How will Wootton or RM be affected by new high school in Crown Farm?

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My larger question is why OP has decided he/she doesn't want to be districted to the new school, when no one knows what the district for the school will even be.

Many reasons.

1. Wootton is a top school. If you get redistricted out of Wootton there is no where else to go but down.
2. Getting underwater on your house can cause substantial financial harm you if you experience a sudden situation where you need to sell (death of a spouse, health, job loss). If your house all of sudden was less 80K less than it was a year ago, this is hard to make up for many people. While no one in MOCO should ever count on appreciation, so far most have not lost too much. School rezoning changes this.
3. Its disruptive and sad for kids when their friends go to one school and they get rezoned to another school. Rezoning that splits an elementary school is particularly evil to kids.
4. They already have to get too early and the bus rides take too long. Getting bused ever farther away sucks for anyone. You want your school to be as close as possible.

Wooton is only a "top school" because its boundaries were gerrymandered to exclude low SES students. Normalize the farms rate to the county average and its scores are the same as almost anywhere else.

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Having a school with high achievers attracts other high achievers and they all influence and encourage each other to do well.

People will either say that Wootton is too hard and pressure cooker or they will say it is only because its wealthy. You can't have it both ways. If Wootton gets rezoned, it will no longer attract as many high achievers. They will just flock down to Churchill or they'll go over the river to Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a school with high achievers attracts other high achievers and they all influence and encourage each other to do well.

People will either say that Wootton is too hard and pressure cooker or they will say it is only because its wealthy. You can't have it both ways. If Wootton gets rezoned, it will no longer attract as many high achievers. They will just flock down to Churchill or they'll go over the river to Langley.

Evidently high achievers are geese. Or at least high achievers at Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a school with high achievers attracts other high achievers and they all influence and encourage each other to do well.

People will either say that Wootton is too hard and pressure cooker or they will say it is only because its wealthy. You can't have it both ways. If Wootton gets rezoned, it will no longer attract as many high achievers. They will just flock down to Churchill or they'll go over the river to Langley.

Evidently high achievers are geese. Or at least high achievers at Wootton.

The reality is these schools aren't full of high achievers per se but have managed to gerrymander their boundaries to minimize the number of low-income students. Simply adjust their test scores to reflect the county's average FARMS percentage and it turns out the school performs the same as everywhere else.

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Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

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Anonymous wrote:Having a school with high achievers attracts other high achievers and they all influence and encourage each other to do well.

People will either say that Wootton is too hard and pressure cooker or they will say it is only because its wealthy. You can't have it both ways. If Wootton gets rezoned, it will no longer attract as many high achievers. They will just flock down to Churchill or they'll go over the river to Langley.

Evidently high achievers are geese. Or at least high achievers at Wootton.

The reality is these schools aren't full of high achievers per se but have managed to gerrymander their boundaries to minimize the number of low-income students. Simply adjust their test scores to reflect the county's average FARMS percentage and it turns out the school performs the same as everywhere else.

You realize people hate it when you tear down their fantasies with reality. The problem is we set up a metric that penalizes any schools that aren't fully segregated by SES which ironically has little impact on individual outcomes. For example, a child from an upper-middle-class family will end up with roughly the same SAT scores at any MCPS school. The data the county has put out shows these averages by demographic cohort so this isn't a leap.

However, concentrating poverty in some schools definitely hurts those students at least that's what many studies have shown.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

Part of the Wootton cluster is immediately adjacent to the Crown HS site.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

Part of the Wootton cluster is immediately adjacent to the Crown HS site.

But if Wootton is no longer overcrowded they will be able to argue to stay with Wootton anyways. Otherwise they would delay Wootton's addition like they did to RM

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

Part of the Wootton cluster is immediately adjacent to the Crown HS site.

But if Wootton is no longer overcrowded they will be able to argue to stay with Wootton anyways. Otherwise they would delay Wootton's addition like they did to RM

Wootton's construction project is more about its aging and substandard building than about capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

Part of the Wootton cluster is immediately adjacent to the Crown HS site.

But if Wootton is no longer overcrowded they will be able to argue to stay with Wootton anyways. Otherwise they would delay Wootton's addition like they did to RM

People, Wootton will be impacted by Crown HS rezoning. It's in the CIP planning.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the elementaries that border the Crown farm property and surrounding area: Rosemont ES(Gburg), Fallsmead(Wootton), Fields Road(QO), Stone Mill(Wootton), and Ritchie Park(RM).

Why would you add RP? There are other ESs in the cluster that are closer - Beall and CG.

As for Wootton cluster, Lakewood ES is much closer to Crown than Fallsmead. I don't think you are very familiar with the surrounding area.

Most of Beall is walkzone to RM. it will likely be either Collge Gardens or Ritchie Park.

I wonder what would happen to the whole IB curriculum at College Gardens in the event it got moved to the new Crown HS.

I don't think it will get moved to Crown because of the whole PYP/MYP/IB path (and it is no where near Crown) but I do think all of Kings Farm could go to Gaithersburg HS. If KingsFarm went to Gaithersburg and Fallsgrove went to Crown, RM would be much less crowded.

I live in King Farm and unfortunately, I agree that it is a likely place to move. However, I don't see both King Farm and Fallsgrove being moved from RM because of the stats that will be left at RM. These are the two highest SES areas.

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I live in King Farm and unfortunately, I agree that it is a likely place to move. However, I don't see both King Farm and Fallsgrove being moved from RM because of the stats that will be left at RM. These are the two highest SES areas.

MCPS doesn't look at socioeconomic status. They look at population that receives free or reduced meals, which is a binary measure of household income (either you receive free/reduced meals because your household income is low enough, or you don't).

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This shows that you have no idea of how they hire for new schools or the effect on teacher transfer season. Opening a new school is an exciting opportunity for administrators and teachers, especially good ones currently in a school where there are other good teachers/admin with more seniority. The chosen principal (and HR) will hire the rest of the administration and leadership team (department heads) from a pool of eager applicants in January/February, then they will hire teachers from a pool of eager applicants in March, BEFORE the regular transfer season. Essentially, the school will cherry pick the best teachers from around the county. When transfer season opens, there will be many openings at other schools, but the new school will be mostly staffed.

This is what I’ve heard from HS teachers also.....they’ll get a good experienced set and then a bunch of enthusiastic new teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

Part of the Wootton cluster is immediately adjacent to the Crown HS site.

But if Wootton is no longer overcrowded they will be able to argue to stay with Wootton anyways. Otherwise they would delay Wootton's addition like they did to RM

People, Wootton will be impacted by Crown HS rezoning. It's in the CIP planning.

Yes, it’s not just kids coming out of Wootton, it’s also kids coming into Wootton. If they have seats, they’ll be filled with kids from the other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is should about to get an addition. They proba6y will not be affected by Crown given that.

Part of the Wootton cluster is immediately adjacent to the Crown HS site.

But if Wootton is no longer overcrowded they will be able to argue to stay with Wootton anyways. Otherwise they would delay Wootton's addition like they did to RM

People, Wootton will be impacted by Crown HS rezoning. It's in the CIP planning.

Yes, it’s not just kids coming out of Wootton, it’s also kids coming into Wootton. If they have seats, they’ll be filled with kids from the other schools.

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The majority of the county will be directly adjacent to a new/expanded high school in 2024 and 2025, and there is no reason that the county won't look at ALL boundaries and make adjustments all over (or put in place a new process.) If school A is 200 kids over capacity, next to school B at capacity, and school C with 200 empty seats, they don't bus 200 kids from A to C. They move 200 from A to B, and 200 from B to C.