DC Independent School Teachers not eligible for COVID vaccine on Jan 25.

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Anonymous wrote:I signed up to receive notifications about vaccinations through the DC government. In the morning I receive a notification that people 65 or older may sign up for appointments. No sooner than 30 minutes later, I receive an email stating that all the appointments are already taken and that they're sorry they don't have more vaccine. I never believed the 1/25 date was going to fly. I'm banking more on spring break time.

I've never heard of a more haphazard and inefficient method of achieving high vaccination rates than the current system, which is essentially this:

Wake up and logon computer and then hit re-boot on every sign up list you can find until all doses are gone in 30 minutes- Hmmm.... I guess if you have Fios maybe you can overtake someone with a slower wifi signal

OR, maybe this system favors those who don't give up

What Public Health officials should be doing is take the survival of the fittest method out of it and simply send notices to every home in DC ( use DC Drivers Li records or census records OR BOTH ( same method they use to send Jury Duty notices) and simply assign a date and time to each person.

Report here at this date and time/ don't show up, then a summons is issued for you and a fine levied - per day- until you show up and get vaccinated

Are you kidding? Getting vaccinated is optional, and plenty of people are opting out. Why would you waste precious time trying to run down people who don't want the shot when there are millions of people begging for it? I agree that the current system is terrible for elderly folks who aren't tech savvy or mobile, which is why DC is offering more shots in certain zip codes to try to catch some of these people. Hopefully when we have more vaccine available, health care workers can start going door to door or giving shots in churches.

The rate of vaccination is limited by the number of shots available, period.

PP, because well- for what should be the obvious reason- because that is how you stop the virus in its tracks, halt death and disease and with it its devastating social and economic cost.

Period

Do you think Doctors and Nurses working in Hospitals go on line every day and try to find a vaccine appointment ? Of course not, they go to work and they line them up and that is it.

Same thing in Nursing Homes. Do you honestly think Grandma Irma is trying to logon and snag a vaccine at 9AM using her iPad. No, she probably barely even gets the lip service of "informed consent" . Its very likely done like, " now here are your pills for today and here is your shot " Done.

It should be the same for all of us. Was Polio vaccine optional/ was Smallpox optional. Is Anthrax vaccine optional if you are in Military active duty. No, of course not. Why? Because there would be a devastating result for failure to vaccinate

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Daycare workers aside, the private school proponents preaching about fairness and the greater good in this thread are just too much.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for unity, I guess the private school teachers only matter when you’re trying to push a certain agenda? All teachers deserve to be vaccinated as do the elderly and frontline workers. This is why we need a federal distribution plan, so we are not relying on the whims of disingenuous gate keepers who want to use the vaccine as a political football or bargaining chip.

+1 Agree. The inconsistency between states is especially causing hardship in an area like the DMV where a person might be employed in one state, have their kids in school in another etc.

IMO this particular situation, besides reeking of class warfare, is about Bowser and the Union. She knows they will balk and not open Feb 1st, and she will say- "But I gave you the vaccine". They/public school teachers will be the 'bad guys'. She will coast on. I am not excusing it, that is just my analysis of why this group of educators was elevated about all others including ones who are already working with kids!

People, there is no reason to make this is a Zero sum game- there simply are not that many Private school teachers in DC to make a difference in who can or cannot get the vaccine. There are about 70,000 students in school in DC ( Public, Charter and Private), of which about 7,000 are in DC Private Schools. So how many teachers are we maybe talking about ( excluding those who will be vaccinated in their state of residence of VA or MD ) ?

Let's see there is Maret, Sidwell, GDS, Lowell, STA/NCS/ Beauvoir and a few others. That amounts to maybe 1200 teachers TOTAL. Probably 1/2 or more live in VA or MD ( because most people can't afford to live in DC on a teachers salary ) So, we are talking maybe 600 teachers - easily enough done the day after all DCPS gets their 1st shot.

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You really think those expensive 1-percenter schools are the only private schools in DC? There are ~75 private school in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for unity, I guess the private school teachers only matter when you’re trying to push a certain agenda? All teachers deserve to be vaccinated as do the elderly and frontline workers. This is why we need a federal distribution plan, so we are not relying on the whims of disingenuous gate keepers who want to use the vaccine as a political football or bargaining chip.

+1 Agree. The inconsistency between states is especially causing hardship in an area like the DMV where a person might be employed in one state, have their kids in school in another etc.

IMO this particular situation, besides reeking of class warfare, is about Bowser and the Union. She knows they will balk and not open Feb 1st, and she will say- "But I gave you the vaccine". They/public school teachers will be the 'bad guys'. She will coast on. I am not excusing it, that is just my analysis of why this group of educators was elevated about all others including ones who are already working with kids!

People, there is no reason to make this is a Zero sum game- there simply are not that many Private school teachers in DC to make a difference in who can or cannot get the vaccine. There are about 70,000 students in school in DC ( Public, Charter and Private), of which about 7,000 are in DC Private Schools. So how many teachers are we maybe talking about ( excluding those who will be vaccinated in their state of residence of VA or MD ) ?

Let's see there is Maret, Sidwell, GDS, Lowell, STA/NCS/ Beauvoir and a few others. That amounts to maybe 1200 teachers TOTAL. Probably 1/2 or more live in VA or MD ( because most people can't afford to live in DC on a teachers salary ) So, we are talking maybe 600 teachers - easily enough done the day after all DCPS gets their 1st shot.

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You really think those expensive 1-percenter schools are the only private schools in DC? There are ~75 private school in DC.

That is pretty funny that the PP thinks they can rattle off the names of all privates in DC.
Obviously you are correct and there are a lot more private schools. The irony is that those privates are the ones who have been more likely to have all it done if their teachers in person-hence their need for the vaccine first! DC public teachers are all virtual, correct?

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I meant all privates not “those” privates above.

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Anonymous wrote:That's disgusting. Shame on DC. All K-12 teachers should have equal access to the vaccine. It is vital the PS teachers get it so their schools can reopen, and it is equally important that private and catholic school teachers who are putting themselves at risk every day get it.

Maybe the idea is that if you thought it was safe before the vaccine was available, why do you suddenly think it is unsafe now. The shot is not a reward. It is not a medal of bravery. If it was safe for you to work unvaccinated in Sept, it is safe now. Otherwise, you can’t really revile people who thought it was unsafe in September and have stayed home until they could get a shot.

Right, so why wouldn't ALL teachers be treated the same?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for the last 10 months all we’ve heard is that private schools can “pivot” so much more quickly and are more adaptable than public schools... so pivot and adapt!

It seems that you are bitter for some reason.

Public school teacher or parent, perhaps.

Private schools employ citizens -and citizens are entitled to be treated equally. In this case, private school teachers - as public school teachers - have had their employment designated as an essential service. Accordingly, private school teachers should be granted equal access to vaccines.

NP- personally as a private employee/public parent I laughed in agreement at that post. It’s a little disheartening hearing over and over that public can’t do anything right and COVID hasn’t been a problem at private schools, etc. So if covid isn’t a problem, what’s the hurry? If everything has been fine since September then it’ll be fine for a few more weeks, eh?

And you don't think it's ridiculous that the teachers who have actually been teaching in person should get vaccinated AT THE SAME TIME, not even before, the teachers who haven't been? You think the public schools are going to magically open back up again once the teachers are vaccinated? I'll see you back here in several weeks and we can discuss how that is going.

Do you think there is a chance the schools will open without the teachers getting vaccinated?

Not in the DMV I don't. In other places, sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for the last 10 months all we’ve heard is that private schools can “pivot” so much more quickly and are more adaptable than public schools... so pivot and adapt!

It seems that you are bitter for some reason.

Public school teacher or parent, perhaps.

Private schools employ citizens -and citizens are entitled to be treated equally. In this case, private school teachers - as public school teachers - have had their employment designated as an essential service. Accordingly, private school teachers should be granted equal access to vaccines.

NP- personally as a private employee/public parent I laughed in agreement at that post. It’s a little disheartening hearing over and over that public can’t do anything right and COVID hasn’t been a problem at private schools, etc. So if covid isn’t a problem, what’s the hurry? If everything has been fine since September then it’ll be fine for a few more weeks, eh?

And you don't think it's ridiculous that the teachers who have actually been teaching in person should get vaccinated AT THE SAME TIME, not even before, the teachers who haven't been? You think the public schools are going to magically open back up again once the teachers are vaccinated? I'll see you back here in several weeks and we can discuss how that is going.

I’ve been in school the whole time (I was told to report every day or be terminated) and what I think is ridiculous is the notion that it was safe for us to be there in the first place. But at this point, I find it patronizing that the very same people who’ve told me for months that I’m in no danger because kids can’t get COVID, kids can’t spread covid, private schools aren’t susceptible to covid, EVERYTHING IS FINE! are now so concerned for my well-being.

You people just want to be pissed off, so go be pissed off somewhere else and take your concern trolling with you.

I never said any of the above things and I'm the PP. So maybe you need to take your pissy attitude somewhere else. I would vote for moving teachers like you to the back of the line - does that make you feel better?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I signed up to receive notifications about vaccinations through the DC government. In the morning I receive a notification that people 65 or older may sign up for appointments. No sooner than 30 minutes later, I receive an email stating that all the appointments are already taken and that they're sorry they don't have more vaccine. I never believed the 1/25 date was going to fly. I'm banking more on spring break time.

I've never heard of a more haphazard and inefficient method of achieving high vaccination rates than the current system, which is essentially this:

Wake up and logon computer and then hit re-boot on every sign up list you can find until all doses are gone in 30 minutes- Hmmm.... I guess if you have Fios maybe you can overtake someone with a slower wifi signal

OR, maybe this system favors those who don't give up

What Public Health officials should be doing is take the survival of the fittest method out of it and simply send notices to every home in DC ( use DC Drivers Li records or census records OR BOTH ( same method they use to send Jury Duty notices) and simply assign a date and time to each person.

Report here at this date and time/ don't show up, then a summons is issued for you and a fine levied - per day- until you show up and get vaccinated

Vaccine is not mandatory. They could ask you to confirm the assigned appointment If you don't within a certain time period, you lose the spot and your name is re-entered for the next go-round.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahaha

I’m not sure what you say is accurate.

But if so, it makes me laugh.

I hope the schools won’t be able to buy their way out of this but I doubt it

I fully support prioritizing public school teachers

Wow, laughing at people risking their health to educate your children.

You’re a terrible human.

I don’t have kids in private school. My kids go to public. I could afford private, but I choose to support the public school system

Why are you on this forum?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, for the last 10 months all we’ve heard is that private schools can “pivot” so much more quickly and are more adaptable than public schools... so pivot and adapt!

It seems that you are bitter for some reason.

Public school teacher or parent, perhaps.

Private schools employ citizens -and citizens are entitled to be treated equally. In this case, private school teachers - as public school teachers - have had their employment designated as an essential service. Accordingly, private school teachers should be granted equal access to vaccines.

NP- personally as a private employee/public parent I laughed in agreement at that post. It’s a little disheartening hearing over and over that public can’t do anything right and COVID hasn’t been a problem at private schools, etc. So if covid isn’t a problem, what’s the hurry? If everything has been fine since September then it’ll be fine for a few more weeks, eh?

And you don't think it's ridiculous that the teachers who have actually been teaching in person should get vaccinated AT THE SAME TIME, not even before, the teachers who haven't been? You think the public schools are going to magically open back up again once the teachers are vaccinated? I'll see you back here in several weeks and we can discuss how that is going.

Do you think there is a chance the schools will open without the teachers getting vaccinated?

Not in the DMV I don't. In other places, sure.

And that is why the public school teachers will get vaccinated before the privates.

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Anonymous wrote:Daycare workers aside, the private school proponents preaching about fairness and the greater good in this thread are just too much.

Why? We want equity. A designated group (just like 65plus for example) was deemed essential and offered vaccines. Bowser, because of her usual divisive self interested persona, carved out public school teachers from that group. Instead of including all teachers in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Daycare workers aside, the private school proponents preaching about fairness and the greater good in this thread are just too much.

Why? We want equity. A designated group (just like 65plus for example) was deemed essential and offered vaccines. Bowser, because of her usual divisive self interested persona, carved out public school teachers from that group. Instead of including all teachers in DC.

Now preaching about fairness, the greater good, and equity, too. Ok, sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahaha

I’m not sure what you say is accurate.

But if so, it makes me laugh.

I hope the schools won’t be able to buy their way out of this but I doubt it

I fully support prioritizing public school teachers

Wow, laughing at people risking their health to educate your children.

You’re a terrible human.

I don’t have kids in private school. My kids go to public. I could afford private, but I choose to support the public school system

You realize private school parents also support the public school system, unless you are somehow paying more taxes voluntarily.

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She is making hard choices about limited resources. In the interest of real equity, she is prioritizing poor kids whose families cannot afford private. As a PP pointed out, the private school population is relatively small and, as we all know, relatively wealthy. Private is a choice. It’s not essential.