Loudoun Struggles in ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:FCV has 100% win rate in DA in all age groups this season. They have national youth teams call ups. Loudoun is struggling in ECNL. I have hard time believing that FCV 07 team would be an aberration and struggle simply because Loudoun joined ECNL.

Do you fail to understand the landscape or are you just a parrot?

04-01 FCV teams were formed when ECNL was the clear cut top league. Loudoun had lost players in those age groups a loooong time ago and ECNL did not bring those players back from FCV or McLean.

The 05 and 06 team were quickly formed due to the short lived Loudoun/FCV merger. Those kids had an understanding if not offers well before Loudoun was awarded ECNL.

ECNL was announced during the FCV ID process. Before the announcement, Loudoun kids were at FCV in droves. After the announcement nobody went, zero, nothing zip.

The 07 tryouts were a joke. A few people came out of curiosity but left shaking their heads like walking out of a empty restaurant at peak dinner rush. FCV can't fill their younger age groups and frankly with so many options most people are staying at their clubs. Whether you want to admit it or not, parents realize that they no longer need FCV or McLean anymore.

+1 This history is exactly right. Loudoun 07 will stay home with an easy and very good option called ECNL. You think Mclean kids are not content with their home option? Or Braddock? PP gets it.

Spirit and FCV will have to make what they have work. For FCV, that is not much.

Then for Spirit it is even less, just saying At least FCV can turn to their older DA teams and say "look what you can become" What does Spirit say "look at what loosing looks like, better get used to it, but hey we are developing you "

Actually, Spirit’s senior DA team is doing pretty well after only a little over a year of developing together, but carry on with your FCV nonsense

They are 2-1 this year, loosing to FCV who is 4-0. In fact, they are the only Spirit team that has won a game. But carry on with your Spirit Kool Aid drinking, keep believing that it is not about the wins, it is about the development. At some point development turns in to wins or the "developers" are not doing their job or the "developees" are just not that good, you pick.

Are you saying the national team players on Spirit's pro team are not any good because their team does not have a winning record?

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Anonymous wrote:Mclean isnt that good

Time to start a “McLean Struggles in ECNL” thread and start pimping FCV to them.

McLean, VDA and Richmond United are doing much better than Loudoun in ECNL with some of their teams in the first or second place in standings so I doubt there will be threads like you suggest.

Richmond United has the advantage of being the only ECNL in central Virginia and no DA at all to compete with. Every other program has at least some potential competition within a plausible driving distance. So every other program must in the end be able to recruit, develop and retain to be a quality program. Regardless of whether it is DA or ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:Mclean isnt that good

Time to start a “McLean Struggles in ECNL” thread and start pimping FCV to them.

McLean, VDA and Richmond United are doing much better than Loudoun in ECNL with some of their teams in the first or second place in standings so I doubt there will be threads like you suggest.

Richmond United has the advantage of being the only ECNL in central Virginia and no DA at all to compete with. Every other program has at least some potential competition within a plausible driving distance. So every other program must in the end be able to recruit, develop and retain to be a quality program. Regardless of whether it is DA or ECNL

FCV will continue to use their winning record as a recruiting pitch. They may succeed again with the 07 pool. But buyer beware. I encourage everyone to read the previous discussions about FCV before deciding FCV is right for them.

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Anonymous wrote:FCV has 100% win rate in DA in all age groups this season. They have national youth teams call ups. Loudoun is struggling in ECNL. I have hard time believing that FCV 07 team would be an aberration and struggle simply because Loudoun joined ECNL.

Do you fail to understand the landscape or are you just a parrot?

04-01 FCV teams were formed when ECNL was the clear cut top league. Loudoun had lost players in those age groups a loooong time ago and ECNL did not bring those players back from FCV or McLean.

The 05 and 06 team were quickly formed due to the short lived Loudoun/FCV merger. Those kids had an understanding if not offers well before Loudoun was awarded ECNL.

ECNL was announced during the FCV ID process. Before the announcement, Loudoun kids were at FCV in droves. After the announcement nobody went, zero, nothing zip.

The 07 tryouts were a joke. A few people came out of curiosity but left shaking their heads like walking out of a empty restaurant at peak dinner rush. FCV can't fill their younger age groups and frankly with so many options most people are staying at their clubs. Whether you want to admit it or not, parents realize that they no longer need FCV or McLean anymore.

+1 This history is exactly right. Loudoun 07 will stay home with an easy and very good option called ECNL. You think Mclean kids are not content with their home option? Or Braddock? PP gets it.

Spirit and FCV will have to make what they have work. For FCV, that is not much.

Then for Spirit it is even less, just saying At least FCV can turn to their older DA teams and say "look what you can become" What does Spirit say "look at what loosing looks like, better get used to it, but hey we are developing you "

Actually, Spirit’s senior DA team is doing pretty well after only a little over a year of developing together, but carry on with your FCV nonsense

They are 2-1 this year, loosing to FCV who is 4-0. In fact, they are the only Spirit team that has won a game. But carry on with your Spirit Kool Aid drinking, keep believing that it is not about the wins, it is about the development. At some point development turns in to wins or the "developers" are not doing their job or the "developees" are just not that good, you pick.

Are you saying the national team players on Spirit's pro team are not any good because their team does not have a winning record?

No, I am saying that the "developers" are not doing their job, which is why Jim G. was let go. Also, would not assume that anything that goes on in the pro ranks trickles its way down to the DA, at least not that I saw.

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Anonymous wrote:FCV has 100% win rate in DA in all age groups this season. They have national youth teams call ups. Loudoun is struggling in ECNL. I have hard time believing that FCV 07 team would be an aberration and struggle simply because Loudoun joined ECNL.

Do you fail to understand the landscape or are you just a parrot?

04-01 FCV teams were formed when ECNL was the clear cut top league. Loudoun had lost players in those age groups a loooong time ago and ECNL did not bring those players back from FCV or McLean.

The 05 and 06 team were quickly formed due to the short lived Loudoun/FCV merger. Those kids had an understanding if not offers well before Loudoun was awarded ECNL.

ECNL was announced during the FCV ID process. Before the announcement, Loudoun kids were at FCV in droves. After the announcement nobody went, zero, nothing zip.

The 07 tryouts were a joke. A few people came out of curiosity but left shaking their heads like walking out of a empty restaurant at peak dinner rush. FCV can't fill their younger age groups and frankly with so many options most people are staying at their clubs. Whether you want to admit it or not, parents realize that they no longer need FCV or McLean anymore.

+1 This history is exactly right. Loudoun 07 will stay home with an easy and very good option called ECNL. You think Mclean kids are not content with their home option? Or Braddock? PP gets it.

Spirit and FCV will have to make what they have work. For FCV, that is not much.

Then for Spirit it is even less, just saying At least FCV can turn to their older DA teams and say "look what you can become" What does Spirit say "look at what loosing looks like, better get used to it, but hey we are developing you "

Actually, Spirit’s senior DA team is doing pretty well after only a little over a year of developing together, but carry on with your FCV nonsense

They are 2-1 this year, loosing to FCV who is 4-0. In fact, they are the only Spirit team that has won a game. But carry on with your Spirit Kool Aid drinking, keep believing that it is not about the wins, it is about the development. At some point development turns in to wins or the "developers" are not doing their job or the "developees" are just not that good, you pick.

Are you saying the national team players on Spirit's pro team are not any good because their team does not have a winning record?

No, I am saying that the "developers" are not doing their job, which is why Jim G. was let go. Also, would not assume that anything that goes on in the pro ranks trickles its way down to the DA, at least not that I saw.

Last time I checked Spirit VA and Spirit pro team have same head coach at least for now. He is very involved with the entire VA Academy (U13 through U19).

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More garbage from FCV. Gabarra lost his job because of the pro teams record. It had nothing to do with DA development.

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FCV posters are like school in the summertime - No Class.

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I am the OP. Let me sum up the responses to the original question as to why Loudoun teams are struggling in ECNL. The following explanations were given: (1) top Loudoun players went to FCV, and to a lesser extent Washington Spirit and ECNL clubs because Loudoun did not play in an elite level league; (2) now that Loudoun has joined ECNL, its teams are not used to a higher speed of play that CCL did not prepare them for. Both explanations make sense to me. Any other reasons?

I have no interest in discussing 07 teams at Loudoun or FCV or any other club. They don't play in ECNL. You can create your own thread and continue your petty squabbles there.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. Let me sum up the responses to the original question as to why Loudoun teams are struggling in ECNL. The following explanations were given: (1) top Loudoun players went to FCV, and to a lesser extent Washington Spirit and ECNL clubs because Loudoun did not play in an elite level league; (2) now that Loudoun has joined ECNL, its teams are not used to a higher speed of play that CCL did not prepare them for. Both explanations make sense to me. Any other reasons?

I have no interest in discussing 07 teams at Loudoun or FCV or any other club. They don't play in ECNL. You can create your own thread and continue your petty squabbles there.

It is your premise that NCSL and NPL’s “speed of play” somehow better prepares FCV for DA than CCL?

Good grief, you are a fool.

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Yeah this thread did not go like you planned did it? Oops.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time I checked Spirit VA and Spirit pro team have same head coach at least for now. He is very involved with the entire VA Academy (U13 through U19)

Not sure that is a compliment to either. The Spirit VA program is a joke. If it weren't an NWSL and US Soccer is desperate for clubs, they'd be laughed out of the DA.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. Let me sum up the responses to the original question as to why Loudoun teams are struggling in ECNL. The following explanations were given: (1) top Loudoun players went to FCV, and to a lesser extent Washington Spirit and ECNL clubs because Loudoun did not play in an elite level league; (2) now that Loudoun has joined ECNL, its teams are not used to a higher speed of play that CCL did not prepare them for. Both explanations make sense to me. Any other reasons?

I have no interest in discussing 07 teams at Loudoun or FCV or any other club. They don't play in ECNL. You can create your own thread and continue your petty squabbles there.

It is your premise that NCSL and NPL’s “speed of play” somehow better prepares FCV for DA than CCL?

Good grief, you are a fool.

I don't see any references to NCSL or NPL in my post. The reference to CCL's slower speed of play was taken from another poster, who suggested it as a reason for Loudoun's struggles. You can take your insecurities elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah this thread did not go like you planned did it? Oops.

I guess this is not the first and not the last thread to be diverted from the original topic.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. Let me sum up the responses to the original question as to why Loudoun teams are struggling in ECNL. The following explanations were given: (1) top Loudoun players went to FCV, and to a lesser extent Washington Spirit and ECNL clubs because Loudoun did not play in an elite level league; (2) now that Loudoun has joined ECNL, its teams are not used to a higher speed of play that CCL did not prepare them for. Both explanations make sense to me. Any other reasons?

I have no interest in discussing 07 teams at Loudoun or FCV or any other club. They don't play in ECNL. You can create your own thread and continue your petty squabbles there.

And you own this thread? Sorry doesn't work this way bud.

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Anonymous wrote:FCV has 100% win rate in DA in all age groups this season. They have national youth teams call ups. Loudoun is struggling in ECNL. I have hard time believing that FCV 07 team would be an aberration and struggle simply because Loudoun joined ECNL.

Do you fail to understand the landscape or are you just a parrot?

04-01 FCV teams were formed when ECNL was the clear cut top league. Loudoun had lost players in those age groups a loooong time ago and ECNL did not bring those players back from FCV or McLean.

The 05 and 06 team were quickly formed due to the short lived Loudoun/FCV merger. Those kids had an understanding if not offers well before Loudoun was awarded ECNL.

ECNL was announced during the FCV ID process. Before the announcement, Loudoun kids were at FCV in droves. After the announcement nobody went, zero, nothing zip.

The 07 tryouts were a joke. A few people came out of curiosity but left shaking their heads like walking out of a empty restaurant at peak dinner rush. FCV can't fill their younger age groups and frankly with so many options most people are staying at their clubs. Whether you want to admit it or not, parents realize that they no longer need FCV or McLean anymore.

+1 This history is exactly right. Loudoun 07 will stay home with an easy and very good option called ECNL. You think Mclean kids are not content with their home option? Or Braddock? PP gets it.

Spirit and FCV will have to make what they have work. For FCV, that is not much.

Then for Spirit it is even less, just saying At least FCV can turn to their older DA teams and say "look what you can become" What does Spirit say "look at what loosing looks like, better get used to it, but hey we are developing you "

That's pretty funny!! Accurate, but funny!!