Mueller does not find Trump campaign knowingly conspired with Russia

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The key word is "knowingly". This conclusion just means they didn't "deliberately" conspire with Russia or there wasn't even enough evidence to show that they "intended" to do something unlawful.


The SC didn't say "knowingly." CNN did. A poster here did.

The SC said there was no collusion despite several attempts on the part of Russian-associated people to get them to.
That, my friend, is exoneration on the collusion/conspiracy allegation.


It certainly is.

I love it!


The Special counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”


That quote was in regard to obstruction, friend.
Read the report. Don't get your headlines from CNN.
And, the SC chose not to make decisions regarding obstruction. Likely because there was no underlying crime to obstruct.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So was Roger Stone lying about Assange and Fancy Bear?


Stone wasn't a part of the campaign.
Anonymous
Perhaps it is time to change our laws and regulations so that it is no longer acceptable :
1) For a political candidate to ask a foreign government to hack into the emails of a political opponent or an opposing political party. (Proof exists for this act and we all saw it)
2) For allies of a political candidate to ask for these emails to be selectively leaked at times that are most likely to help the political candidate (I thought the Stone indictment indicated this is what he did- that he was "directed" by an unnamed person to do so)
3) for the campaign manager of a Presidential candidate to Share highly sensitive and detailed polling information with the operative of a foreign country's spy agency. (we know this from court filings)
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/08/manafort-trump-data-ukrainian-court-reveals-1088049

I would hope that people from both parties could agree that this kind of behavior should not be acceptable going forward and that it simply invites malign foreign governments to interfere in our elections.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it is time to change our laws and regulations so that it is no longer acceptable :
1) For a political candidate to ask a foreign government to hack into the emails of a political opponent or an opposing political party. (Proof exists for this act and we all saw it)
2) For allies of a political candidate to ask for these emails to be selectively leaked at times that are most likely to help the political candidate (I thought the Stone indictment indicated this is what he did- that he was "directed" by an unnamed person to do so)
3) for the campaign manager of a Presidential candidate to Share highly sensitive and detailed polling information with the operative of a foreign country's spy agency. (we know this from court filings)
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/08/manafort-trump-data-ukrainian-court-reveals-1088049

I would hope that people from both parties could agree that this kind of behavior should not be acceptable going forward and that it simply invites malign foreign governments to interfere in our elections.


This is all a political question.

The people decided. We're okay with all of this.
Anonymous
This is actually a good day for America.

No American citizen conspired with Russia to sway the election.

If you are not happy about this, check your patriotism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The key word is "knowingly". This conclusion just means they didn't "deliberately" conspire with Russia or there wasn't even enough evidence to show that they "intended" to do something unlawful.


The SC didn't say "knowingly." CNN did. A poster here did.

The SC said there was no collusion despite several attempts on the part of Russian-associated people to get them to.
That, my friend, is exoneration on the collusion/conspiracy allegation.


It certainly is.

I love it!


The Special counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”


That quote was in regard to obstruction, friend.
Read the report. Don't get your headlines from CNN.
And, the SC chose not to make decisions regarding obstruction. Likely because there was no underlying crime to obstruct.


More from the BARR letter: The Special Counsel did not draw a conclusion, "one way or the other," as to whether Trump's examined conduct constituted obstruction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is actually a good day for America.

No American citizen conspired with Russia to sway the election.

If you are not happy about this, check your patriotism.


+1
Anonymous
Individual 1 still has legal problems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is actually a good day for America.

No American citizen conspired with Russia to sway the election.

If you are not happy about this, check your patriotism.


This is early days; our representatives haven't seen the full report, the public has not seen the full report.

So far, I am happy that it does not look like our president is a traitor, but that is a low bar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The key word is "knowingly". This conclusion just means they didn't "deliberately" conspire with Russia or there wasn't even enough evidence to show that they "intended" to do something unlawful.


The SC didn't say "knowingly." CNN did. A poster here did.

The SC said there was no collusion despite several attempts on the part of Russian-associated people to get them to.
That, my friend, is exoneration on the collusion/conspiracy allegation.


It certainly is.

I love it!


The Special counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”


That quote was in regard to obstruction, friend.
Read the report. Don't get your headlines from CNN.
And, the SC chose not to make decisions regarding obstruction. Likely because there was no underlying crime to obstruct.


More from the BARR letter: The Special Counsel did not draw a conclusion, "one way or the other," as to whether Trump's examined conduct constituted obstruction.


Nobody needs your speculation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The key word is "knowingly". This conclusion just means they didn't "deliberately" conspire with Russia or there wasn't even enough evidence to show that they "intended" to do something unlawful.


The SC didn't say "knowingly." CNN did. A poster here did.

The SC said there was no collusion despite several attempts on the part of Russian-associated people to get them to.
That, my friend, is exoneration on the collusion/conspiracy allegation.


It certainly is.

I love it!


The Special counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”


That quote was in regard to obstruction, friend.
Read the report. Don't get your headlines from CNN.
And, the SC chose not to make decisions regarding obstruction. Likely because there was no underlying crime to obstruct.


More from the BARR letter: The Special Counsel did not draw a conclusion, "one way or the other," as to whether Trump's examined conduct constituted obstruction.


Nobody needs your speculation.


This is a discussion board. You don't get to shut down speculation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is actually a good day for America.

No American citizen conspired with Russia to sway the election.

If you are not happy about this, check your patriotism.


+1


ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. You guys are hilarious. Patriotism....ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

If you are a patriot, you should be offended and horrified but what came out of this investigation, whether it leads to indictments of the POTUS or not. He surrounded himself with criminals and even if not indicted, has shown himself to be a man with no moral or ethical compass.

Good Lord save us from these "patriots".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is actually a good day for America.

No American citizen conspired with Russia to sway the election.

If you are not happy about this, check your patriotism.


This is early days; our representatives haven't seen the full report, the public has not seen the full report.

So far, I am happy that it does not look like our president is a traitor, but that is a low bar.


Do. you think Barr is misrepresenting the report?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is actually a good day for America.

No American citizen conspired with Russia to sway the election.

If you are not happy about this, check your patriotism.


+1


+2
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat and I expected nothing more from this investigation, honestly. If you read things other than far left Twitter, it was pretty obvious. But there are still loads of investigations ongoing from the other federal courts, and financial crimes are still crimes. I’m quite sure the Trump org’s shady at best, illegal at worst, financial dealings would have never made public had he never run for president. As soon as he’s out of office, he’s done.

If 6 people in the Obama or Hillary Clinton campaigns were indicted and sentenced to years in prison, right-wingers would be foaming at the mouth. Don’t pretend like this is some “no big deal” thing when, if the shoe was on the other foot, Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media would be screaming about it.


It's March 2019 (almost April). This investigation didn't prove anything. It wasted taxpayers' money and investigators' time. Pelosi said it was a waste of time to impeach. Elections are around the corner. His base feels vindicated. No one to date is running against Trump. Hogan was a hopeful but said if Mueller's report proved nothing, he wouldn't throw his name in.

Either the Ds get their act together, or we have MAGA 2020. I live in an area that's MAGA. Trump did not disappoint many of my neighbors.

Ds better wake up b/c the Neo Ds have destroyed moderation.



There were 34 indictments. How is that nothing?


Here are the indictments - http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/
Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation

Unless these indictments are directly connected to a crime Trump committed, guess what???????

People around him have fallen. That's a smart way to run a crooked business. Create a fortress around you and watch everyone fall while you remain safe.

again - Who's pinning anything on Trump? This is a MAGA person's dream!


So MAGA people acknowledge that he is a criminal who runs criminal enterprises and watches while the criminals that work for him always take the fall and they are happy about this. He is no better than a mob boss and they love him for it.

This is why MAGA people are indeed deplorable.
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