Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?

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Anonymous wrote:If you think men have a problem with a woman having the jobs you described, then you REALLY don't understand men.

I don't think you do either. Some men absolutely do.

OP, it depends on the particular guy you are interested in.

Some men do, the majority don't . I believe pp is very much aware of this .

Wouldn't say the majority either. I guess it depends on your age and cultural background too.

Agree on the cultural . I think this is largely true for white Americans. My friends who are Indian, Nigerian, and Japanese are expected to be educated have careers both the mean and women before getting married.

This. Across the board, Americans are lazier with lower expectations for themselves (but higher entitlement) than their immigrant counterparts.

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I don't think this is true of most men. I think many professional men want to be with a professional woman even though they might have a more mommy-track professional job that's not quite as demanding as theirs. It's a lot of pressure to be the sole breadwinner even if you're making a ton. Plus I think many ambitious men are attracted to ambitious women and would be much less attracted to someone who is very smart and highly educated that's content with being a dog walker.

Nah. You are projecting your desires onto men.

Sounds like it. If ambitious equates to unavailable because of work and/or ball-buster, ambitious isn't even a good thing in a woman I might meet. The smart dog walker looks more attractive.

Yikes. Well I'm glad I married my DH and not someone with your attitude. If you have a daughter please don't teach her that ambition is an unattractive quality in a woman.

Nothing wrong with it unless she wants to get married and have children.

And this is why I'm glad to be high achieving with a competitive job. Trash like the misogynist posting above didn't even come near me when I was single. Less educated women have to deal with such bottomfeeders.

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Anonymous wrote:Most men I know probably would not date a woman who had not at least graduated from college. They want someone who could hold up their end of a conversation. Additionally, in this area,a second professional income means a nicer lifestyle. They want their wives to be accomplished, just slightly less so than themselves.

Also, most people I know have graduate degrees, and expect their children to at least become college graduates. They would assume that a woman without s college degree would either not encourage their kids to do well in school, would not be able to help with homework or would not expose the kids to museums, music etc. They would probably also worry that their kids with such a woman would not be academic.

A lot of assumptions, here.
I am a nanny as a second career. I spent most of my working life as a chef. My child grew up seeing the value of a mother who wasn't afraid to work hard, probably harder than most of you. She learned early on to cook, and taught all of her freshman roommates in college cooking skills. We are artists and musicians in our house. There are hundreds of books, stacked everywhere. I teach all of my nanny children arts, science and reading. The book collection in my home is better than most homes I've worked in. College is important and stressed to my daughter, who is working to be a veterinarian.

Your assumptions about we poor stupid nannies are way off base.

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Misogynist?

Be ambititious, become a doctor, a lawyer, a bridge designer. You're doing that because it fulfills you and it pays your way through life. Good God, read the resume of a woman astronaut like Judith Resnick. They accomplish a lot, and that's admirable.

But just because you're trying to meet guys with advanced degrees that match yours, we don't quite care about the degrees. That's not misogynistic. It's more a matter of women caring about the guy's status, and guys caring about other things in a woman.

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Do you think Michelle Obama had difficulty dating? Did Hillary?

Yes.

Both were and are fugly.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that smart, accomplished women overestimate how much a man will value her education and professional experience. In fact, I think that men feel threatened by women who are more successful. It stings when a man at your level prefers a state school sorority bunny.

Smart, accomplished women learn early on in life - for me, it was in 8th grade - that you need to look for that true gem of a man who is not only not threatened by an intelligent, successful woman, but who seek that type of woman out.

I must be the only smart, accomplished woman who had no dating trouble. I'm a national merit scholar who skipped three grades, became a big law attorney at 22 after getting a master's in chemistry. I have a bunch of other accomplishments. I always had a boyfriend and was married by 28. If anything, my smarts attracted men. Maybe it's that I'm super domestic? Or that I'm foreign (but married an American white guy)? I just never found that most men found my accomplishments unattractive.

You're not smart enough to understand the difference between a general trend and a particular case. Writ large there is a negative correlation between female IQ, education, and fertility.

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Anonymous wrote:Less ambitious the better. Just be nice.

I hope to God you don't have daughters. Unless you live somewhere like Saudi Arabia. Do you train your daughters to be subservient beginning in preschool?
Wherever did you find someone to bind their feet in the DC area?

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I don't think this is true of most men. I think many professional men want to be with a professional woman even though they might have a more mommy-track professional job that's not quite as demanding as theirs. It's a lot of pressure to be the sole breadwinner even if you're making a ton. Plus I think many ambitious men are attracted to ambitious women and would be much less attracted to someone who is very smart and highly educated that's content with being a dog walker.

Nah. You are projecting your desires onto men.

Sounds like it. If ambitious equates to unavailable because of work and/or ball-buster, ambitious isn't even a good thing in a woman I might meet. The smart dog walker looks more attractive.

Yikes. Well I'm glad I married my DH and not someone with your attitude. If you have a daughter please don't teach her that ambition is an unattractive quality in a woman.

Nothing wrong with it unless she wants to get married and have children.

And this is why I'm glad to be high achieving with a competitive job. Trash like the misogynist posting above didn't even come near me when I was single. Less educated women have to deal with such bottomfeeders.

Misogynist? You don't even know the definition of the word if you think that misogynist. You Clinton people are unbelievable. You just don't like what being said because it devalues your choices in life.

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I don't think this is true of most men. I think many professional men want to be with a professional woman even though they might have a more mommy-track professional job that's not quite as demanding as theirs. It's a lot of pressure to be the sole breadwinner even if you're making a ton. Plus I think many ambitious men are attracted to ambitious women and would be much less attracted to someone who is very smart and highly educated that's content with being a dog walker.

Nah. You are projecting your desires onto men.

Sounds like it. If ambitious equates to unavailable because of work and/or ball-buster, ambitious isn't even a good thing in a woman I might meet. The smart dog walker looks more attractive.

Yikes. Well I'm glad I married my DH and not someone with your attitude. If you have a daughter please don't teach her that ambition is an unattractive quality in a woman.

Nothing wrong with it unless she wants to get married and have children.

And this is why I'm glad to be high achieving with a competitive job. Trash like the misogynist posting above didn't even come near me when I was single. Less educated women have to deal with such bottomfeeders.

You: "I had muh education and muh career, ha ha stupid men!"

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So the reason a rich man with a great DCUM resume would pick a slacker over a driven career woman are many. One of the biggest is if someone has a career, they can't go with you on all the business excursion because they have to work. You know take vacation time. No Palm Springs in January, the meet and greet at blanked blanked golf open your company sponsors in New Orleans, the trips to the Cayman Islands for executive planning meetings, the boarding in NY, etc. These thing last a week or more and there are many on them.

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Do you think Michelle Obama had difficulty dating? Did Hillary?

Yes.

Both were and are fugly.

Hillary Rodham dated more than one person in law school, before choosing Bill Clinton. One of her former law school boyfriends said that she left him because he wasn't ambitious enough. She was doing the choosing.

Michelle Robinson dated a number of guys and brought them home before settling on Barack Obama. Her brother said they weren't sure she was ever going to make up her mind about who to marry, and they were happy when she finally chose Obama. She was doing the choosing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that smart, accomplished women overestimate how much a man will value her education and professional experience. In fact, I think that men feel threatened by women who are more successful. It stings when a man at your level prefers a state school sorority bunny.

Smart, accomplished women learn early on in life - for me, it was in 8th grade - that you need to look for that true gem of a man who is not only not threatened by an intelligent, successful woman, but who seek that type of woman out.

I must be the only smart, accomplished woman who had no dating trouble. I'm a national merit scholar who skipped three grades, became a big law attorney at 22 after getting a master's in chemistry. I have a bunch of other accomplishments. I always had a boyfriend and was married by 28. If anything, my smarts attracted men. Maybe it's that I'm super domestic? Or that I'm foreign (but married an American white guy)? I just never found that most men found my accomplishments unattractive.

No, you're not. Lots of women with your CV get married and have kids. OP just wants something to blame, rather than looking at herself. Lots of misogynists are out in force (or maybe just one really nasty troll) to reinforce the idea because they hate the idea that women can be more accomplished than they are.

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Well the trend for high-end exclusive escorts are beautiful women with graduate degrees who speak multiple languages. It used to be all you needed was a rockin' body for the oldest profession .... Why would you need a graduate degree to be an escort?

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Do you think Michelle Obama had difficulty dating? Did Hillary?

Yes.

Both were and are fugly.

Hillary Rodham dated more than one person in law school, before choosing Bill Clinton. One of her former law school boyfriends said that she left him because he wasn't ambitious enough. She was doing the choosing.

Michelle Robinson dated a number of guys and brought them home before settling on Barack Obama. Her brother said they weren't sure she was ever going to make up her mind about who to marry, and they were happy when she finally chose Obama. She was doing the choosing.

I for one place great credence in the words of these two notorious serial liars, who would never misrepresent their pasts for political purposes.

Did this have trouble dating? To ask the question is to answer it.

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Anonymous wrote:Well the trend for high-end exclusive escorts are beautiful women with graduate degrees who speak multiple languages. It used to be all you needed was a rockin' body for the oldest profession .... Why would you need a graduate degree to be an escort?

Another example of degree inflation, same thing as college degrees are now being asked of receptionists. Just another way to stand out from the crowd.