I feel politically lost

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

Charter schools are a miserable failure almost everywhere. If you love sticking to clearly failed policies, the R party is for you!

Where I live, many of them (it a version of them called choice schools) are a huge success.
One of the most popular ones is in a wealthy, majority white school district.
They tried to open its “chapter” in a neighboring district that has around 30% SES students overall (the schools differ in that regard quite drastically) and were essentially not allowed to operate, though many people were interested in enrolling.
At least here, charter schools are a way for families that are interested in educating their kids to get together and avoid dealing with problems that aren’t theirs to solve, and moreover, the problems too big for them to solve.
If public schools implemented at least some of what the charter schools are offering, charters would be much less popular.
Not everyone can afford private to not deal with behavior and academic issues and lack of parental involvement in school affairs.

That’s not a benefit of charter schools, that’s a benefit of any school that allows you to pull your child out of the general population. Where I live magnet public schools accomplish this objective for parents who so choose to enroll. This is problematic for obvious reasons, but charter schools have even bigger problems that make them a non-starter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.

No, Democrats want open borders.

No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.

No, Democrats want open borders.

No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.

+1

Don't believe the propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

Charter schools are a miserable failure almost everywhere. If you love sticking to clearly failed policies, the R party is for you!

Where I live, many of them (it a version of them called choice schools) are a huge success.
One of the most popular ones is in a wealthy, majority white school district.
They tried to open its “chapter” in a neighboring district that has around 30% SES students overall (the schools differ in that regard quite drastically) and were essentially not allowed to operate, though many people were interested in enrolling.
At least here, charter schools are a way for families that are interested in educating their kids to get together and avoid dealing with problems that aren’t theirs to solve, and moreover, the problems too big for them to solve.
If public schools implemented at least some of what the charter schools are offering, charters would be much less popular.
Not everyone can afford private to not deal with behavior and academic issues and lack of parental involvement in school affairs.

DP

My SIL works for a charter school in Philly and it has been a wonderful success. The Phila school system was a mess. Similar to MCPS. Now teachers and admin have more immediate control over day to day issues and they are much happier.

My nephew goes to a tech charter school in Arizona and is getting a much better education than my kid here in MoCo.

We also can’t afford private and MCPS says parents have ‘choice’ but MS Magnet seats are extremely limited.

(Maybe Fairfax and Loudon County are better - that’s why I’m specifying MCPS)

[Anonymous]

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Where I live, many of them (it a version of them called choice schools) are a huge success.
One of the most popular ones is in a wealthy, majority white school district.
They tried to open its “chapter” in a neighboring district that has around 30% SES students overall (the schools differ in that regard quite drastically) and were essentially not allowed to operate, though many people were interested in enrolling.
At least here, charter schools are a way for families that are interested in educating their kids to get together and avoid dealing with problems that aren’t theirs to solve, and moreover, the problems too big for them to solve.
If public schools implemented at least some of what the charter schools are offering, charters would be much less popular.
Not everyone can afford private to not deal with behavior and academic issues and lack of parental involvement in school affairs.

Boy, that is sure some coded language right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.

No, Democrats want open borders.

No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.

Lol. The quotes are there for all to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.

No, Democrats want open borders.

No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.

+1

Don't believe the propaganda.

I'm not the PP.

What propaganda?

I watched the Democratic debates (because I would like to vote for a Democrat candidate, since Trump is such a putz).

Several Democratic candidates want to decriminalize border crossings. What effect will that have on illegal immigration?

Several Democratic candidates support free health insurance to illegal immigrants. Will that increase or decrease the number of illegal immigrants in my town?

Can you point out a clear position where the Democrats have said they will try to curtail illegal immigration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You don't have to be a Republican or a Democrat.

I sometimes vote for Democrats, and sometimes for Republicans. Depending on the candidates. I'm a Democrat who whole-heartedly supports Hogan (a Republican).

Look at the issues and look at the candidates websites to see where they stand. Do you agree with Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren? Will they be able to get a handle on illegal immigration effectively? If so, then vote for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You don't have to be a Republican or a Democrat.

I sometimes vote for Democrats, and sometimes for Republicans. Depending on the candidates. I'm a Democrat who whole-heartedly supports Hogan (a Republican).

Look at the issues and look at the candidates websites to see where they stand. Do you agree with Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren? Will they be able to get a handle on illegal immigration effectively? If so, then vote for them.

If you're in the "build the wall" crowd, then go ahead and vote for Trump. The Democrats are moving left and the Republicans are moving towards authoritarian autocratic rule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing how “amoral” has become the Dems newest catchphrase. I guess they finally caught on that “racist” was so overused that normal people now ignore their hysteria. “Amoral” is headed that way too.

I’ve been calling you sh1theads “amoral” for years. Try to keep up.

You know what's amoral?

Bringing in illegal immigrants as a way to keep wages low, and as a way to allow business owners to make more profits.

Who benefits from illegal immigration? Business who get cheap labor. That's it. Nobody else. Not the illegal immigrants, who have to accept crap wages, and live in crappy conditions. Not the middle class. It's a fantastic deal for wealthy business owners who can pay low wages and not offer health insurance.

Why else does illegal immigration continue?

What is amoral is the fact that Democrats encourage more illegal immigrants to risk their lives by promising them more free stuff here in the US (free education for the kids, free health insurance, free college tuition) just so that their stream of cheap labor will continue. It's gross. And, definitely amoral.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.

No, Democrats want open borders.

No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.

Listen, I am a lefty Democrat and PP is not doing us a favor by denying open borders. Please stop talking in platitudes and just say that you want open borders to take the people who were victims of US military or foreign policy aggression, who will take any job offered for any amount of money, and will benefit from the social welfare programs Dems and private charities have in place for refugees. That is what I believe in and that requires open borders to accomplish it.

The only "faux" is the PP's narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where I live, many of them (it a version of them called choice schools) are a huge success.
One of the most popular ones is in a wealthy, majority white school district.
They tried to open its “chapter” in a neighboring district that has around 30% SES students overall (the schools differ in that regard quite drastically) and were essentially not allowed to operate, though many people were interested in enrolling.
At least here, charter schools are a way for families that are interested in educating their kids to get together and avoid dealing with problems that aren’t theirs to solve, and moreover, the problems too big for them to solve.
If public schools implemented at least some of what the charter schools are offering, charters would be much less popular.
Not everyone can afford private to not deal with behavior and academic issues and lack of parental involvement in school affairs.

Boy, that is sure some coded language right there.

It's the liberal way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel lost as well. I will (hopefully) be a naturalized citizen in 4 years. Who do I vote for?
I am an atheist and pro choice. I don’t care about gay marriage either way. I support school choice and charter schools. I also support science.
I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration, political correctness gone mad, social justice warfare, and everything along these lines. I guess I am neither liberal nor progressive in this sense.

You are a dem my dear. An atheist in the repub party? Ah no. Most dems are opposed to illegal immigration - we just want a humane solution. Kicking out DACA kids who don’t even speak their country’s language seems harsh.

No, Democrats want open borders.

No we don’t. That’s a lie that Faux News spreads to republicans about democrats that is not true. We don’t want open borders. We want a refined immigration policy that addresses security, humanitarian, political, population growth, labor law and economic considerations.

Listen, I am a lefty Democrat and PP is not doing us a favor by denying open borders. Please stop talking in platitudes and just say that you want open borders to take the people who were victims of US military or foreign policy aggression, who will take any job offered for any amount of money, and will benefit from the social welfare programs Dems and private charities have in place for refugees. That is what I believe in and that requires open borders to accomplish it.

The only "faux" is the PP's narrative.

DP

And, you're proud of this? Really? You think this is a good thing and want to encourage it. You want people to maintain their undocumented status so that they will 'take any job' and work for little money. Let alone the fact that they have zero job protection, and employers can completely disregard OSHA regulations. Because, really, what undocumented immigrant is going to want to report their employer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing how “amoral” has become the Dems newest catchphrase. I guess they finally caught on that “racist” was so overused that normal people now ignore their hysteria. “Amoral” is headed that way too.

I’ve been calling you sh1theads “amoral” for years. Try to keep up.

You know what's amoral?

Bringing in illegal immigrants as a way to keep wages low, and as a way to allow business owners to make more profits.

Who benefits from illegal immigration? Business who get cheap labor. That's it. Nobody else. Not the illegal immigrants, who have to accept crap wages, and live in crappy conditions. Not the middle class. It's a fantastic deal for wealthy business owners who can pay low wages and not offer health insurance.

Why else does illegal immigration continue?

What is amoral is the fact that Democrats encourage more illegal immigrants to risk their lives by promising them more free stuff here in the US (free education for the kids, free health insurance, free college tuition) just so that their stream of cheap labor will continue. It's gross. And, definitely amoral.

RACIST!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing how “amoral” has become the Dems newest catchphrase. I guess they finally caught on that “racist” was so overused that normal people now ignore their hysteria. “Amoral” is headed that way too.

I’ve been calling you sh1theads “amoral” for years. Try to keep up.

You know what's amoral?

Bringing in illegal immigrants as a way to keep wages low, and as a way to allow business owners to make more profits.

Who benefits from illegal immigration? Business who get cheap labor. That's it. Nobody else. Not the illegal immigrants, who have to accept crap wages, and live in crappy conditions. Not the middle class. It's a fantastic deal for wealthy business owners who can pay low wages and not offer health insurance.

Why else does illegal immigration continue?

What is amoral is the fact that Democrats encourage more illegal immigrants to risk their lives by promising them more free stuff here in the US (free education for the kids, free health insurance, free college tuition) just so that their stream of cheap labor will continue. It's gross. And, definitely amoral.

Why are they coming here? The jobs.

Who is hiring them? Who is driving them up from the border by the truckload to work in their factories?

Hint: not the Dems.