtown Rockville). Not sure where that will happen around Crown HS? La Madeleine has a few things around $8, &pizza around $10. Maybe the kids can hit the Happy Hour snacks or pound down a drink after school with the teachers at Paladar Latin Kitchen and Rum Bar, Ted's Bulletin, Ruth Chris' Steak House, Old Town Pour House or Coastal Flats?

Also, dystopian is "relating to or denoting an imagined state or society where there is great suffering or injustice" so it's not the correct word. This is a practical matter of whether MCPS properly planned the school or not - especially in morning / afternoon rush once things are fully back to normal. If they haven't, and just shoot off their mouths about how they're going to shift kids around, it affects real-life. It's a direct correlation - nothing dystopian about it (although that is a really cool big word..).

Except MCPS and MoCo Planning are in a pissing contest just now. Traffic and off site parking are not MCPS's problems any more than overcrowded schools are Planning's problem.

And if Crown has open lunches, plenty of shops in Rio will find a way to cater to the students.

Why do you think it's not a MCPS' issue? MCPS makes the decisions and assumes the full responsibility for their actions. If people don't like their decisions, they're free to vote out the board.

And all that matters to you is cheap off-site lunch? Hmm.

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

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I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Across the street from the HS there are some small TW. They won't rezone that neighborhood for sure.

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I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

They will likely get bussed to a closer high-school like Whitman or Churchill. It will save the county money by reducing transportation costs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

If you are currently in the Wootton walk zone, you will stay a walker. If you are currently a bus rider, you will stay a bus rider, but your bus could go to an adjacent school after rezoning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Except MCPS and MoCo Planning are in a pissing contest just now. Traffic and off site parking are not MCPS's problems any more than overcrowded schools are Planning's problem.

And if Crown has open lunches, plenty of shops in Rio will find a way to cater to the students.

Why do you think it's not a MCPS' issue? MCPS makes the decisions and assumes the full responsibility for their actions. If people don't like their decisions, they're free to vote out the board.

And all that matters to you is cheap off-site lunch? Hmm.

MCPS is responsible for teaching kids and building the schools needed for that. Planning is responsible for residential construction and transportation infrastructure (among other things, of course, but that's what most directly affects schools). Once upon a time, MCPS and MNCPPC tried to work together to steer things in a mutually beneficial way.

After years of griping about the school system not addressing or balancing over- and under-utilization of schools, the Planning Board removed the possibility of putting a school or cluster into a residential building moratorium. Equally, MCPS doesn't give more than lip-service about any traffic or off-site parking issues their schools may create; schools go where MCPS wants, with predictable traffic -and Planning better deal with it because Planning doesn't have the jurisdiction to change it.

Leaving us stuck in this pissing contest between the two.

And as to Rio and cheap lunches - that's just a prediction of free enterprise doing it's thing: if students come, they'll cater to them. I've put a whole lot more effort trying to get MCPS and MNCPPC to work together. Eateries don't need my help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

Safe? Safe from what dangers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

Safe? Safe from what dangers?

Danger of kids being the first batch of a brand new high school and being ripped off

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

Safe? Safe from what dangers?

Danger of kids being the first batch of a brand new high school and being ripped off

Ripped off? What would they be cheated/defrauded of? Having an old, run-down building instead of a brand-new one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

Safe? Safe from what dangers?

Danger of kids being the first batch of a brand new high school and being ripped off

Ripped off? What would they be cheated/defrauded of? Having an old, run-down building instead of a brand-new one?

+1 some of you are seriously ridiculous.

Should we NEVER have any boundary redrawn? Should we never build new schools to address the population growth? What should be done about overcrowded schools? Does it make any sense to have one school over capacity and an adjacent school be under capacity?

Everyone else can move but my neighborhood. NIMBYism at its finest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m seriously thinking about moving. Where in Wootton district is not susceptible to busing to other district? Or maybe have to go to Churchill

Nobody in the Wootton service area will get bused to a high school in a different service area, unless they're in a magnet program.

On the other hand, it is likely that the boundaries of the Wootton service area will change as a result of the Crown HS boundary study, since Wootton will be included in the Crown HS boundary study. But in that case, the people bused to a different high school won't be in the Wootton service area, they'll be in the service area for that high school.

Looks like you typed so much for nothing. Of course the question is asking where in current Wootton service area would be safe

Safe? Safe from what dangers?

Danger of kids being the first batch of a brand new high school and being ripped off

Ripped off? What would they be cheated/defrauded of? Having an old, run-down building instead of a brand-new one?

+1 some of you are seriously ridiculous.

Should we NEVER have any boundary redrawn? Should we never build new schools to address the population growth? What should be done about overcrowded schools? Does it make any sense to have one school over capacity and an adjacent school be under capacity?

Everyone else can move but my neighborhood. NIMBYism at its finest.

Redrawing because of overcrowding is understandable, redrawing to balance farm rate is not