What ever happened to Crown HS?

[Anonymous]

Is it still opening in 2026?

[Anonymous]

Yes, that's the current plan:

Expenditures are programmed in the six-year period to open a new high school on the Crown Farm site to address overutilization in the midcounty region. Although an FY  2019 appropriation for planning was requested by the Board of Education for this new school, the County Council delayed the funds by one year to begin in FY  2020. An FY  2020 appropriation was approved for planning to begin the architectural design for this project with a completion date of September 2025. However, as part of the FY  2021–2026 CIP, the County Council delayed the expenditures and completion date to September 2026. An appropriation for construction funding will be requested in the next full CIP. In order for this project to be completed on time, county and state funding must be provided at the levels recommended in this CIP.

[Anonymous]

Why wasn't Crown included in the boundary study? It will take that long to do the study, so shouldn't it be included?

[Anonymous]

There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why wasn't Crown included in the boundary study? It will take that long to do the study, so shouldn't it be included?

The Boundary Analysis only covered existing schools. There are no Crown boundaries to analyze. The data collected for the analysis will be used when they set the Crown boundaries.

(This being DCUM, I have to add an unfounded rumor about busing Einstein kids to Crown, 'cause the BofE said that's the FAA policy, right? )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

No, that's the usual practice.

For RM ES #(whatever it was; now Bayard Rustin ES), the BoE modified the scope of the boundary study on November 3, 2016, at a CIP work session (by adding Twinbrook ES); the kick-off public meeting was February 28, 2017, the BoE adopted the boundaries on November 27, 2017, and the school opened in August 2018.

Boundary studies with more angry people don't necessarily take longer; they just involve more hollering.

[Anonymous]

Go by the site. They are doing the excavation work now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

That means MCPS will start the boundary analysis in late 2024 or early 25 in order to start in Fall 26? Yikes. 2022 seems more realistic unless MCPS is just railroading it through? But they'd still need to pick the teachers at least a year before to prepare, and planning curriculum / courses least a year before that to know what teachers they need. 2022 seems like the latest they can start on this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

That means MCPS will start the boundary analysis in late 2024 or early 25 in order to start in Fall 26? Yikes. 2022 seems more realistic unless MCPS is just railroading it through? But they'd still need to pick the teachers at least a year before to prepare, and planning curriculum / courses least a year before that to know what teachers they need. 2022 seems like the latest they can start on this?

No, they wait until construction has progressed enough so that they have a firm idea of the opening date. If it's set to open in late August 2026, then typically a boundary study would begin in early 2025, the superintendent's recommended option would come out in Fall 2025, and the board would vote on the new boundaries in late November 2025. That gives the new principal enough time to hire staff in early 2026.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

That means MCPS will start the boundary analysis in late 2024 or early 25 in order to start in Fall 26? Yikes. 2022 seems more realistic unless MCPS is just railroading it through? But they'd still need to pick the teachers at least a year before to prepare, and planning curriculum / courses least a year before that to know what teachers they need. 2022 seems like the latest they can start on this?

No, not yikes. Standard practice for every boundary study. You can read up on it here: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/boundary.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

That means MCPS will start the boundary analysis in late 2024 or early 25 in order to start in Fall 26? Yikes. 2022 seems more realistic unless MCPS is just railroading it through? But they'd still need to pick the teachers at least a year before to prepare, and planning curriculum / courses least a year before that to know what teachers they need. 2022 seems like the latest they can start on this?

Would you clarify this comment a bit?

English teachers will teach English; math teachers will teach math; science teachers will teach science, and so on. The teachers will likely come from current MCPS high schools. They wouldn't need to re-invent the wheel just because it's a new school, right?

Or am I missing something obvious?

The principal at Bayard Rustin ES was announced a few months before it opened. She came from within MCPS. The teachers were then "hired," but most came from within MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

That means MCPS will start the boundary analysis in late 2024 or early 25 in order to start in Fall 26? Yikes. 2022 seems more realistic unless MCPS is just railroading it through? But they'd still need to pick the teachers at least a year before to prepare, and planning curriculum / courses least a year before that to know what teachers they need. 2022 seems like the latest they can start on this?

Would you clarify this comment a bit?

English teachers will teach English; math teachers will teach math; science teachers will teach science, and so on. The teachers will likely come from current MCPS high schools. They wouldn't need to re-invent the wheel just because it's a new school, right?

Or am I missing something obvious?

The principal at Bayard Rustin ES was announced a few months before it opened. She came from within MCPS. The teachers were then "hired," but most came from within MCPS.

Bayard Rustin ES has between 30 to 40 teachers, right? The average HS has over a hundred. If you remove a hundred teachers from the rest of MCPS, their replacements have to come form somewhere. If there are a hundred high-quality HS teachers sitting around and just waiting for a job announcement, that's possible I guess?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a boundary study that starts about 18 months before Crown is expected to open, to decide on the Crown boundaries.

Isn't 18 months optimistic? I feel like even the new RM elementary school boundaries took longer than that... And there will be 10 times as many angry people when it comes to Crown.

That means MCPS will start the boundary analysis in late 2024 or early 25 in order to start in Fall 26? Yikes. 2022 seems more realistic unless MCPS is just railroading it through? But they'd still need to pick the teachers at least a year before to prepare, and planning curriculum / courses least a year before that to know what teachers they need. 2022 seems like the latest they can start on this?

Would you clarify this comment a bit?

English teachers will teach English; math teachers will teach math; science teachers will teach science, and so on. The teachers will likely come from current MCPS high schools. They wouldn't need to re-invent the wheel just because it's a new school, right?

Or am I missing something obvious?

The principal at Bayard Rustin ES was announced a few months before it opened. She came from within MCPS. The teachers were then "hired," but most came from within MCPS.

Bayard Rustin ES has between 30 to 40 teachers, right? The average HS has over a hundred. If you remove a hundred teachers from the rest of MCPS, their replacements have to come form somewhere. If there are a hundred high-quality HS teachers sitting around and just waiting for a job announcement, that's possible I guess?

There are absolutely 100+ HS teachers who will want to transfer to a brand new school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Bayard Rustin ES has between 30 to 40 teachers, right? The average HS has over a hundred. If you remove a hundred teachers from the rest of MCPS, their replacements have to come form somewhere. If there are a hundred high-quality HS teachers sitting around and just waiting for a job announcement, that's possible I guess?

PP, like any other employer, MCPS has turnover in its workforce. People retire, people quit, people transfer, people get promoted, people get hired. How do you think that works?