Where are your kids Getting in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s just recalculating. It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.

So you’re saying that the GPA of kids admitted to Maryland is higher than that of kids admitted to Harvard, Penn, MIT, Brown, Williams, etc? That is so delusional that it straddles the line between funny and scary

That is exactly what Prep Scholar says for all of these GPA’s. Just verified them all. Only ones higher are a few UC’s which specifically state they DO count and use weighted grades 10th and 11th grade. But they at least, as a state, cap OOS enrollment to 15% and have at least 6 state schools worth applying to.

Prep scholar is not a reliable source of information. If you go to the school admissions or CDS you will see where these numbers come from. In some cases they say they are admitted students vs. enrolled. In some cases it specifies weighted or unweighted (unless over 4.0, then obviously weighted).

[Anonymous]

I am the poster who mentioned recalculating, and agree citing prep scholar is worthless.

But the other poster missed the point as well. UMD is not "using" only weighted GPAs. It recalculates for its own purposes, one of which is being able to evaluate schools that do not weigh classes.

Other schools do this as well, and it is more important at the better schools mentioned (Harvard, Williams etc) particularly where they have many, many more private apps that UMD.

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Anonymous wrote:So if your HE doesn’t weight AP and honors courses, you are screwed for UMD? Most private schools don’t weight these classes.

My private school kid just got into UMD-CP Honors College. No weighting.

And what was his GPA and scores?

I am not going to out him, but they are good.

Another one. Unless you give your kids name outright, no one is going to know. Whatever.

Small private school, got into Honors College. It’s a limited universe of people.

Why aren't you saying what his weighted GPA is then? Why do you keep responding to people saying "nope" and then posting your ONE child got in from ONE private, but can't post anything. There are over 103 ranked private high schools in Maryland and over 200 total. No one is outing you.

[Anonymous]

Our DD was just admitted last month to JMU with a 3.4 GPA/3.7 WGPA

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Since there's so much discussion about UMD CP, I'll contribute. Dc got accepted with 4.0W & 35ACT. We are OOS.

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Anonymous wrote:So if your HE doesn’t weight AP and honors courses, you are screwed for UMD? Most private schools don’t weight these classes.

My private school kid just got into UMD-CP Honors College. No weighting.

And what was his GPA and scores?

I am not going to out him, but they are good.

Another one. Unless you give your kids name outright, no one is going to know. Whatever.

Small private school, got into Honors College. It’s a limited universe of people.

Why aren't you saying what his weighted GPA is then? Why do you keep responding to people saying "nope" and then posting your ONE child got in from ONE private, but can't post anything. There are over 103 ranked private high schools in Maryland and over 200 total. No one is outing you.

The school doesn’t weight. That is the point. PP above asserted that kids from private schools that don’t weight are screwed at UMD. Certainly is not the case for DC.

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Can the stupid catholic school lady going on and on every other post with the same baseless comment, go to another thread.

Can we get back to posting acceptions and rejections?

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Anonymous wrote:That’s just recalculating. It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.

Exactly. They don’t use the high school weighting. They use their own.

Well I have yet to see any student under a 4.0 get into UMCP this year on college confidential unless their weighted was above 4.0. I highly doubt the kids admitted here are smarter than these top schools with lower GPA averages. Something doesn’t add up here.

Looking at average GPA here:

UMCP 4.3

Penn 3.9
Brown 4.0
UC Berkeley 3.8
Harvard 4.1
UMich 3.8
MIT 4.1
Wisc 3.8
Notre Dame 4.0
BU 3.6
Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.7
Williams 4.0
UVA 4.1

If you’re using College Confidential as your data source you’re doing it wrong.

This data may come from Common Data Sets, though, which comes directly from the colleges. What I've seen is publics like UNC Chapel Hill may have higher GPAs than any top private. (UNC-CH also has higher GPAs than UVA and W&M, BTW.) This may just mean those states have grade inflation at the high school level.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s just recalculating. It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.

Exactly. They don’t use the high school weighting. They use their own.

Well I have yet to see any student under a 4.0 get into UMCP this year on college confidential unless their weighted was above 4.0. I highly doubt the kids admitted here are smarter than these top schools with lower GPA averages. Something doesn’t add up here.

Looking at average GPA here:

UMCP 4.3

Penn 3.9
Brown 4.0
UC Berkeley 3.8
Harvard 4.1
UMich 3.8
MIT 4.1
Wisc 3.8
Notre Dame 4.0
BU 3.6
Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.7
Williams 4.0
UVA 4.1

If you’re using College Confidential as your data source you’re doing it wrong.

This data may come from Common Data Sets, though, which comes directly from the colleges. What I've seen is publics like UNC Chapel Hill may have higher GPAs than any top private. (UNC-CH also has higher GPAs than UVA and W&M, BTW.) This may just mean those states have grade inflation at the high school level.

Interesting. I checked and UNC Chapel Hill was 4.7 for 2018-19. Harvard was 4.18 for 2017-18. UVA was 4.3 and W&M was 4.24. We can only conclude, then, that UNC is the most selective school, and Harvard is the least selective of these.

[Anonymous]

Well UNCHEAT did have 20 years of fraudulent classes.

[Anonymous]

Our D accepted:

GMU Honors
VCU
JMU
Pitt

Rejected:

Florida

Waiting:

VATECH
UVA
W&M

We are in NOVA. FCPS with 4.2W 8 APs and a 1280 SAT. lots of volunteers hrs, and all the rest.

Will be pre-MED in college.

Unfortunately, in the end, the SAT got her and we know W&M, UVA, and Florida would be reaches. But what the hell. Got to give it a try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s just recalculating. It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.

Exactly. They don’t use the high school weighting. They use their own.

Well I have yet to see any student under a 4.0 get into UMCP this year on college confidential unless their weighted was above 4.0. I highly doubt the kids admitted here are smarter than these top schools with lower GPA averages. Something doesn’t add up here.

Looking at average GPA here:

UMCP 4.3

Penn 3.9
Brown 4.0
UC Berkeley 3.8
Harvard 4.1
UMich 3.8
MIT 4.1
Wisc 3.8
Notre Dame 4.0
BU 3.6
Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.7
Williams 4.0
UVA 4.1

If you’re using College Confidential as your data source you’re doing it wrong.

This data may come from Common Data Sets, though, which comes directly from the colleges. What I've seen is publics like UNC Chapel Hill may have higher GPAs than any top private. (UNC-CH also has higher GPAs than UVA and W&M, BTW.) This may just mean those states have grade inflation at the high school level.

Colleges are permitted to submit GPA data in their common data set as they see fit. Some reports contain unweighted, while others have weighted, recalculated, or no GPA data at all. The UMCP average GPA is obviously weighted and is pretty worthless considering all of the MCPS kids with ridiculously inflated GPAs in the mix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s just recalculating. It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.

Exactly. They don’t use the high school weighting. They use their own.

Well I have yet to see any student under a 4.0 get into UMCP this year on college confidential unless their weighted was above 4.0. I highly doubt the kids admitted here are smarter than these top schools with lower GPA averages. Something doesn’t add up here.

Looking at average GPA here:

UMCP 4.3

Penn 3.9
Brown 4.0
UC Berkeley 3.8
Harvard 4.1
UMich 3.8
MIT 4.1
Wisc 3.8
Notre Dame 4.0
BU 3.6
Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.7
Williams 4.0
UVA 4.1

If you’re using College Confidential as your data source you’re doing it wrong.

This data may come from Common Data Sets, though, which comes directly from the colleges. What I've seen is publics like UNC Chapel Hill may have higher GPAs than any top private. (UNC-CH also has higher GPAs than UVA and W&M, BTW.) This may just mean those states have grade inflation at the high school level.

Colleges are permitted to submit GPA data in their common data set as they see fit. Some reports contain unweighted, while others have weighted, recalculated, or no GPA data at all. The UMCP average GPA is obviously weighted and is pretty worthless considering all of the MCPS kids with ridiculously inflated GPAs in the mix.

Agree and I think that is the whole point of the issue here. How can kids in non-weighted schools even compete. I know kids in top college prep schools with great unweighted GPA's getting into ivy's, but getting rejected from UVA and UMCP. That is fine for the families that can afford top private colleges. But for a family on financial aid at Sidwell (with no AP's offered, but obvious high rigor) as a Maryland resident, may only be able to afford UMCP. 25-30% of the kids at those type of schools are on financial aid. Where do they end up I wonder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s just recalculating. It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.

Exactly. They don’t use the high school weighting. They use their own.

Well I have yet to see any student under a 4.0 get into UMCP this year on college confidential unless their weighted was above 4.0. I highly doubt the kids admitted here are smarter than these top schools with lower GPA averages. Something doesn’t add up here.

Looking at average GPA here:

UMCP 4.3

Penn 3.9
Brown 4.0
UC Berkeley 3.8
Harvard 4.1
UMich 3.8
MIT 4.1
Wisc 3.8
Notre Dame 4.0
BU 3.6
Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.7
Williams 4.0
UVA 4.1

If you’re using College Confidential as your data source you’re doing it wrong.

This data may come from Common Data Sets, though, which comes directly from the colleges. What I've seen is publics like UNC Chapel Hill may have higher GPAs than any top private. (UNC-CH also has higher GPAs than UVA and W&M, BTW.) This may just mean those states have grade inflation at the high school level.

Colleges are permitted to submit GPA data in their common data set as they see fit. Some reports contain unweighted, while others have weighted, recalculated, or no GPA data at all. The UMCP average GPA is obviously weighted and is pretty worthless considering all of the MCPS kids with ridiculously inflated GPAs in the mix.

Agree and I think that is the whole point of the issue here. How can kids in non-weighted schools even compete. I know kids in top college prep schools with great unweighted GPA's getting into ivy's, but getting rejected from UVA and UMCP. That is fine for the families that can afford top private colleges. But for a family on financial aid at Sidwell (with no AP's offered, but obvious high rigor) as a Maryland resident, may only be able to afford UMCP. 25-30% of the kids at those type of schools are on financial aid. Where do they end up I wonder?

Why don’t you ask your child’s counselor at Sidwell.

[Anonymous]

They go to other publics in the mid west and south and get some merit aid.