I feel politically lost

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

+5

I vote results, not personality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

I had to close my business this past year because tariffs were killing it. So I’d say his policies aren’t working for me.

Curious general type of business because my labor intensive business related to housing maintenance is doing very well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

+5

I vote results, not personality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

+5

I vote results, not personality.

Translation: I don't care if my government is corrupt as long as my pocketbook is okay. Results for anyone else in the country or world..meh. Don't care.
Consider moving to another country and stop trying to help bring down ours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

Thanks for nothing. Your ignorance and those of people like you is destructive for this country. Not hyperbole. You buy the right wing propaganda about immigration. You don't care if the leader of our country is a corrupt jerk as long as your bank account is okay. Disgusting.

And additionally, the Trump supporter provides a perfect example of why the word "amoral" is used so often in reference to his supporters. "who cares as long as I get mine".

On the contrary, it is Dems who are amoral in ignoring the real-world results of their bs (Obamacare, illegal immigration, blm riots and murder spike) and the real-world benefits for the majority of Americans of Trump's policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

Thanks for nothing. Your ignorance and those of people like you is destructive for this country. Not hyperbole. You buy the right wing propaganda about immigration. You don't care if the leader of our country is a corrupt jerk as long as your bank account is okay. Disgusting.

Nope. It's not propaganda when I see what illegal immigration is doing to my own community and schools. It's a concern. It may not be a concern for you because you're a wealthy Democrat. But, for some of us, illegal immigration affects our lives on a daily basis.

And, I voted for Hillary, even though I also thought she was a corrupt jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

I had to close my business this past year because tariffs were killing it. So I’d say his policies aren’t working for me.

Curious general type of business because my labor intensive business related to housing maintenance is doing very well.

Also wondering. PP, what type of business?

[Anonymous]

OP, here's what you do:

Step 1) Hold your nose and vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Removing Donald Trump from office has to be the top priority for everyone who isn't a Deplorable MAGAt, regardless of their general political beliefs.

Step 2) Get involved and work to either:
a: reform the GOP;
b: reform the Democratic Party, or;
c: establish a new political party that better suits your political ideology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what you do:

Step 1) Hold your nose and vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Removing Donald Trump from office has to be the top priority for everyone who isn't a Deplorable MAGAt, regardless of their general political beliefs.

Step 2) Get involved and work to either:
a: reform the GOP;
b: reform the Democratic Party, or;
c: establish a new political party that better suits your political ideology.

Bad idea. It will likely mean 4 years of poorly executed programs, using middle class tax money. Especially if it's Sanders or Warren.

OP, I think you have to wait and see which Democratic candidate wins the nominee. And, then decide who is worse.

Agree that it might help to get involved, if you're so inclined. Personally, I hate politics and politicians, so that's not my cup of tea. I only vote.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, I’m a moderate independent who leans right and I feel the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what you do:

Step 1) Hold your nose and vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Removing Donald Trump from office has to be the top priority for everyone who isn't a Deplorable MAGAt, regardless of their general political beliefs.

Step 2) Get involved and work to either:
a: reform the GOP;
b: reform the Democratic Party, or;
c: establish a new political party that better suits your political ideology.

Bad idea. It will likely mean 4 years of poorly executed programs, using middle class tax money. Especially if it's Sanders or Warren.

OP, I think you have to wait and see which Democratic candidate wins the nominee. And, then decide who is worse.

Agree that it might help to get involved, if you're so inclined. Personally, I hate politics and politicians, so that's not my cup of tea. I only vote.

Assuming you're right (you aren't, BTW), I'd still rather have four years of that than another four years of incompetence, dishonesty, undermining of democratic norms, demagoguery and outright criminality. Donald Trump needs to go, and he needs to go for reasons almost unrelated to his policies. This should be manifestly obvious to anyone who gives a crap about anything besides themselves or "sticking it to th' Libz".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what you do:

Step 1) Hold your nose and vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Removing Donald Trump from office has to be the top priority for everyone who isn't a Deplorable MAGAt, regardless of their general political beliefs.

Step 2) Get involved and work to either:
a: reform the GOP;
b: reform the Democratic Party, or;
c: establish a new political party that better suits your political ideology.

Bad idea. It will likely mean 4 years of poorly executed programs, using middle class tax money. Especially if it's Sanders or Warren.

OP, I think you have to wait and see which Democratic candidate wins the nominee. And, then decide who is worse.

Agree that it might help to get involved, if you're so inclined. Personally, I hate politics and politicians, so that's not my cup of tea. I only vote.

Trump won’t be an option for a 2020 vote. He will be in jail by then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what you do:

Step 1) Hold your nose and vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Removing Donald Trump from office has to be the top priority for everyone who isn't a Deplorable MAGAt, regardless of their general political beliefs.

Step 2) Get involved and work to either:
a: reform the GOP;
b: reform the Democratic Party, or;
c: establish a new political party that better suits your political ideology.

Bad idea. It will likely mean 4 years of poorly executed programs, using middle class tax money. Especially if it's Sanders or Warren.

OP, I think you have to wait and see which Democratic candidate wins the nominee. And, then decide who is worse.

Agree that it might help to get involved, if you're so inclined. Personally, I hate politics and politicians, so that's not my cup of tea. I only vote.

Trump won’t be an option for a 2020 vote. He will be in jail by then.

Okay, so then Pence? Is that who you want instead?

Honestly, I think Pence would get even more support than Trump does. My BIL despises Trump, but is religious, and actually would vote for Pence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

Thanks for nothing. Your ignorance and those of people like you is destructive for this country. Not hyperbole. You buy the right wing propaganda about immigration. You don't care if the leader of our country is a corrupt jerk as long as your bank account is okay. Disgusting.

Nope. It's not propaganda when I see what illegal immigration is doing to my own community and schools. It's a concern. It may not be a concern for you because you're a wealthy Democrat. But, for some of us, illegal immigration affects our lives on a daily basis.

And, I voted for Hillary, even though I also thought she was a corrupt jerk.

Sterling middle school and parkview have been inundated with illegal immigrants and associated issues. But the elites and globalist s don’t help and don’t care . Out of touch with reality

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My views don’t align with some of the loudest liberals. Look beyond the talking points, and understand we’re not all in agreement on everything.

There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but I wasn’t thrilled about voting for Clinton in 2016.

Why? Because he’s a jerk? Aren’t most politicians?

Because he’s dishonest? Aren’t most politicians dishonest?

Ask yourself how things are going for you now and if you feel that his policies are working or not working.

+ a million.

Most Americans live better today than in 2016.

#Trump2020, and I do hope Dems regain their senses by 2024.

This is where I come down. Couldn't vote for him in 2016, thought the economy would tank and he'd be in way over his head. I'm concerned that he drives so many establishment types away, but undeniable that we are doing much better overall. So he has my vote.

Exactly. I hope the Dems can come back to their senses in 2024, but for now this ‘lost’ voter is #Trump2020 all the way.

I didn’t vote for him in 2016, and really didn’t even give it a consideration. Now, he’s got my vote based on the economy and illegal immigration. Two important issues for me as a voter.

I don’t care about his obnoxious personality. I don’t care about his Tweets. And I have lots of family overseas, who actually do like him and respect his aggressiveness. (Different cultures see this kind of male aggression and nationalism as more of a positive - I don’t agree, but it’s not true to say that the rest of the world doesn’t respect the US.)

Thanks for nothing. Your ignorance and those of people like you is destructive for this country. Not hyperbole. You buy the right wing propaganda about immigration. You don't care if the leader of our country is a corrupt jerk as long as your bank account is okay. Disgusting.

Nope. It's not propaganda when I see what illegal immigration is doing to my own community and schools. It's a concern. It may not be a concern for you because you're a wealthy Democrat. But, for some of us, illegal immigration affects our lives on a daily basis.

And, I voted for Hillary, even though I also thought she was a corrupt jerk.

Actually, I am not a wealthy person. My neighborhood is full of recent immigrants. These are my neighbors. I would like to know specifically what concerns you have that you think Trump will address. Honestly asking.