Right. And no alcohol until 21. I don't want my kid going to your house if you let your 15 year old take shots easier. Not rocket science. |
It's not effective if the only way your children, or other children, will listen to you is if they fear you hitting them. Remember that "discipline" means "teaching." She can't handle a child on a play date if she cannot hit them. Let's agree that if the belt is the only tool in your parenting toolbox, you're doing it wrong. PP is doing it wrong. |
| I don't think PP said that it was the only tool. |
Hello, my name is Jane Doe, and I spank my kids? What about you? LOL! |
But the one play date she had where she couldn't hit the child ended badly. |
Oh snap! But wait, that's not what she said. And nobody spanks other people's kids. Please. |
This! It's like she's using DCUM as a stand-in for an abusive parent (hers) or a spouse if they spank and she disagrees. Very weird! |
Incredulous describes someone who is unwilling or unable to believe something; skeptical. So the PP who said "Your story sounds incredulous" is actually the one who is incredulous. More appropriate word choices: unbelievable, dubious, improbable, unlikely, incredible. |
| Why do you call your kids precocious when they are really spoiled brats who could use a good whooping? |
LOL. Amen. |
Don't worry, your kids' behavior will let me know loud and clear that you don't spank and I'll not want my child around them. See? It all works out. |
Other people are able to raise well behaved children without hitting just FYI. Don't assume that well behaved children are being hit at home. |
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I want start by saying that I'm pro-spanking, if did in the right way but I want also share an experience.
Until a few years ago I thought that not all kids were equal and a parent had to adjust his disciplinary method in function of the child and I thought that a spank now and then would certainly not hurt anyone (quite the contrary). But recently, because of my job, I worked in prisons and there I understood that what before I would have considered two children with opposite personalities are more alike than I ever imagined. I'm not talking about normal criminals in jails, I'm talking about psychopaths (in jail or not). Talking to them I understood these people can't be really educated, no matter what you do; they never change. And if I have to say the truth, since then I'm a bit afraid of punish a child without knowing if he is a psychopath or not. This is mostly due to a conversation with a psychopathic inmate convicted for having killed his mother after have revealed her his murder of his father when he was 14. During the conversation I asked him why he killed his father and he replied that he killed him because was the fourth time in his life (LIFE, hence in 14 years) that he slapped him in the face (and the slap was just a normal one) and because so he would not interfere with his business anymore. If this can still be quite "normal" in a prison, what came after shocked me. I asked him why he revealed his murder to his mother more than a dozen of years later: he said "I've always been curious to see my mom's reaction to what I did and a day I did it. But she had a bad reaction". So I asked what reaction he expected (thinking "this guy must be an idiot! Does he really thought she would react in a different manner?!") and he said: "I don't know, but I hoped something better, instead she started to cry and shout as everyone else. That's so annoying and boring. At least she tried to beat me" (this is why he killed her, unintentionally they say). At this point I understood that with "bad reaction" he didn't mean a bad and negative reaction of the mother (that's what she had) but a bad entertainment, a boring reaction. And his emotions during all this... well, there was no emotion; he was calm and relaxed! I really hope that none of you has a psychopath as son |
| Generally I think that people who are over the top against spanking either are bipolar or in recovery, suffered abuse themselves as a child, are the kind of permissive parents who are in denial about their kid's behavior, or started with sweet kids with pliant personalities and don't truly understand why other parents spank. I am not talking about the kind of parents who spank their kids in anger, the kind you see cussing and yanking a 3-year-old around by the arm and screaming at the park or grocery store. That is another category of low class. |
I'm opposed to spanking and I don't fit into any of those categories. I have two kids with sensory issues and ADHD, not at all "compliant" in their nature. I was raised by strict parents who treated our family as a cooperative unit. We had lots of chores, we were all good students, and we were disciplined without punishment of any kind. I think they used timeouts and sent us to our rooms but for the most part we discussed things. There are five of us, all doctors and therapists. I am opposed to spanking because my parents didn't do it and it worked out well. |