Resentful and annoyed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was me a few years ago. Not the resentment part but the being shut out time and time again part. I also had a townhouse that was bought long long ago and moving wasn't impossible but would of been very difficult to do. So you know what I did? My kid went to a crappy school for K and 1. Its really not the end of the world. There are good teachers everywhere...even in schools that are failing. I dedicated myself to being an active parent, to volunteer, to get to know my teacher, to not write off the school or act above it, and I was honestly a little sad to leave when we did get into a charter. Yes some DCPS are very "bad" but having spent a lot of time in a "bad" school there is good to be found in any situation. Kindergarden isn't rocket science.

Signed by a Mom who's oldest child learned to read and write in a failing DCPS school.

Agreed. A child's family has a lot more influence on their academic success than their teacher or school. I have seen children from good homes do fine in failing schools. I'm even married to a guy who went to failing schools and still managed to get into sww and college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While DC Prep and KIPP may be unpopular on DCUM, I think the info you get here is skewed...Post reported 6,000 applicants to 1,000 Kipp spots. That said, looks like you put together a thoughtful list with safeties and were one of the unlucky few whose numbers were just too low to get in anywhere. I'm sorry.

Yeah KIPP advertises and has good word of mouth. It is not a cakewalk to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

Every JKLM family that enrolls at LAMB, YY, & Latin opens up spaces in the OOB lottery. What's not to like about that?

[Anonymous]

OP, that sucks. I'm sorry. But you sound like good, involved parents, and what happens at home is crucial. So your kids are in good stead in that regard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

NP - PP you SO don't get the point. What school did you go to? Might wanna yell at them for not teaching reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

What are you smoking? If it's PS or PK, they're just openng slots for more IB or sib families.


Every JKLM family that enrolls at LAMB, YY, & Latin opens up spaces in the OOB lottery. What's not to like about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

NP - PP you SO don't get the point. What school did you go to? Might wanna yell at them for not teaching reading comprehension.

Please clarify. What point don't I get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

NP - PP you SO don't get the point. What school did you go to? Might wanna yell at them for not teaching reading comprehension.

Please clarify. What point don't I get?

Yes, what point didn't she or I get? (Not the OP or any of the relevant PPs. Whatever it is you're trying to say, you're not very clear.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

Because if W3 is going to pull up the drawbridge, they need to realize that their isolation/insulation cuts both ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

Because if W3 is going to pull up the drawbridge, they need to realize that their isolation/insulation cuts both ways.

What are you talking about? Where is the drawbridge being pulled up? Are you talking about removing OOB feeder rights? Regardless, you still can't cut off access to charter schools. It is a violation of the charter legislation.

[Anonymous]

Feeder rights removal means you can still lottery in at each level. So W3 can still lottery into charters!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the solutions end: One thing I don't see readily mentioned is the "make it work for you" option. The answers here are almost all premised on the idea that schools "are" ("unacceptable", whatever). If there is a place anywhere that proves that schools "aren't" static, the DC is it. Almost anyone can make any school what they want it to be. Get on it, get engaged! Approach people and be approachable. It's really not that difficult. And your kids and family stand to gain from it immensely on all fronts.

That's your 13th option and YOU are letting yourself be shut out if you don't put that on your list, sorry to say. And I speak from experience doing just that.

Can you share which school?

Could be any number of schools that you now feel "shut out" from but take Maury ES, Capitol Hill, 2007. In 2014, this city is literally studded with 'Maury 2007'. In fact, I'll bet you that most of them are today more acceptable than 'Maury 2007'.

+1000

With the number of people getting shut out in the lottery there are opportunities to band together and turn some schools from the "failing" (either real or perceived) to "hidden gem" category. If your kid already knows how to read you really don't need to worry about his learning skills in K, 1 or 2. He/she will do fine. It will take volunteer hours. And adding some marketing and outreach to others to help bring other new blood/volunteers to the school and to help share the load.

Good luck. You can/will make it work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

Every JKLM family that enrolls at LAMB, YY, & Latin opens up spaces in the OOB lottery. What's not to like about that?

Not really. All schools have to accept all of the IB students but they only take OOB if there's room. So if you have a class of say 25 kids and one kid goes to a charter, that doesn't mean a principal is obligated to fill that spot with an OOB student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

NP - PP you SO don't get the point. What school did you go to? Might wanna yell at them for not teaching reading comprehension.

Please clarify. What point don't I get?

Yes, what point didn't she or I get? (Not the OP or any of the relevant PPs. Whatever it is you're trying to say, you're not very clear.)

NP. They are envious and bitter that there are people who have more money, choices, luck, happier... than them. Basically, they go through life bitter and envious no matter what they have b/c there is always someone else who has more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know who is entitled here? It's the people who sit in their big expensive upper NW houses with their great guaranteed inbound schools and weigh up whether to send their kids to LAMB, Mundo Verde, their amazing inbound school or straight to private.

And then they go right on ahead and take that place at LAMB (while boasting that they've just saved $100k in school fees) while the rest of us struggle and know that there are no realistic options other than trying to get our failing IB schools to work for us - if only so that it's improved for those who come after us.

That's the topic that OP raised, which the people in those expensive houses with their overinflated salaries and their multiple options for their overindulged little snowflakes have conveniently overlooked when they berate OP and suggest that SHE is "entitled" because she's unable or unwilling to move and didn't plan where she lived or what her earning potential was based on the prospect that she may (or may not) have children at some point in the future.

Bitter, yes? And with every right.

I kind of love this.

I think its ridiculous. We're damn lucky to have charter schools. For most of the country, if your IB school is bad, there are no other options but to enroll or move. It is not the mission of charter schools to save students from their parents' short-sighted housing decisions. If someone in Ward 3 desires Mandarin immersion, montessori or expeditionary learning for their child, options not available in their neighborhood school, why should their address prevent them from entering the lottery?

Because if W3 is going to pull up the drawbridge, they need to realize that their isolation/insulation cuts both ways.

What are you talking about? Where is the drawbridge being pulled up? Are you talking about removing OOB feeder rights? Regardless, you still can't cut off access to charter schools. It is a violation of the charter legislation.

This!

I understand why some parents are frustrated but taking it out on W3 parents makes no sense. W3 families didn't create the situation you're in. We all played the same lottery. Why are you not angry at your neighbors for their kids getting into a charter or oob school, leaving your kid behind?