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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

What dirt? You liar.

Sorry but it's true
September 2015: Washington Free Beacon hires Fusion GPS
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

Fusion GPS shopped it to Clinton's people as the GOP primary wound down

From your link:
"Goldfarb and Continetti, however, said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now-infamous Trump-Russia dossier, prepared by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS."

So, while FusionGPS was hired by someone in the GOP, their relationship ended with them when Trump won the primary. It was AFTER this point that Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele, the author of the infamous dodgy dossier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

That was 2015. The dossier was created and paid for by Dems. That was the Russian connection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

What dirt? You liar.

Sorry but it's true
September 2015: Washington Free Beacon hires Fusion GPS
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

Fusion GPS shopped it to Clinton's people as the GOP primary wound down

D.C.-based opposition research firm Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with expertise in Russia, to put together the dossier after Republicans quit paying the firm to compile opposition research on Trump. Steele was hired after a lawyer representing the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign hired the firm to dig up dirt on Trump.

Fact Check:

During the Republican presidential primary, an unknown Republican “client” funded Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump, The Washington Post reports. Trump at that time was still seeking the Republican nomination for the 2016 presidential election.

That client cut off funds to Fusion GPS as the primary winded down, and the Clinton campaign hired the firm through its lawyer Mike Elias in April 2016. The DNC and Clinton campaign continued funding the project until October 2016.

Steele “authored” the Trump-Russia dossier that Fusion GPS produced using a “compilation of reports” he worked on while at the firm, and all of his work happened while the Clinton campaign was funding the opposition research.

https://checkyourfact.com/2017/10/25/fact-check-did-republicans-pay-for-the-trump-dossier/

[Anonymous]

https://wreg.com/2019/03/29/mississippi-man-pleads-guilty-in-vote-trump-church-arson/

This was a leading claim on "Trump hate" by SPLC. Another hoax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

That was 2015. The dossier was created and paid for by Dems. That was the Russian connection.

The Russian connections were more than just that. They also included Carter Page (a previously known potential Russian asset) and George Papadopoulos bragging to the Australian High Commissioner to the UK about Russian help. It should be noted that those two individuals were 40% of the Campaign's declared foreign policy advisors.

[Anonymous]

The Russian connections were more than just that. They also included Carter Page (a previously known potential Russian asset) and George Papadopoulos bragging to the Australian High Commissioner to the UK about Russian help. It should be noted that those two individuals were 40% of the Campaign's declared foreign policy advisors.

And, Carter Page had also been an FBI informant. You do know he has not been charged? And, yet, reports indicate he was the "target" of the FISA warrants.

Papadopoulos thinks he was set up by one of the FBI informatns (Mifsud?) His charge was pretty minor. Not collusion. Not espionage.

These appear to be excuses created by FBI people (now absent from FBI). Let's see the FISA warrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://wreg.com/2019/03/29/mississippi-man-pleads-guilty-in-vote-trump-church-arson/

This was a leading claim on "Trump hate" by SPLC. Another hoax.

I guess he won't get alternative prosecution because he isn't gay or isn't an actor or his family knows someone in the former administration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

That was 2015. The dossier was created and paid for by Dems. That was the Russian connection.

Exactly. That dirty Hillary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

What dirt? You liar.

Sorry but it's true
September 2015: Washington Free Beacon hires Fusion GPS
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

Fusion GPS shopped it to Clinton's people as the GOP primary wound down

From your link:
"Goldfarb and Continetti, however, said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now-infamous Trump-Russia dossier, prepared by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS."

So, while FusionGPS was hired by someone in the GOP, their relationship ended with them when Trump won the primary. It was AFTER this point that Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele, the author of the infamous dodgy dossier.

Once more, and this time in capitals, since you still don't seem to be getting it. THE WASHINGTON FREE BEACON PAID FUSION GPS FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH AGAINST TRUMP. Whether or not it had Russia material is immaterial. OPPOSITION RESEARCH IS DIGGING FOR DIRT.

FREE BEACON is who had the opposition research against Trump started. Free Beacon paid a big chunk of money, and as such one can be pretty certain they didn't get "zip." Hillary's people came along later, provided some additional money, which was then used to broaden the opposition research that was already started, this time going internationally via Steele and his MI6 contacts and his contacts who were moles inside Russian government.

You idiots want to diismiss everything that doesn't involve direct collusion with Russia. And you also keep dismissing the Steele dossier as though it were fake despite not actually ever disproving it. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

The GOP paid for zero dirt, you fool.

False. During the GOP Primary, in September 2015, Fusion GPS was paid $1m by a never-Trumper GOP donor to dig up dirt on Trump. That was before Hillary or the FBI even got involved with Fusion GPS.

What dirt? You liar.

Sorry but it's true
September 2015: Washington Free Beacon hires Fusion GPS
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

Fusion GPS shopped it to Clinton's people as the GOP primary wound down

From your link:
"Goldfarb and Continetti, however, said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now-infamous Trump-Russia dossier, prepared by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS."

So, while FusionGPS was hired by someone in the GOP, their relationship ended with them when Trump won the primary. It was AFTER this point that Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele, the author of the infamous dodgy dossier.

Once more, and this time in capitals, since you still don't seem to be getting it. THE WASHINGTON FREE BEACON PAID FUSION GPS FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH AGAINST TRUMP. Whether or not it had Russia material is immaterial. OPPOSITION RESEARCH IS DIGGING FOR DIRT.

FREE BEACON is who had the opposition research against Trump started. Free Beacon paid a big chunk of money, and as such one can be pretty certain they didn't get "zip." Hillary's people came along later, provided some additional money, which was then used to broaden the opposition research that was already started, this time going internationally via Steele and his MI6 contacts and his contacts who were moles inside Russian government.

You idiots want to diismiss everything that doesn't involve direct collusion with Russia. And you also keep dismissing the Steele dossier as though it were fake despite not actually ever disproving it. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

Who is the idiot here?

At the top of this message is how the discussion rolled around to this.

First statement:

The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.

2nd statement:

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

So, let me explain to you.......

The first poster's whole point was that it was Hillary's campaign that actually paid Russians for dirt.
You, presumably, then responded that the GOP hired Fusion GPS first. (statement in bold above)

Your statement doesn't really address the 1st poster's point. It doesn't matter if a GOP person hired Fusion GPS. THE POINT IS THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN IS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY PAID THE RUSSIANS. It was THEN that Christopher Steele came on board and the Russians got involved. I guess you might call that "collusion."

The first poster's statement is accurate and you and your retorts have only muddied the waters. That was likely your intent all along.

[Anonymous]

Smollett and Chicago deserve each other.

[Anonymous]

No one can top Trump claiming to have had the biggest inauguration crowds. That is the yardstick by which all future fake news will be measured,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Smollett and Chicago deserve each other.

Sad. It used to be such a great American city.

[Anonymous]

First statement:

The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.


2nd statement:

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

So, let me explain to you.......

The first poster's whole point was that it was Hillary's campaign that actually paid Russians for dirt.
You, presumably, then responded that the GOP hired Fusion GPS first. (statement in bold above)

Your statement doesn't really address the 1st poster's point. It doesn't matter if a GOP person hired Fusion GPS. THE POINT IS THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN IS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY PAID THE RUSSIANS. It was THEN that Christopher Steele came on board and the Russians got involved. I guess you might call that "collusion."

The first poster's statement is accurate and you and your retorts have only muddied the waters. That was likely your intent all along.

Sorry but there is a lot more to this and it all needs responding to - your side is the one trying to muddy waters, by

It is an accurate statement to say that most national campaigns conduct opposition research, not just Hillary, so first let's stop pretending there was anything evil or unusual about that

It is an accurate statement to say that Republicans started the anti-Trump opposition research with Fusion GPS, so let's stop pretending that isn't the case or that it somehow isn't relevant.

It is an accurate statement to say that Russian collusion is not the only thing that matters, dirt is dirt.

It is NOT an accurate statement to say "Hillary paid Russians" and rest there as if it had significance, because that is a deceptive statement without going into nuances. Did Steele work directly with Putin's henchmen in Russia, or did he work with his prior network of MI6 moles, did he work with Russian anti-Putin intelligence assets in Russia. HUGE difference, and as much as you'd like to try and flip the narrative to claim that Hillary was the colluder (as has been done in many conservative circles) that doesn't pass muster. Merely talking to a Russian does not mean you are colluding with Putin - as your own side has said many times in defense of Trump.

I'm not at all the one muddying waters here. I'm the one picking at the important nuances here that you want to just schlop over with muddy water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

First statement:

The only presidential campaign to pay for Russian dirt was Hillary’s campaign. Let’s just be honest here.

We now have actual facts.


2nd statement:

Except for the actual fact that Fusion GPS was hired to get dirt by the GOP first, before Hillary.

So, let me explain to you.......

The first poster's whole point was that it was Hillary's campaign that actually paid Russians for dirt.
You, presumably, then responded that the GOP hired Fusion GPS first. (statement in bold above)

Your statement doesn't really address the 1st poster's point. It doesn't matter if a GOP person hired Fusion GPS. THE POINT IS THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN IS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY PAID THE RUSSIANS. It was THEN that Christopher Steele came on board and the Russians got involved. I guess you might call that "collusion."

The first poster's statement is accurate and you and your retorts have only muddied the waters. That was likely your intent all along.

Sorry but there is a lot more to this and it all needs responding to - your side is the one trying to muddy waters, by

It is an accurate statement to say that most national campaigns conduct opposition research, not just Hillary, so first let's stop pretending there was anything evil or unusual about that
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It is an accurate statement to say that Republicans started the anti-Trump opposition research with Fusion GPS, so let's stop pretending that isn't the case or that it somehow isn't relevant.

It is an accurate statement to say that Russian collusion is not the only thing that matters, dirt is dirt.

It is NOT an accurate statement to say "Hillary paid Russians" and rest there as if it had significance, because that is a deceptive statement without going into nuances. Did Steele work directly with Putin's henchmen in Russia, or did he work with his prior network of MI6 moles, did he work with Russian anti-Putin intelligence assets in Russia. HUGE difference, and as much as you'd like to try and flip the narrative to claim that Hillary was the colluder (as has been done in many conservative circles) that doesn't pass muster. Merely talking to a Russian does not mean you are colluding with Putin - as your own side has said many times in defense of Trump.

I'm not at all the one muddying waters here. I'm the one picking at the important nuances here that you want to just schlop over with muddy water.

The truth is that we have no idea who Steele worked with to get his information. No idea.
The bottom line is that the Hillary campaign accused Trump of doing exactly what she was doing all along.... working with a foreign national (Steele) to get information from foreign sources (Russians, presumably).