Georgia Senate voting to end absentee balloting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people freaking out about GA's law are nothing more than Henny Pennys. Seems as if some are upset that it will just be harder to cheat.

Georgia’s new law leaves in place Sunday voting, a point of contention with earlier proposals, given that black churches have a “souls to the polls” tradition after services. The Legislature, rather, decided to expand weekend early voting statewide, by requiring two Saturdays instead of only one under current law. In total, Georgia offers three weeks of early voting, which began last year on Oct. 12. This is not exactly restrictive: Compare that with early voting that started Oct. 24 last year in New York.

The new law also leaves in place no-excuses absentee voting. Every eligible Georgia voter will continue to be allowed to request a mail ballot for the sake of simple convenience—or for no reason at all. Again, this is hardly restrictive: More than a dozen states, including Connecticut and Delaware, require mail voters to give a valid excuse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-eagle-and-georgias-voting-law-11616799451

And, the title of this thread needs to be changed since there is no "end to absentee balloting."

They tightened restrictions across the board. Removing drop-off boxes, reducing the number of early voting days, reducing the lag time of USPS pail in ballots when the USPS is a cluster Eff. are all things that limit turnout, or vote collection. Add to it, when there is only one polling place in majority AA communities with just 2 or 1 voting machines, that creates long lines. If the line is more than an hours (and in many cases it can be 5, 6, 8 hours long) and the voters lose their place in line if they get thirty, then that is suppression.

So either ensure that people have shorter line, or else allow people to make sure voters don't pass out trying to vote.

The fascists here will be ignoring your post, as it is full of facts and proof that this isn’t about “making elections safer,” but about preventing Democrats from voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people freaking out about GA's law are nothing more than Henny Pennys. Seems as if some are upset that it will just be harder to cheat.

Georgia’s new law leaves in place Sunday voting, a point of contention with earlier proposals, given that black churches have a “souls to the polls” tradition after services. The Legislature, rather, decided to expand weekend early voting statewide, by requiring two Saturdays instead of only one under current law. In total, Georgia offers three weeks of early voting, which began last year on Oct. 12. This is not exactly restrictive: Compare that with early voting that started Oct. 24 last year in New York.

The new law also leaves in place no-excuses absentee voting. Every eligible Georgia voter will continue to be allowed to request a mail ballot for the sake of simple convenience—or for no reason at all. Again, this is hardly restrictive: More than a dozen states, including Connecticut and Delaware, require mail voters to give a valid excuse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-eagle-and-georgias-voting-law-11616799451

And, the title of this thread needs to be changed since there is no "end to absentee balloting."

What exactly necessitated this law and why is illegal to give people waiting in line food and water?

The 2020 election was a mess in GA, in case you hadn't noticed. If the people in GA, and nationally, cannot have faith in the veracity of the vote, there are issues. The same is true in other states that should be scrutinizing their own election laws and procedures.
https://www.georgiapolicy.org/issue/georgias-election-mess/

And, the food and water issue...... electioneering laws. Providing people in line with goods opens up the possibility of campaigning to people in line. It is prohibited.
If people want food or water, they are welcome to bring their own.

It's actually incredibly easy to write a law that permits you giving food and water to people in line without allowing for electioneering. If you're not visibly associated with a campaign, not discussing issues, etc. you can give out water. If they're THAT concerned, fund enough voting locations to make it so people don't have to wait in line, but they don't do that. They pass an "electioneering" law that makes it illegal to give out water without electioneering, because it's all obviously pretense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people freaking out about GA's law are nothing more than Henny Pennys. Seems as if some are upset that it will just be harder to cheat.

Georgia’s new law leaves in place Sunday voting, a point of contention with earlier proposals, given that black churches have a “souls to the polls” tradition after services. The Legislature, rather, decided to expand weekend early voting statewide, by requiring two Saturdays instead of only one under current law. In total, Georgia offers three weeks of early voting, which began last year on Oct. 12. This is not exactly restrictive: Compare that with early voting that started Oct. 24 last year in New York.

The new law also leaves in place no-excuses absentee voting. Every eligible Georgia voter will continue to be allowed to request a mail ballot for the sake of simple convenience—or for no reason at all. Again, this is hardly restrictive: More than a dozen states, including Connecticut and Delaware, require mail voters to give a valid excuse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-eagle-and-georgias-voting-law-11616799451

And, the title of this thread needs to be changed since there is no "end to absentee balloting."

They tightened restrictions across the board. Removing drop-off boxes, reducing the number of early voting days, reducing the lag time of USPS pail in ballots when the USPS is a cluster Eff. are all things that limit turnout, or vote collection. Add to it, when there is only one polling place in majority AA communities with just 2 or 1 voting machines, that creates long lines. If the line is more than an hours (and in many cases it can be 5, 6, 8 hours long) and the voters lose their place in line if they get thirty, then that is suppression.

So either ensure that people have shorter line, or else allow people to make sure voters don't pass out trying to vote.

The fascists here will be ignoring your post, as it is full of facts and proof that this isn’t about “making elections safer,” but about preventing Democrats from voting.

Here we have the "fascist" poster again. Lady - you don't know the meaning of the word.

Why can't y'all make it easier to vote?

[Anonymous]

Regarding that water and food thing......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Exactly. Democrats, stop degrading poor people. Poor people are resourceful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Exactly. Democrats, stop degrading poor people. Poor people are resourceful.

Yes! Let’s put more barriers in their way so that they can show off how resourceful they are! 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regarding that water and food thing......

It also applies within 25 feet of anyone standing in line to vote, whether they're within 150 feet of the polling place or not. I know it's hard to believe that Ari Fleischer might lie, but here we are.

[Anonymous]

How is it legal to impose multi-hour wait times at polls on people in cities but not impose the same wait times on people in more rural area? How is it legal to have higher per capita number of polling booths in more rural areas?

Black people in Atlanta wait 8x longer at polls in Atlanta than white people outside the major cities.

Clear cases of disparate impact. It really is Jim Crow 2.0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people freaking out about GA's law are nothing more than Henny Pennys. Seems as if some are upset that it will just be harder to cheat.

Georgia’s new law leaves in place Sunday voting, a point of contention with earlier proposals, given that black churches have a “souls to the polls” tradition after services. The Legislature, rather, decided to expand weekend early voting statewide, by requiring two Saturdays instead of only one under current law. In total, Georgia offers three weeks of early voting, which began last year on Oct. 12. This is not exactly restrictive: Compare that with early voting that started Oct. 24 last year in New York.

The new law also leaves in place no-excuses absentee voting. Every eligible Georgia voter will continue to be allowed to request a mail ballot for the sake of simple convenience—or for no reason at all. Again, this is hardly restrictive: More than a dozen states, including Connecticut and Delaware, require mail voters to give a valid excuse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-eagle-and-georgias-voting-law-11616799451

And, the title of this thread needs to be changed since there is no "end to absentee balloting."

What exactly necessitated this law and why is illegal to give people waiting in line food and water?

The 2020 election was a mess in GA, in case you hadn't noticed. If the people in GA, and nationally, cannot have faith in the veracity of the vote, there are issues. The same is true in other states that should be scrutinizing their own election laws and procedures.
https://www.georgiapolicy.org/issue/georgias-election-mess/

And, the food and water issue...... electioneering laws. Providing people in line with goods opens up the possibility of campaigning to people in line. It is prohibited.
If people want food or water, they are welcome to bring their own.

Please provide evidence that the 2020 election in Georgia was “a mess,” because plenty of people have claimed this without any proof. If they had been able to count mail in ballots before Election Day it would have been perfectly smooth - does this legislation fix that? And if there are people who don’t “have faith in the veracity of the vote,” it’s because they’re listening to people like you who have been lying nonstop about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people freaking out about GA's law are nothing more than Henny Pennys. Seems as if some are upset that it will just be harder to cheat.

Georgia’s new law leaves in place Sunday voting, a point of contention with earlier proposals, given that black churches have a “souls to the polls” tradition after services. The Legislature, rather, decided to expand weekend early voting statewide, by requiring two Saturdays instead of only one under current law. In total, Georgia offers three weeks of early voting, which began last year on Oct. 12. This is not exactly restrictive: Compare that with early voting that started Oct. 24 last year in New York.

The new law also leaves in place no-excuses absentee voting. Every eligible Georgia voter will continue to be allowed to request a mail ballot for the sake of simple convenience—or for no reason at all. Again, this is hardly restrictive: More than a dozen states, including Connecticut and Delaware, require mail voters to give a valid excuse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-eagle-and-georgias-voting-law-11616799451

And, the title of this thread needs to be changed since there is no "end to absentee balloting."

What exactly necessitated this law and why is illegal to give people waiting in line food and water?

The 2020 election was a mess in GA, in case you hadn't noticed. If the people in GA, and nationally, cannot have faith in the veracity of the vote, there are issues. The same is true in other states that should be scrutinizing their own election laws and procedures.
https://www.georgiapolicy.org/issue/georgias-election-mess/

And, the food and water issue...... electioneering laws. Providing people in line with goods opens up the possibility of campaigning to people in line. It is prohibited.
If people want food or water, they are welcome to bring their own.

Please provide evidence that the 2020 election in Georgia was “a mess,” because plenty of people have claimed this without any proof. If they had been able to count mail in ballots before Election Day it would have been perfectly smooth - does this legislation fix that? And if there are people who don’t “have faith in the veracity of the vote,” it’s because they’re listening to people like you who have been lying nonstop about it.

Yes.

(2)(A) Beginning at 8:00 A.M. on the third Monday prior to After the opening of the polls on the day of the primary, election, or runoff, the registrars or absentee ballot clerks election superintendent shall be authorized to open the outer oath envelope on which is printed the oath of the elector of absentee ballots that have been verified and accepted pursuant to subparagraph (a)(1)(B) of this Code section, in such a manner as not to destroy the oath printed thereon; provided, however, that the registrars or absentee ballot clerk shall not be authorized to remove the contents of such outer envelope, or to open the inner envelope marked 'Official Absentee Ballot,' except as otherwise provided in this Code section and scan the absentee ballot using one or more ballot scanners. At least three persons who are registrars, deputy registrars, poll workers, or absentee ballot clerks must be present before commencing; and three persons who are registrars, deputy registrars, or absentee ballot clerks shall be present at all times while the outer absentee ballot envelopes are being opened and the absentee ballots are being scanned.

P. 65 of the document here: https://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/59827

[Anonymous]

And, the GA law states this:

This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing 1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors 1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely 1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from 1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in 1889 line to vote."

So, provide a water station for anyone heading to the polls. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Exactly. Democrats, stop degrading poor people. Poor people are resourceful.

Yes! Let’s put more barriers in their way so that they can show off how resourceful they are! 🙄

What barrier? There’s an election. Poor people can vote. What’s your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Exactly. Democrats, stop degrading poor people. Poor people are resourceful.

Yes! Let’s put more barriers in their way so that they can show off how resourceful they are! 🙄

What barrier? There’s an election. Poor people can vote. What’s your point?

Only if they meet GOP reauirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Exactly. Democrats, stop degrading poor people. Poor people are resourceful.

Yes! Let’s put more barriers in their way so that they can show off how resourceful they are! 🙄

What barrier? There’s an election. Poor people can vote. What’s your point?

Only if they meet GOP reauirements.

Requirements set by the legislature. As it should be.
Read about some of the changes and how they actually HELP people vote.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people freaking out about GA's law are nothing more than Henny Pennys. Seems as if some are upset that it will just be harder to cheat.

Georgia’s new law leaves in place Sunday voting, a point of contention with earlier proposals, given that black churches have a “souls to the polls” tradition after services. The Legislature, rather, decided to expand weekend early voting statewide, by requiring two Saturdays instead of only one under current law. In total, Georgia offers three weeks of early voting, which began last year on Oct. 12. This is not exactly restrictive: Compare that with early voting that started Oct. 24 last year in New York.

The new law also leaves in place no-excuses absentee voting. Every eligible Georgia voter will continue to be allowed to request a mail ballot for the sake of simple convenience—or for no reason at all. Again, this is hardly restrictive: More than a dozen states, including Connecticut and Delaware, require mail voters to give a valid excuse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-eagle-and-georgias-voting-law-11616799451

And, the title of this thread needs to be changed since there is no "end to absentee balloting."

What exactly necessitated this law and why is illegal to give people waiting in line food and water?

The 2020 election was a mess in GA, in case you hadn't noticed. If the people in GA, and nationally, cannot have faith in the veracity of the vote, there are issues. The same is true in other states that should be scrutinizing their own election laws and procedures.
https://www.georgiapolicy.org/issue/georgias-election-mess/

And, the food and water issue...... electioneering laws. Providing people in line with goods opens up the possibility of campaigning to people in line. It is prohibited.
If people want food or water, they are welcome to bring their own.

Please provide evidence that the 2020 election in Georgia was “a mess,” because plenty of people have claimed this without any proof. If they had been able to count mail in ballots before Election Day it would have been perfectly smooth - does this legislation fix that? And if there are people who don’t “have faith in the veracity of the vote,” it’s because they’re listening to people like you who have been lying nonstop about it.

Yes, indeed.

"Among complaints about the 2020 election was how long it took for some counties to release their final vote totals, how others missed batches of ballots the first time and general confusion about why the process is not over on election night.

A change local officials embrace is a section that allows them to begin processing, but not tabulating, absentee ballots starting two weeks before the election. There's extra incentive to do so, by way of a new requirement that counties count all of the ballots nonstop as soon as polls close and finish by 5 p.m. the next day or potentially face investigation."

https://www.gpb.org/news/2021/03/26/what-does-georgias-new-voting-law-sb-202-do