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Anonymous wrote:That scene in the final episode - where the sheriff overslept. What was the significance of that? His wife usually woke first and put everything out for him, and that was their morning ritual. But in that episode he wakes up abruptly and she’s still in bed (not his bed, I don’t think). I was a bit confused but maybe I’m being dim?

The electricity had gone off in the night - he wakes up with a bead of sweat rolling down his face and notices that the fan isn't blowing. He jumps out of bed because he knows he's late for the debriefing at the station.

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Anonymous wrote:That scene in the final episode - where the sheriff overslept. What was the significance of that? His wife usually woke first and put everything out for him, and that was their morning ritual. But in that episode he wakes up abruptly and she’s still in bed (not his bed, I don’t think). I was a bit confused but maybe I’m being dim?

It was interesting that before that she was always up first making his breakfast, so no questions were raised about them not sleeping in the same bed. Maybe revealing that they sleep separately was supposed to give some credence to the affair theory? Neither the sheriff or Adora sleep with their spouses.

Also, if the fan does represent Adora it could be a sign that the jig is up for her.

But they weren't sleeping separately. They both slept in the same bed. Adora and Alan, however, did not sleep together.

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Anonymous wrote:But there was the clip of a girl being held down by a bunch of girls on the grass and it looks like Camille's sister is trying to pull her teeth out. So she had help b/f but killed the girl in St. Louis all by herself?

Yes. In the book, they make it clear, but eluded to it during the flash sequence at the end of the credits - Amma killed the two girls but her friends (who she roller skated with) helped her. She killed the girl in St. Louis by herself.

I think the story was trying to do too many things. The cutting, gang rape, the psycho serial killing sister and her henchmen, the munchausen by proxy that was protected by the dad and the sheriff—affair or not.

the mom was a colossal weirdo in a small town. There’s no way there wouldn’t have been whispers about her. Also, not sure if someone that much of wanting sympathy would take the rap for 2 murders she didn’t commit. She would be hated by the community. Mothers with munchausen by proxy were often seen as long suffering saints—until they were found out.

Also rat poison and antifreeze would show up in blood work.

This is what I couldn't understand about Marion, the middle sister. She had been to the doctor/hospital so many times due to her "mystery illnesses," and yet they never detected the poison in her bloodwork?

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Anonymous wrote:But there was the clip of a girl being held down by a bunch of girls on the grass and it looks like Camille's sister is trying to pull her teeth out. So she had help b/f but killed the girl in St. Louis all by herself?

Yes. In the book, they make it clear, but eluded to it during the flash sequence at the end of the credits - Amma killed the two girls but her friends (who she roller skated with) helped her. She killed the girl in St. Louis by herself.

I think the story was trying to do too many things. The cutting, gang rape, the psycho serial killing sister and her henchmen, the munchausen by proxy that was protected by the dad and the sheriff—affair or not.

the mom was a colossal weirdo in a small town. There’s no way there wouldn’t have been whispers about her. Also, not sure if someone that much of wanting sympathy would take the rap for 2 murders she didn’t commit. She would be hated by the community. Mothers with munchausen by proxy were often seen as long suffering saints—until they were found out.

She pled not guilty in the courtroom scene.

They found bloody pliers in her kitchen. She would have known her daughter was the murderer.

Also, murdering two young girls and pulling their teeth out. That teen aged girl didn’t even clean her own room. You would have thought the mom or the maid would have stumbled over some bloody clothes somewhere.

In the credits scene of the killing that took place in the woods the helper girls were wearing coveralls from the pig processing facility.

DP. OHHH! I thought they were wearing lab coats, but now that makes sense. The credits scenes were very hard to make out, probably deliberately so.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe Adora knew about Amma. Recall the scene where Adora threatened to take away the dollhouse if Amma wasn't compliant to taking medicine. Looks were exchanged and emotions re was a mutual understanding. Adora knew exactly how to push Amma's buttons.

My feeling re: that scene was that Adora was threatening to stop doing nice things for Amma - making her grilled cheese sandwiches, giving her attention, letting her be a little girl, keeping the dollhouse, etc. - if Amma didn't comply and get in bed, take her "medicine," etc. I don't know if Adora knew about the killings... I kind of feel like the two of them had this sick kind of deal where Amma would agree to "be sick" and Adora would be there to "take care of her." It's like they both fed off of the other's sickness.

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Anonymous wrote:That scene in the final episode - where the sheriff overslept. What was the significance of that? His wife usually woke first and put everything out for him, and that was their morning ritual. But in that episode he wakes up abruptly and she’s still in bed (not his bed, I don’t think). I was a bit confused but maybe I’m being dim?

It was interesting that before that she was always up first making his breakfast, so no questions were raised about them not sleeping in the same bed. Maybe revealing that they sleep separately was supposed to give some credence to the affair theory? Neither the sheriff or Adora sleep with their spouses.

Also, if the fan does represent Adora it could be a sign that the jig is up for her.

But they weren't sleeping separately. They both slept in the same bed. Adora and Alan, however, did not sleep together.

You’re right. I just rewatched that scene and they were in the same bed.

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Anonymous wrote:But there was the clip of a girl being held down by a bunch of girls on the grass and it looks like Camille's sister is trying to pull her teeth out. So she had help b/f but killed the girl in St. Louis all by herself?

Yes. In the book, they make it clear, but eluded to it during the flash sequence at the end of the credits - Amma killed the two girls but her friends (who she roller skated with) helped her. She killed the girl in St. Louis by herself.

I think the story was trying to do too many things. The cutting, gang rape, the psycho serial killing sister and her henchmen, the munchausen by proxy that was protected by the dad and the sheriff—affair or not.

the mom was a colossal weirdo in a small town. There’s no way there wouldn’t have been whispers about her. Also, not sure if someone that much of wanting sympathy would take the rap for 2 murders she didn’t commit. She would be hated by the community. Mothers with munchausen by proxy were often seen as long suffering saints—until they were found out.

She pled not guilty in the courtroom scene.

They found bloody pliers in her kitchen. She would have known her daughter was the murderer.

Also, murdering two young girls and pulling their teeth out. That teen aged girl didn’t even clean her own room. You would have thought the mom or the maid would have stumbled over some bloody clothes somewhere.

In the credits scene of the killing that took place in the woods the helper girls were wearing coveralls from the pig processing facility.

You would think that after finding the bike in the pig cess pool, that investigators might actually search the pig processing plant—for you know—clues.

how do little Lolita wanna bees traipse into pig processing plant, steal coveralls, then replace them without being noticed by anyone who worked there.

the kid on the bike seemed like a spur of the moment crime given that it wasn’t a bike ride that happened with predictability, eg to and from school.

How did they collect enough blood to plant under weepy boy’s bed without contaminating it with their own dna or particles from the crime scene? Holding down a screaming girl in the woods wouldn’t exactly facilitate this. Plus investigators can tell how old blood is. You’d have to smear it when wet. Even if they had access to the guy’s house that’s a pretty interesting feat. They’d have to do it very quickly after the murder or refrigerate it.

What was the kid on the bike crime? I must have missed that one. I think the girls killed Natalie in the guesthouse where Natalie's brother was living? Didn't they all hang out at the pool together? There were several confusing details that I'm not sure of.

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This answers a lot of the questions here: https://mashable.com/2018/08/27/sharp-objects-ending-explained-book-questions-answers/#M1zKBA5T7Oqp

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Anonymous wrote:But there was the clip of a girl being held down by a bunch of girls on the grass and it looks like Camille's sister is trying to pull her teeth out. So she had help b/f but killed the girl in St. Louis all by herself?

Yes. In the book, they make it clear, but eluded to it during the flash sequence at the end of the credits - Amma killed the two girls but her friends (who she roller skated with) helped her. She killed the girl in St. Louis by herself.

I think the story was trying to do too many things. The cutting, gang rape, the psycho serial killing sister and her henchmen, the munchausen by proxy that was protected by the dad and the sheriff—affair or not.

the mom was a colossal weirdo in a small town. There’s no way there wouldn’t have been whispers about her. Also, not sure if someone that much of wanting sympathy would take the rap for 2 murders she didn’t commit. She would be hated by the community. Mothers with munchausen by proxy were often seen as long suffering saints—until they were found out.

She pled not guilty in the courtroom scene.

They found bloody pliers in her kitchen. She would have known her daughter was the murderer.

Also, murdering two young girls and pulling their teeth out. That teen aged girl didn’t even clean her own room. You would have thought the mom or the maid would have stumbled over some bloody clothes somewhere.

In the credits scene of the killing that took place in the woods the helper girls were wearing coveralls from the pig processing facility.

You would think that after finding the bike in the pig cess pool, that investigators might actually search the pig processing plant—for you know—clues.

how do little Lolita wanna bees traipse into pig processing plant, steal coveralls, then replace them without being noticed by anyone who worked there.

the kid on the bike seemed like a spur of the moment crime given that it wasn’t a bike ride that happened with predictability, eg to and from school.

How did they collect enough blood to plant under weepy boy’s bed without contaminating it with their own dna or particles from the crime scene? Holding down a screaming girl in the woods wouldn’t exactly facilitate this. Plus investigators can tell how old blood is. You’d have to smear it when wet. Even if they had access to the guy’s house that’s a pretty interesting feat. They’d have to do it very quickly after the murder or refrigerate it.

There was a scene that showed that Amma had pretty free reign at her mom’s pig facility. I don’t think getting the coveralls would have been a problem.

Natalie was killed in her brother’s guest house apartment.

So why wasn’t the guest house searched at the time she went missing? Family is always suspected first. It would be hard not to get hair or other trace evidence left behind in addition to the blood. Odd that they didn’t habe blood on those clothes.

Nash’s daughter was killed in the Woods. Still not sure how they’d have the coveralls at the ready to randomly attack on her bike ride.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to talk about symbolism? I took the frequent fan shots to symbolize things that offer comfort but are dangerous if you get too close- like Adora.

Was Camille’s choice of a Volvo a craving for safety?

Camille’s hair was short at the time of her sister’s death, probably as rebellion and/or protection against her mother’s attention. Why did she grow it long after that?

I was trying to interpret the meaning of the fans, too. I like your theory about comfort and danger. My thought was the fans represent endless cycles, especially regarding abuse, neglect, self-medication, etc. Also Wind Gap’s insistence on reliving the “glory days” of the confederacy, modern day race relations in the city, people’s permanent “roles” in life.

Are fans a motif in the book as well? I liked their use as a visual mechanism to segue into each flashback sequence that happened when Camille was high. It seemed that Camille had PTSD, and seeing the familiar fans while in an altered state triggered her repressed memories (that we now know also happened while she was drugged by Adora as a child). I think the fans represent Camille's altered states, the altered reality of her toxic childhood, and the altered lens through which she views both past and present, on a subconscious level.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe Adora knew about Amma. Recall the scene where Adora threatened to take away the dollhouse if Amma wasn't compliant to taking medicine. Looks were exchanged and emotions re was a mutual understanding. Adora knew exactly how to push Amma's buttons.

My feeling re: that scene was that Adora was threatening to stop doing nice things for Amma - making her grilled cheese sandwiches, giving her attention, letting her be a little girl, keeping the dollhouse, etc. - if Amma didn't comply and get in bed, take her "medicine," etc. I don't know if Adora knew about the killings... I kind of feel like the two of them had this sick kind of deal where Amma would agree to "be sick" and Adora would be there to "take care of her." It's like they both fed off of the other's sickness.

I think Adora knew about the killings. It seems that's at least part of the reason she was drugging Amma, to keep her controllable.

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The Sherriff's routine is off in the final episode, because the power had gone off and he woke up late, as did his wife. Fan was off and so was her alarm clock... flashing twelve. I thought that the Sheriff might turn out to be Camille's father, but I guess not!

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Anonymous wrote:The Sherriff's routine is off in the final episode, because the power had gone off and he woke up late, as did his wife. Fan was off and so was her alarm clock... flashing twelve. I thought that the Sheriff might turn out to be Camille's father, but I guess not!

I thought he might be Amma's father.

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Anonymous wrote:But there was the clip of a girl being held down by a bunch of girls on the grass and it looks like Camille's sister is trying to pull her teeth out. So she had help b/f but killed the girl in St. Louis all by herself?

Yes. In the book, they make it clear, but eluded to it during the flash sequence at the end of the credits - Amma killed the two girls but her friends (who she roller skated with) helped her. She killed the girl in St. Louis by herself.

I think the story was trying to do too many things. The cutting, gang rape, the psycho serial killing sister and her henchmen, the munchausen by proxy that was protected by the dad and the sheriff—affair or not.

the mom was a colossal weirdo in a small town. There’s no way there wouldn’t have been whispers about her. Also, not sure if someone that much of wanting sympathy would take the rap for 2 murders she didn’t commit. She would be hated by the community. Mothers with munchausen by proxy were often seen as long suffering saints—until they were found out.

She pled not guilty in the courtroom scene.

They found bloody pliers in her kitchen. She would have known her daughter was the murderer.

Also, murdering two young girls and pulling their teeth out. That teen aged girl didn’t even clean her own room. You would have thought the mom or the maid would have stumbled over some bloody clothes somewhere.

In the credits scene of the killing that took place in the woods the helper girls were wearing coveralls from the pig processing facility.

You would think that after finding the bike in the pig cess pool, that investigators might actually search the pig processing plant—for you know—clues.

how do little Lolita wanna bees traipse into pig processing plant, steal coveralls, then replace them without being noticed by anyone who worked there.

the kid on the bike seemed like a spur of the moment crime given that it wasn’t a bike ride that happened with predictability, eg to and from school.

How did they collect enough blood to plant under weepy boy’s bed without contaminating it with their own dna or particles from the crime scene? Holding down a screaming girl in the woods wouldn’t exactly facilitate this. Plus investigators can tell how old blood is. You’d have to smear it when wet. Even if they had access to the guy’s house that’s a pretty interesting feat. They’d have to do it very quickly after the murder or refrigerate it.

There was a scene that showed that Amma had pretty free reign at her mom’s pig facility. I don’t think getting the coveralls would have been a problem.

Natalie was killed in her brother’s guest house apartment.

So why wasn’t the guest house searched at the time she went missing? Family is always suspected first. It would be hard not to get hair or other trace evidence left behind in addition to the blood. Odd that they didn’t habe blood on those clothes.

Nash’s daughter was killed in the Woods. Still not sure how they’d have the coveralls at the ready to randomly attack on her bike ride.

They knew that Ann Nash was going to be riding her bike—was she going to meet them at that creepy shack?—got the coveralls from the family pig farm (remember, that’s where Adora’s money comes from), and ambushed her as planned. The guys who worked at the farm probably thought it was “cute” that the girls wanted to wear the coveralls, so no sneaking necessary. Remember when Camille followed Amma around the farm with that one young worker? And it would probably be easy to put them back with the dirty ones from the day before.

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Anonymous wrote:But there was the clip of a girl being held down by a bunch of girls on the grass and it looks like Camille's sister is trying to pull her teeth out. So she had help b/f but killed the girl in St. Louis all by herself?

Yes. In the book, they make it clear, but eluded to it during the flash sequence at the end of the credits - Amma killed the two girls but her friends (who she roller skated with) helped her. She killed the girl in St. Louis by herself.

I think the story was trying to do too many things. The cutting, gang rape, the psycho serial killing sister and her henchmen, the munchausen by proxy that was protected by the dad and the sheriff—affair or not.

the mom was a colossal weirdo in a small town. There’s no way there wouldn’t have been whispers about her. Also, not sure if someone that much of wanting sympathy would take the rap for 2 murders she didn’t commit. She would be hated by the community. Mothers with munchausen by proxy were often seen as long suffering saints—until they were found out.

She pled not guilty in the courtroom scene.

They found bloody pliers in her kitchen. She would have known her daughter was the murderer.

Also, murdering two young girls and pulling their teeth out. That teen aged girl didn’t even clean her own room. You would have thought the mom or the maid would have stumbled over some bloody clothes somewhere.

In the credits scene of the killing that took place in the woods the helper girls were wearing coveralls from the pig processing facility.

You would think that after finding the bike in the pig cess pool, that investigators might actually search the pig processing plant—for you know—clues.

how do little Lolita wanna bees traipse into pig processing plant, steal coveralls, then replace them without being noticed by anyone who worked there.

the kid on the bike seemed like a spur of the moment crime given that it wasn’t a bike ride that happened with predictability, eg to and from school.

How did they collect enough blood to plant under weepy boy’s bed without contaminating it with their own dna or particles from the crime scene? Holding down a screaming girl in the woods wouldn’t exactly facilitate this. Plus investigators can tell how old blood is. You’d have to smear it when wet. Even if they had access to the guy’s house that’s a pretty interesting feat. They’d have to do it very quickly after the murder or refrigerate it.

There was a scene that showed that Amma had pretty free reign at her mom’s pig facility. I don’t think getting the coveralls would have been a problem.

Natalie was killed in her brother’s guest house apartment.

So why wasn’t the guest house searched at the time she went missing? Family is always suspected first. It would be hard not to get hair or other trace evidence left behind in addition to the blood. Odd that they didn’t habe blood on those clothes.

Nash’s daughter was killed in the Woods. Still not sure how they’d have the coveralls at the ready to randomly attack on her bike ride.

They knew that Ann Nash was going to be riding her bike—was she going to meet them at that creepy shack?—got the coveralls from the family pig farm (remember, that’s where Adora’s money comes from), and ambushed her as planned. The guys who worked at the farm probably thought it was “cute” that the girls wanted to wear the coveralls, so no sneaking necessary. Remember when Camille followed Amma around the farm with that one young worker? And it would probably be easy to put them back with the dirty ones from the day before.

The author should account for these things. You’re working hard to fill in her plot holes.