DC Independent School Teachers not eligible for COVID vaccine on Jan 25.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for unity, I guess the private school teachers only matter when you’re trying to push a certain agenda? All teachers deserve to be vaccinated as do the elderly and frontline workers. This is why we need a federal distribution plan, so we are not relying on the whims of disingenuous gate keepers who want to use the vaccine as a political football or bargaining chip.

+1 Agree. The inconsistency between states is especially causing hardship in an area like the DMV where a person might be employed in one state, have their kids in school in another etc.

IMO this particular situation, besides reeking of class warfare, is about Bowser and the Union. She knows they will balk and not open Feb 1st, and she will say- "But I gave you the vaccine". They/public school teachers will be the 'bad guys'. She will coast on. I am not excusing it, that is just my analysis of why this group of educators was elevated about all others including ones who are already working with kids!

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Anonymous wrote:Well, for the last 10 months all we’ve heard is that private schools can “pivot” so much more quickly and are more adaptable than public schools... so pivot and adapt!

It seems that you are bitter for some reason.

Public school teacher or parent, perhaps.

Private schools employ citizens -and citizens are entitled to be treated equally. In this case, private school teachers - as public school teachers - have had their employment designated as an essential service. Accordingly, private school teachers should be granted equal access to vaccines.

NP- personally as a private employee/public parent I laughed in agreement at that post. It’s a little disheartening hearing over and over that public can’t do anything right and COVID hasn’t been a problem at private schools, etc. So if covid isn’t a problem, what’s the hurry? If everything has been fine since September then it’ll be fine for a few more weeks, eh?

And you don't think it's ridiculous that the teachers who have actually been teaching in person should get vaccinated AT THE SAME TIME, not even before, the teachers who haven't been? You think the public schools are going to magically open back up again once the teachers are vaccinated? I'll see you back here in several weeks and we can discuss how that is going.

I’ve been in school the whole time (I was told to report every day or be terminated) and what I think is ridiculous is the notion that it was safe for us to be there in the first place. But at this point, I find it patronizing that the very same people who’ve told me for months that I’m in no danger because kids can’t get COVID, kids can’t spread covid, private schools aren’t susceptible to covid, EVERYTHING IS FINE! are now so concerned for my well-being.

You people just want to be pissed off, so go be pissed off somewhere else and take your concern trolling with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some of the private schools that, I'm guessing, most people on this board know nothing about: St. Augustine, St. Anthony, Sacred Heart, St Francis Xavier, St. Thomas More, Archbishop Carroll. They receive tuition subsidies for many families and serve mostly minority populations. Their teachers earn less than their public-school colleagues. They don't want or deserve more than public school teachers. They don't deserve less either.

yes, this is the irony of the class warfare aspect--it's a low blow to the above, as well as to daycare staff and children who come from a wide array of backgrounds. Daycare staff are always treated to the lowest rung societally, when truly they are heroes.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahaha

I’m not sure what you say is accurate.

But if so, it makes me laugh.

I hope the schools won’t be able to buy their way out of this but I doubt it

I fully support prioritizing public school teachers

Wow, laughing at people risking their health to educate your children.

You’re a terrible human.

I don’t have kids in private school. My kids go to public. I could afford private, but I choose to support the public school system

so going private doesn't guarantee success in the future of course. After high school there are various colleges and universities and then many different career paths to take. Some private school kids will do well and some public school kids will also do well. And some from both groups may not do as well. That is life. There is no guarantee. Well, actually I do guarantee any child living in the same household as a horribly awful and jealous (yep doubt you can afford private like you said) person like you will probably not go very far if that child is learning behavior from you. You are a terrible human and are most likely raising others like you. So please STFU and stay in the public school forum.

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You guys, there just isn't ENOUGH vaccine to go around!!! All of the appointments for seniors were getting sucked up by speedy fingers in Wards 2 and 3, which is why there are now set-asides for other zip codes. This makes sense. Seniors in DC, MD, VA and PA are all complaining in other threads about not being able to get appointments.

It makes sense to me that Bowser is prioritizing in-person, public school teachers for now. More vaccines are being released every week and hopefully we can get all our teachers and our seniors vaccinated in the next several weeks.

I am a charter school parent but just want to say THANK YOU to all the teachers who have been working through this pandemic. You are all heroes to me.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have all teachers and child care workers eligible for the vaccine, regardless of public or private. It will take awhile for them all to receive their shot since the supply is limited. Instead of public or private, I would prioritize by age, health condition, zip code of home and other demographic areas that may put them at risk.

Or living in multi generational home. That's it. I am black--being black does not make me more susceptible to Covid. Age, underlying health conditions. living situations do. Dividing DC residents by zip code and private/public school I find disturbing.

I made the suggestion for zip code to prioritize teachers who are living in zip codes that have the highest rates of the virus. I don't think it should matter whether the teacher works in a public or private school.

What makes people IN those zip codes more susceptible are those who have underlying health conditions and/or live in multi-generational households, NOT the zip code itself. People can also have underlying health conditions and live in multigenerational families out side of those zip codes. If you want to weed and sort, do it by health conditions and multi generational household weighting your place in line. that is actually "fair" and "scientific"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hahahahaha

I’m not sure what you say is accurate.

But if so, it makes me laugh.

I hope the schools won’t be able to buy their way out of this but I doubt it

I fully support prioritizing public school teachers

Wow, laughing at people risking their health to educate your children.

You’re a terrible human.

I don’t have kids in private school. My kids go to public. I could afford private, but I choose to support the public school system

so going private doesn't guarantee success in the future of course. After high school there are various colleges and universities and then many different career paths to take. Some private school kids will do well and some public school kids will also do well. And some from both groups may not do as well. That is life. There is no guarantee. Well, actually I do guarantee any child living in the same household as a horribly awful and jealous (yep doubt you can afford private like you said) person like you will probably not go very far if that child is learning behavior from you. You are a terrible human and are most likely raising others like you. So please STFU and stay in the public school forum.

Yikes, PP struck a nerve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, for the last 10 months all we’ve heard is that private schools can “pivot” so much more quickly and are more adaptable than public schools... so pivot and adapt!

It seems that you are bitter for some reason.

Public school teacher or parent, perhaps.

Private schools employ citizens -and citizens are entitled to be treated equally. In this case, private school teachers - as public school teachers - have had their employment designated as an essential service. Accordingly, private school teachers should be granted equal access to vaccines.

NP- personally as a private employee/public parent I laughed in agreement at that post. It’s a little disheartening hearing over and over that public can’t do anything right and COVID hasn’t been a problem at private schools, etc. So if covid isn’t a problem, what’s the hurry? If everything has been fine since September then it’ll be fine for a few more weeks, eh?

And you don't think it's ridiculous that the teachers who have actually been teaching in person should get vaccinated AT THE SAME TIME, not even before, the teachers who haven't been? You think the public schools are going to magically open back up again once the teachers are vaccinated? I'll see you back here in several weeks and we can discuss how that is going.

I’ve been in school the whole time (I was told to report every day or be terminated) and what I think is ridiculous is the notion that it was safe for us to be there in the first place. But at this point, I find it patronizing that the very same people who’ve told me for months that I’m in no danger because kids can’t get COVID, kids can’t spread covid, private schools aren’t susceptible to covid, EVERYTHING IS FINE! are now so concerned for my well-being.

You people just want to be pissed off, so go be pissed off somewhere else and take your concern trolling with you.

So I guess you don’t care if your doctor or dentist gets vaccinated! This is about the greater good, the point of the vaccination is to protect the greater good not pit one population against the other. If you have a qualifying reason not to be in school than share that with your boss otherwise it is hard to grasp why you would be against any group getting the vaccination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should have all teachers and child care workers eligible for the vaccine, regardless of public or private. It will take awhile for them all to receive their shot since the supply is limited. Instead of public or private, I would prioritize by age, health condition, zip code of home and other demographic areas that may put them at risk.

Or living in multi generational home. That's it. I am black--being black does not make me more susceptible to Covid. Age, underlying health conditions. living situations do. Dividing DC residents by zip code and private/public school I find disturbing.

I made the suggestion for zip code to prioritize teachers who are living in zip codes that have the highest rates of the virus. I don't think it should matter whether the teacher works in a public or private school.

What makes people IN those zip codes more susceptible are those who have underlying health conditions and/or live in multi-generational households, NOT the zip code itself. People can also have underlying health conditions and live in multigenerational families out side of those zip codes. If you want to weed and sort, do it by health conditions and multi generational household weighting your place in line. that is actually "fair" and "scientific"

At some point, getting too granular is counterproductive. We saw the outrage when some billing clerks in hospitals were getting vaccinated before nurses in long-term care facilities, but it's very, very difficult to have a perfectly optimal distribution.

DC actually is doing a decent job of getting vaccinated per capita.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/covid-vaccine-states-distribution-doses/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should have all teachers and child care workers eligible for the vaccine, regardless of public or private. It will take awhile for them all to receive their shot since the supply is limited. Instead of public or private, I would prioritize by age, health condition, zip code of home and other demographic areas that may put them at risk.

Or living in multi generational home. That's it. I am black--being black does not make me more susceptible to Covid. Age, underlying health conditions. living situations do. Dividing DC residents by zip code and private/public school I find disturbing.

I made the suggestion for zip code to prioritize teachers who are living in zip codes that have the highest rates of the virus. I don't think it should matter whether the teacher works in a public or private school.

What makes people IN those zip codes more susceptible are those who have underlying health conditions and/or live in multi-generational households, NOT the zip code itself. People can also have underlying health conditions and live in multigenerational families out side of those zip codes. If you want to weed and sort, do it by health conditions and multi generational household weighting your place in line. that is actually "fair" and "scientific"

At some point, getting too granular is counterproductive. We saw the outrage when some billing clerks in hospitals were getting vaccinated before nurses in long-term care facilities, but it's very, very difficult to have a perfectly optimal distribution.

DC actually is doing a decent job of getting vaccinated per capita.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/covid-vaccine-states-distribution-doses/

Can we be clear, America is not doing an excellent job and DC is part of America. That they are doing better than piss poor is not saying much, and some of their choices and transparency have been really questionable. Like, we will need hearings on this one day questionable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I signed up to receive notifications about vaccinations through the DC government. In the morning I receive a notification that people 65 or older may sign up for appointments. No sooner than 30 minutes later, I receive an email stating that all the appointments are already taken and that they're sorry they don't have more vaccine. I never believed the 1/25 date was going to fly. I'm banking more on spring break time.

I've never heard of a more haphazard and inefficient method of achieving high vaccination rates than the current system, which is essentially this:

Wake up and logon computer and then hit re-boot on every sign up list you can find until all doses are gone in 30 minutes- Hmmm.... I guess if you have Fios maybe you can overtake someone with a slower wifi signal

OR, maybe this system favors those who don't give up

What Public Health officials should be doing is take the survival of the fittest method out of it and simply send notices to every home in DC ( use DC Drivers Li records or census records OR BOTH ( same method they use to send Jury Duty notices) and simply assign a date and time to each person.

Report here at this date and time/ don't show up, then a summons is issued for you and a fine levied - per day- until you show up and get vaccinated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I signed up to receive notifications about vaccinations through the DC government. In the morning I receive a notification that people 65 or older may sign up for appointments. No sooner than 30 minutes later, I receive an email stating that all the appointments are already taken and that they're sorry they don't have more vaccine. I never believed the 1/25 date was going to fly. I'm banking more on spring break time.

I've never heard of a more haphazard and inefficient method of achieving high vaccination rates than the current system, which is essentially this:

Wake up and logon computer and then hit re-boot on every sign up list you can find until all doses are gone in 30 minutes- Hmmm.... I guess if you have Fios maybe you can overtake someone with a slower wifi signal

OR, maybe this system favors those who don't give up

What Public Health officials should be doing is take the survival of the fittest method out of it and simply send notices to every home in DC ( use DC Drivers Li records or census records OR BOTH ( same method they use to send Jury Duty notices) and simply assign a date and time to each person.

Report here at this date and time/ don't show up, then a summons is issued for you and a fine levied - per day- until you show up and get vaccinated

Are you kidding? Getting vaccinated is optional, and plenty of people are opting out. Why would you waste precious time trying to run down people who don't want the shot when there are millions of people begging for it? I agree that the current system is terrible for elderly folks who aren't tech savvy or mobile, which is why DC is offering more shots in certain zip codes to try to catch some of these people. Hopefully when we have more vaccine available, health care workers can start going door to door or giving shots in churches.

The rate of vaccination is limited by the number of shots available, period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for unity, I guess the private school teachers only matter when you’re trying to push a certain agenda? All teachers deserve to be vaccinated as do the elderly and frontline workers. This is why we need a federal distribution plan, so we are not relying on the whims of disingenuous gate keepers who want to use the vaccine as a political football or bargaining chip.

+1 Agree. The inconsistency between states is especially causing hardship in an area like the DMV where a person might be employed in one state, have their kids in school in another etc.

IMO this particular situation, besides reeking of class warfare, is about Bowser and the Union. She knows they will balk and not open Feb 1st, and she will say- "But I gave you the vaccine". They/public school teachers will be the 'bad guys'. She will coast on. I am not excusing it, that is just my analysis of why this group of educators was elevated about all others including ones who are already working with kids!

People, there is no reason to make this is a Zero sum game- there simply are not that many Private school teachers in DC to make a difference in who can or cannot get the vaccine. There are about 70,000 students in school in DC ( Public, Charter and Private), of which about 7,000 are in DC Private Schools. So how many teachers are we maybe talking about ( excluding those who will be vaccinated in their state of residence of VA or MD ) ?

Let's see there is Maret, Sidwell, GDS, Lowell, STA/NCS/ Beauvoir and a few others. That amounts to maybe 1200 teachers TOTAL. Probably 1/2 or more live in VA or MD ( because most people can't afford to live in DC on a teachers salary ) So, we are talking maybe 600 teachers - easily enough done the day after all DCPS gets their 1st shot.

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Call your council member’s office. Sign the petitions going around. This is about fairness, all teachers should be eligible at the same time. This is also about getting and keeping all kids in school. And it is unconscionable that daycare teachers have been excluded. They have stayed open throughout the pandemic so frontline workers can do their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Call your council member’s office. Sign the petitions going around. This is about fairness, all teachers should be eligible at the same time. This is also about getting and keeping all kids in school. And it is unconscionable that daycare teachers have been excluded. They have stayed open throughout the pandemic so frontline workers can do their jobs.

For the last time, vaccine priority is NOT about fairness. It's about minimizing death and hospitalizations, shoring up our health care system, and trying to stem the long-term damage to our most vulnerable citizens. It's an extremely limited resource, so it's not possible to address the needs of "all" kids at the exact same moment. Think about it.