Will fall 2021 mean full IP classes?

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

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You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

Gotta love these teachers who are suddenly anti-science when the medical profession tells them it's time to go to work.

Right? And when they come up against this research, generally they begin relying on intuition and a notion of "common sense," as though these two things are more important than expertise and data. I understand why it feels like common sense that schools are dangerous disease vectors. Indeed, I thought that was the case at the beginning of all of this. But the data show us otherwise.

We like to rely on intuition and common sense. This is how we make the majority of our decisions. It is often correct, but not always. Intuition and "common sense" lead us to the wrong conclusion about the safety of school reopening.

It is a mark of critical thinking to be able to observe that your intuition is wrong and revise your own conclusions when presented with evidence. My disappointment here is the number of educators who apparently lack the critical thinking skills to revise their own thoughts. Their willingness to throw out evidence and data when it conflicts with common sense. My concern is that teachers who lack critical thinking skills are unable to teach children to think.

This is very thoughtful. True that so many intelligent people will not listen to the research (not just teachers but parents too). It is not a lack of critical thinking I believe, but fear, distrust of government and not wanting to let go of intuition when physical safety is at stake. Many very smart people hold onto these views. I agree with you that they are wrong not to consider the evidence, but I do not think in many cases that critical thinking skills are generally lacking. As for teachers I think that there is a conflict of interest for some in their thinking because it is natural that many would want to play it safe, as many of us are. Risk in a school is very low when proper precautions are taken but it is not zero.

Risk is not very low in schools, even when proper precautions are taken. It is moderate. The research doesn't say it is very low - the editorialized interpretations do. Our critical thinking skills are less clouded by fear than yours are clouded by the panic of having your kids learning from home, which we have all seen expressed in videos and interviews and posts here, but which, admittedly, I find a bit hard to empathize with. Your pseudo-empathetic projection of a refusal to let go of intuition, and hold onto what seems 'common sense' is funny and cute. It is hard to be mad with your bullshit when you speak in such a sweet tone about us. Happy Valentine's Day.

Are you the “honey” poster who says we’ll be virtual until 2022?

I think she's the poster who blithely dismisses any expert analysis of the data as "editorials", but never offers anything substantial on the issue to support her opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

Gotta love these teachers who are suddenly anti-science when the medical profession tells them it's time to go to work.

Right? And when they come up against this research, generally they begin relying on intuition and a notion of "common sense," as though these two things are more important than expertise and data. I understand why it feels like common sense that schools are dangerous disease vectors. Indeed, I thought that was the case at the beginning of all of this. But the data show us otherwise.

We like to rely on intuition and common sense. This is how we make the majority of our decisions. It is often correct, but not always. Intuition and "common sense" lead us to the wrong conclusion about the safety of school reopening.

It is a mark of critical thinking to be able to observe that your intuition is wrong and revise your own conclusions when presented with evidence. My disappointment here is the number of educators who apparently lack the critical thinking skills to revise their own thoughts. Their willingness to throw out evidence and data when it conflicts with common sense. My concern is that teachers who lack critical thinking skills are unable to teach children to think.

This is very thoughtful. True that so many intelligent people will not listen to the research (not just teachers but parents too). It is not a lack of critical thinking I believe, but fear, distrust of government and not wanting to let go of intuition when physical safety is at stake. Many very smart people hold onto these views. I agree with you that they are wrong not to consider the evidence, but I do not think in many cases that critical thinking skills are generally lacking. As for teachers I think that there is a conflict of interest for some in their thinking because it is natural that many would want to play it safe, as many of us are. Risk in a school is very low when proper precautions are taken but it is not zero.

Risk is not very low in schools, even when proper precautions are taken. It is moderate. The research doesn't say it is very low - the editorialized interpretations do. Our critical thinking skills are less clouded by fear than yours are clouded by the panic of having your kids learning from home, which we have all seen expressed in videos and interviews and posts here, but which, admittedly, I find a bit hard to empathize with. Your pseudo-empathetic projection of a refusal to let go of intuition, and hold onto what seems 'common sense' is funny and cute. It is hard to be mad with your bullshit when you speak in such a sweet tone about us. Happy Valentine's Day.

Link me to something official which backs up what you're saying.

I don't have a child, so no need to worry about my panic level.

Here's Fauci saying "“It's less likely for a child to get infected in the school setting than if they were just in the community,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fauci-backs-cdc-s-school-reopening-plan-we-need-try-n1256060

Now if you're like "I don't like the JAMA synthesis paper, despite the fact that there are no inconsistencies with the underlying research," then please feel free to write them with your credentials and your own interpretation.

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

Gotta love these teachers who are suddenly anti-science when the medical profession tells them it's time to go to work.

Right? And when they come up against this research, generally they begin relying on intuition and a notion of "common sense," as though these two things are more important than expertise and data. I understand why it feels like common sense that schools are dangerous disease vectors. Indeed, I thought that was the case at the beginning of all of this. But the data show us otherwise.

We like to rely on intuition and common sense. This is how we make the majority of our decisions. It is often correct, but not always. Intuition and "common sense" lead us to the wrong conclusion about the safety of school reopening.

It is a mark of critical thinking to be able to observe that your intuition is wrong and revise your own conclusions when presented with evidence. My disappointment here is the number of educators who apparently lack the critical thinking skills to revise their own thoughts. Their willingness to throw out evidence and data when it conflicts with common sense. My concern is that teachers who lack critical thinking skills are unable to teach children to think.

This is very thoughtful. True that so many intelligent people will not listen to the research (not just teachers but parents too). It is not a lack of critical thinking I believe, but fear, distrust of government and not wanting to let go of intuition when physical safety is at stake. Many very smart people hold onto these views. I agree with you that they are wrong not to consider the evidence, but I do not think in many cases that critical thinking skills are generally lacking. As for teachers I think that there is a conflict of interest for some in their thinking because it is natural that many would want to play it safe, as many of us are. Risk in a school is very low when proper precautions are taken but it is not zero.

Risk is not very low in schools, even when proper precautions are taken. It is moderate. The research doesn't say it is very low - the editorialized interpretations do. Our critical thinking skills are less clouded by fear than yours are clouded by the panic of having your kids learning from home, which we have all seen expressed in videos and interviews and posts here, but which, admittedly, I find a bit hard to empathize with. Your pseudo-empathetic projection of a refusal to let go of intuition, and hold onto what seems 'common sense' is funny and cute. It is hard to be mad with your bullshit when you speak in such a sweet tone about us. Happy Valentine's Day.

Link me to something official which backs up what you're saying.

I don't have a child, so no need to worry about my panic level.

Here's Fauci saying "“It's less likely for a child to get infected in the school setting than if they were just in the community,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fauci-backs-cdc-s-school-reopening-plan-we-need-try-n1256060

Now if you're like "I don't like the JAMA synthesis paper, despite the fact that there are no inconsistencies with the underlying research," then please feel free to write them with your credentials and your own interpretation.

Wow so Fauci on TV is going to impress someone who isn't impressed by a viewpoint editorial in a medical journal?

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

Gotta love these teachers who are suddenly anti-science when the medical profession tells them it's time to go to work.

Right? And when they come up against this research, generally they begin relying on intuition and a notion of "common sense," as though these two things are more important than expertise and data. I understand why it feels like common sense that schools are dangerous disease vectors. Indeed, I thought that was the case at the beginning of all of this. But the data show us otherwise.

We like to rely on intuition and common sense. This is how we make the majority of our decisions. It is often correct, but not always. Intuition and "common sense" lead us to the wrong conclusion about the safety of school reopening.

It is a mark of critical thinking to be able to observe that your intuition is wrong and revise your own conclusions when presented with evidence. My disappointment here is the number of educators who apparently lack the critical thinking skills to revise their own thoughts. Their willingness to throw out evidence and data when it conflicts with common sense. My concern is that teachers who lack critical thinking skills are unable to teach children to think.

This is very thoughtful. True that so many intelligent people will not listen to the research (not just teachers but parents too). It is not a lack of critical thinking I believe, but fear, distrust of government and not wanting to let go of intuition when physical safety is at stake. Many very smart people hold onto these views. I agree with you that they are wrong not to consider the evidence, but I do not think in many cases that critical thinking skills are generally lacking. As for teachers I think that there is a conflict of interest for some in their thinking because it is natural that many would want to play it safe, as many of us are. Risk in a school is very low when proper precautions are taken but it is not zero.

Risk is not very low in schools, even when proper precautions are taken. It is moderate. The research doesn't say it is very low - the editorialized interpretations do. Our critical thinking skills are less clouded by fear than yours are clouded by the panic of having your kids learning from home, which we have all seen expressed in videos and interviews and posts here, but which, admittedly, I find a bit hard to empathize with. Your pseudo-empathetic projection of a refusal to let go of intuition, and hold onto what seems 'common sense' is funny and cute. It is hard to be mad with your bullshit when you speak in such a sweet tone about us. Happy Valentine's Day.

Link me to something official which backs up what you're saying.

I don't have a child, so no need to worry about my panic level.

Here's Fauci saying "“It's less likely for a child to get infected in the school setting than if they were just in the community,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fauci-backs-cdc-s-school-reopening-plan-we-need-try-n1256060

Now if you're like "I don't like the JAMA synthesis paper, despite the fact that there are no inconsistencies with the underlying research," then please feel free to write them with your credentials and your own interpretation.

She cannot, and has never in any of her pretty recognizable posts. All she can do is strut about condescendingly and imply that anyone who wants schools open must be sick of their kids, mentally unstable, and unfit to parent.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also in Bowser’s economic interests to get all kids back into school. If they do some sort of hybrid schedule in the fall then they need to provide daycare services. A lot of parents can’t afford to stay home part of the week.

LOL. Nobody is getting "daycare services." That's the parents' responsibility, not the school's.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

My children would disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

Acting ghetto won’t get you want you want.

Your mistake is thinking that it makes a scrap of difference that you "are done." You have no power

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

No other essential societal function has degraded this much during the pandemic. Stop with the false equivalency.

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

DP. It might just be a "viewpoint" article, but it's hardly a lone voice in the wilderness. There is an international consensus that schools do not *significantly* contribute to community spread and therefore the benefits of opening them outweigh the risks.

Almost 40 percent of schools in the US are open -- kids go to school every day, in person. Another 20 percent of schools are open part time, i.e. hybrid. All the CDC did was look at what happened in schools that have been open. It's not an editorial saying people should do one thing or another. It's an analysis of what actually happened in schools that have been open.

Telling me that Florida, Texas, and California schools are fully open does not impress me much. I don't want DC hospitals to look like theirs.

I live in DC. My kids have been in school since August. Guess how many coronavirus cases they've had at their school? ZERO.

My siblings' kids are in public schools in Texas (with masks and distancing required). Almost every school in their large district has cases. Several of the middle and high schools continuously hover at about 25-35 cases on an ongoing basis.

So I guess our meaningless anecdotes cancel each other out.

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Anonymous wrote:Daycares have been open for at least six months. Some never closed during the pandemic. They seem to be doing fine.

Sorry, teachers. Vacation has to end sometime.

Teachers have been working all year and nobody is on vacation, you snot.

But you knew that already and you just wanted attention.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

My children would disagree.

Sorry to hear that. Your children are not the teachers' employers and do not set the terms of their employment.

Also, your children at home are heavily influenced by your attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:Daycares have been open for at least six months. Some never closed during the pandemic. They seem to be doing fine.

Sorry, teachers. Vacation has to end sometime.

Teachers have been working all year and nobody is on vacation, you snot.

But you knew that already and you just wanted attention.

My kids only see their teachers a couple hours per day and never on Wednesdays. Teaching has become a part-time job.

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Anonymous wrote:The coronavirus numbers in DC are already very low right now, and hardly anyone has been vaccinated. By the summer, a large percentage of people will be vaccinated, and the number of coronavirus cases in the city will be extremely low.

Fantasy

You can just look at the numbers. The infection rate is now below 1.0, which means the outbreak is shrinking.

The positivity rate is 3.4 percent, which is very low (it's supposed to be under 5 percent if you want to reopen schools).

And barely three percent of DC residents have been vaccinated.

If we'd stayed virtual through June, maybe. With si many kids sharing air aince last week, community transmission is bound to rise again and jeopardize what OP is hoping for.

Stop the disinformation. You have no evidence to show that schools are significant drivers of community spread.

CDC says the opposite. They say rates are lower in schools than in the surrounding areas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/04/school-reopening-risk-virus/

PP, the disinformation is the false claim bordering on fantasy that schools wouldn't contribute to community spread. Of course they do.

You can read the CDC report yourself. It's here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775875

It says, in part: "There has been little evidence that schools have contributed meaningfully to increased community transmission."

Roughly two-thirds of all schools in the United States are currently open in some fashion. Almost 40 percent of all schools are currently in-person, every day. If there was a health problem with opening schools, we'd know it. The CDC says it ain't happening. I'm sure that's very disappointing to you.

First of all, see the disclaimer of that 'viewpoint' article, "The findings and conclusions in this report are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."A viewpoint is numerous rungs below a meta-analysis, and it's basically an editorial. Last time we gave too much weight to a viewpoint in a medical journal, we created the opioid crisis.

Second, take a listen of this podcast for a reasonable view of this problem.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/why-press-gets-school-transmission-so-wrong-on-the-media

DP. It might just be a "viewpoint" article, but it's hardly a lone voice in the wilderness. There is an international consensus that schools do not *significantly* contribute to community spread and therefore the benefits of opening them outweigh the risks.

Almost 40 percent of schools in the US are open -- kids go to school every day, in person. Another 20 percent of schools are open part time, i.e. hybrid. All the CDC did was look at what happened in schools that have been open. It's not an editorial saying people should do one thing or another. It's an analysis of what actually happened in schools that have been open.

Telling me that Florida, Texas, and California schools are fully open does not impress me much. I don't want DC hospitals to look like theirs.

I live in DC. My kids have been in school since August. Guess how many coronavirus cases they've had at their school? ZERO.

My siblings' kids are in public schools in Texas (with masks and distancing required). Almost every school in their large district has cases. Several of the middle and high schools continuously hover at about 25-35 cases on an ongoing basis.

So I guess our meaningless anecdotes cancel each other out.

Anecdotes are dumb. The medical community is unanimous though that schools should be open.

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We have to start talking about school of different levels as different settings:

- Daycare centers: less risk for transmission with proper precautions, very low risk of severe illness for healthy kids
- Elementary school: less risk for transmission with proper precautions, very low risk of severe illness for healthy kids
- Middle school: unclear if risk of transmission is lower, very low risk of severe illness for healthy kids
- Highschool: likely same risk of transmission as adults, very low risk of severe illness for healthy kids
- University: same risk of transmission as adults, low risk of sever illness for healthy kids

The decisions to be based on multiple factors including the local context and the school's capabilities.