I feel politically lost

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice try OP

+1
So predictably tiresome.

+2.Yup.

[Anonymous]

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Putin's bots and trolls are thick and getting creative.

Posing as female service officers overseas, posing as "fellow parents" and always laying on the "patriotism" and "peace" talk extra thick.

Trolls are real people and they will try to convince you they are American.
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Some are more subtle than others. It's like the difference between "high pressure" sales people and the more easy going ones.
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Not saying OP is one, but are some of our buddies on this board at work today, here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice try OP

As soon as someone complains about the Democrats moving to the left, I know this person is either really young or really new to politics.

Go look at where Republicans stood from the 50s to the 70s.

Exactly.

Dems moved to the right in the 1980s and have stayed there ever since.

1960s Republicans (not the southern ones) would mostly feel at home in the modern Democratic Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?

OP, this is me also.

Have voted Democrat in ALL the last presidential elections.

Agree that the Democrats have gone so far off the rails, and that I absolutely do not feel that they care about or want my vote.

I am actually going to be voting for Trump in the next election. I don’t like him as a person, but I can say that about many people I work with.

It is what it is.

Pick what issues matter most to you and vote based on those. Agree that you will not align completely with any candidate.

[Anonymous]

PP again

Also, be careful about where you get your news. Turn off CNN and Fox and be aware about the intense bias in the media. That has been helpful in tuning out some of the noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?

OP, this is me also.

Have voted Democrat in ALL the last presidential elections.

Agree that the Democrats have gone so far off the rails, and that I absolutely do not feel that they care about or want my vote.

I am actually going to be voting for Trump in the next election. I don’t like him as a person, but I can say that about many people I work with.

It is what it is.

Pick what issues matter most to you and vote based on those. Agree that you will not align completely with any candidate.

Such a predictable script.

[Anonymous]

I feel fortunate that I was raised to pay attention to individual candidates. I didn't grow up in a "Democratic" or "Republican" household, I grew up in a politically aware household. My parents typically voted Republican, but when I was defending Carter because he seemed so nice, my parents didn't talk him down because he was a Democrat, and they didn't let me continue my support just because of who he was as a man, but rather we discussed policies and positions, and why, for example, Carter-as-an-outsider would run into problems in a politically insular environment.

Sometimes I vote for Republicans, sometimes I vote for Democrats, sometimes I vote for 3rd party candidates. Research the individual's policies and plans, decide on that. Falling into tribalism helps no one.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for the advice. I guess I should have predicted the couple snarky replies.

[Anonymous]

Easy. Continue to vote Democratic.

Abortion - this one is easy. The Democratic agenda will unquestionably REDUCE abortion by fully funding access to birth control. There's no question about this, at all.

Immigration - this one is a bit harder. You're going to have to do your own research beyond propaganda on both sides. First, to see that no Democrat actually has an "open borders" platform. As we saw with Obama, you can rest assured that a Democratic president is going to enforce immigration. Second, to see that the anti-immigration stuff that you've been absorbing is based much more on fear and xenophobia than it is on an actual understanding of the economics of immigration. Third, to see that it is a very difficult issue against the backdrop of the global economy, and neither party has a simple answer (although they have lots of one-liners). Fourth, to really internalize with the latest Steven Miller stuff that **effective immigration policy is not a Republican goal.** Current GOP use of immigration is as a white nationalist wedge issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the advice. I guess I should have predicted the couple snarky replies.

But interesting that you won't respond to the fact that the Democratic Party has moved to the right the last few decades, so much so that Republicans of yore would be seen as Democrats today. Please respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?

OP, this is me also.

Have voted Democrat in ALL the last presidential elections.

Agree that the Democrats have gone so far off the rails, and that I absolutely do not feel that they care about or want my vot

I am actually going to be voting for Trump in the next election. I don’t like him as a person, but I can say that about many people I work with.

It is what it is.

Pick what issues matter most to you and vote based on those. Agree that you will not align completely with any candidate.

Lol, no. I don't believe you. There is literally no person like this. Try again.

Actually FEWER people support Trump now than ever. And certainly no democrat who voted for Hillary is going to vote for Trump now.

Nice try. HA HA HA HA HA HA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?

News flash. We are all for life.

If you are against abortions, I hope you are for contraception to prevent the pregnancy that could lead to an abortion.

I am generally against abortion but I would not force my view onto another person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel fortunate that I was raised to pay attention to individual candidates. I didn't grow up in a "Democratic" or "Republican" household, I grew up in a politically aware household. My parents typically voted Republican, but when I was defending Carter because he seemed so nice, my parents didn't talk him down because he was a Democrat, and they didn't let me continue my support just because of who he was as a man, but rather we discussed policies and positions, and why, for example, Carter-as-an-outsider would run into problems in a politically insular environment.

Sometimes I vote for Republicans, sometimes I vote for Democrats, sometimes I vote for 3rd party candidates. Research the individual's policies and plans, decide on that. Falling into tribalism helps no one.

+1 million

[Anonymous]

Wait a second. Someone doesn’t identify w/ current Democratic “messaging” (my words), and you’re calling a troll?

Really?
Why? You do that to your own detriment. Come on, guys. Get real. I’m 100% certain OP is legit because I know a lot of people just like OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel so politically lost. I grew up in a "vote Democrat or die" home and was raised to believe that Republicans were the source of all problems in America. However, as the Democrats moved further to the left and I saw firsthand how the culture and policies of dependency impacted my family, I identified less and less with Democrats (I'm also a closeted pro-lifer and I'm not very sympathetic to illegal immigration so that doesn't help in today's Democratic Party). However, the current GOP is repulsive and amoral and there's no way in heck I can support their agenda which I think is chipping away at our democracy. I'm not going to vote Republican (haven't since Bush at the national level), but I don't feel wanted by the Democrats, so I feel lost. Voting for a 3rd party might feel emotionally right but won't help to solve our nation's problems. Is anyone else feeling lost and disillusioned in today's political world? If so, how are you coping with it?

OP, this is me also.

Have voted Democrat in ALL the last presidential elections.

Agree that the Democrats have gone so far off the rails, and that I absolutely do not feel that they care about or want my vot

I am actually going to be voting for Trump in the next election. I don’t like him as a person, but I can say that about many people I work with.

It is what it is.

Pick what issues matter most to you and vote based on those. Agree that you will not align completely with any candidate.

Lol, no. I don't believe you. There is literally no person like this. Try again.

Actually FEWER people support Trump now than ever. And certainly no democrat who voted for Hillary is going to vote for Trump now.

Nice try. HA HA HA HA HA HA

It’s okay. You don’t have to believe me. Honestly, my vote for Trump means nothing anyway because he has zero chance in crazy liberal MoCo.

I am voting based on the economy and on immigration. The economy is doing well and I want someone who is going to take a hard line on immigration.

I am pro-choice, but not strongly enough that it will influence my vote.