How can any woman vote for Romney/Ryan?

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama. You can cite all the "research" and "sources" you want. No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama.

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama. You can cite all the "research" and "sources" you want. No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama.

Um, can YOU cite any research or sources? Most people are extremely alarmed by the content of Ryan's plan because it contains tax hikes for 80%. It did become a moot point for awhile because the plan was dead, until he was selected for VP and Romney embraced it. ever since then, it has been all over the placeSooo, for the past 2 weeks, this has been a major story. How have you missed that? Try to keep up. Oh wait. You only watch FOX News, don't you? Yeah, I'm sure they aren't talking about it over there...

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Anonymous wrote:You can't find their positions anywhere? Really.....

Educated non-rich and voting for RR for sure.

Why? What is it that makes you a supporter?

I support less government, less taxes, school choice and repeal of Obamacare. All things RR support.

Oh look, everybody! Another republican listed the Official List of Republican Talking Points! How fun!

Less gov't - gov't actually grows under republican leadership. Big fat myth that it grows under the dems. Sure, the money moves around, and dems give more money to those that didn't get much from the repubs and vice versa, so spare me the list of agencies and programs that have grown in the past 4 years because I will counter that with a list of those that have been cut. but overall, gov't is almost always bigger under repubs.

Less taxes - has Obama raised your taxes? Are you sure that you did not benefit from any of his tax cuts? How will R/R lower your taxes? I know that they keep telling you they will, but surely you have more to go on then that. So, what makes you think they will cut your taxes more then Obama?

School choice - this issue seems to have come from out of nowhere. From what I understand, it has several definitions, depending on who you ask. Most people seem to define it as getting vouchers from the gov't to help pay for private education. This is my favorite little quirks that repubs have. You want less spending/taxes/gov't for everyone else, but then you keep asking for more gov't money and programs. If you want tax payer dollars to pay for private education, then you apparently don't want smaller gov't/lower taxes. How is this not obvious?

Repeal of Obamacare - Ok, we get it. You guys don't like Obamacare. Can you give us even one really good reason for not liking it? Of course it's not perfect at this point, but we will work out the kinks as we go. And some of us will suffer some minor inconveniences (see PP sad story about having to fill out a form to buy someone a $20 lunch and pay a 2.3% tax to pay for the millions of potential clients she will gain), but I have yet to hear anything even remotely worthy of justifying denial of health care to millions of Americans. You guys like to call it socialism and think that it's an infringement on your rights to force you to have healthcare. If you make this argument, I will assume you are a Christian Scientist and I will concede that your particular group could/should possibly be exempt. The rest of us participate in the health care field at some point so it makes sense that we all pay for it, right? Do you realize that you are already footing the bill for those who walk into the ER without coverage, even though they can afford it? Are you cool with that? I'm not, so I'm thrilled that Obamacare eliminates this. What about you? If you don't have coverage and can afford it, do you have millions of dollars set aside just in case you become ill and undergo years of treatment? You wouldn't expect the rest of us to pay for that, would you? So, please tell me what you have issue with...the fact that your kids can stay on your plan until 26? not being able to discriminate against pre-existing conditions? No lifetime cap?

Bravo!
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Oh look two more Democrats who don't have a clue about Republican issues. Bravo indeed!

Do you? if so, please enlighten us. been trying to get someone to explain it to me and they clam up.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't find their positions anywhere? Really.....

Educated non-rich and voting for RR for sure.

Why? What is it that makes you a supporter?

I support less government, less taxes, school choice and repeal of Obamacare. All things RR support.

Oh look, everybody! Another republican listed the Official List of Republican Talking Points! How fun!

Less gov't - gov't actually grows under republican leadership. Big fat myth that it grows under the dems. Sure, the money moves around, and dems give more money to those that didn't get much from the repubs and vice versa, so spare me the list of agencies and programs that have grown in the past 4 years because I will counter that with a list of those that have been cut. but overall, gov't is almost always bigger under repubs.

Less taxes - has Obama raised your taxes? Are you sure that you did not benefit from any of his tax cuts? How will R/R lower your taxes? I know that they keep telling you they will, but surely you have more to go on then that. So, what makes you think they will cut your taxes more then Obama?

School choice - this issue seems to have come from out of nowhere. From what I understand, it has several definitions, depending on who you ask. Most people seem to define it as getting vouchers from the gov't to help pay for private education. This is my favorite little quirks that repubs have. You want less spending/taxes/gov't for everyone else, but then you keep asking for more gov't money and programs. If you want tax payer dollars to pay for private education, then you apparently don't want smaller gov't/lower taxes. How is this not obvious?

Repeal of Obamacare - Ok, we get it. You guys don't like Obamacare. Can you give us even one really good reason for not liking it? Of course it's not perfect at this point, but we will work out the kinks as we go. And some of us will suffer some minor inconveniences (see PP sad story about having to fill out a form to buy someone a $20 lunch and pay a 2.3% tax to pay for the millions of potential clients she will gain), but I have yet to hear anything even remotely worthy of justifying denial of health care to millions of Americans. You guys like to call it socialism and think that it's an infringement on your rights to force you to have healthcare. If you make this argument, I will assume you are a Christian Scientist and I will concede that your particular group could/should possibly be exempt. The rest of us participate in the health care field at some point so it makes sense that we all pay for it, right? Do you realize that you are already footing the bill for those who walk into the ER without coverage, even though they can afford it? Are you cool with that? I'm not, so I'm thrilled that Obamacare eliminates this. What about you? If you don't have coverage and can afford it, do you have millions of dollars set aside just in case you become ill and undergo years of treatment? You wouldn't expect the rest of us to pay for that, would you? So, please tell me what you have issue with...the fact that your kids can stay on your plan until 26? not being able to discriminate against pre-existing conditions? No lifetime cap?

Bravo!
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Oh look two more Democrats who don't have a clue about Republican issues. Bravo indeed!

Do you? if so, please enlighten us. been trying to get someone to explain it to me and they clam up.

democrats the party of tax cuts?

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama. You can cite all the "research" and "sources" you want. No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama.

Um, can YOU cite any research or sources? Most people are extremely alarmed by the content of Ryan's plan because it contains tax hikes for 80%. It did become a moot point for awhile because the plan was dead, until he was selected for VP and Romney embraced it. ever since then, it has been all over the placeSooo, for the past 2 weeks, this has been a major story. How have you missed that? Try to keep up. Oh wait. You only watch FOX News, don't you? Yeah, I'm sure they aren't talking about it over there...

I don't have the time or interest to "watch news" FOX or otherwise. You're all worked up into a lather because you're missing or choosing to ignore my point: the numbers you cite are irrelevant: no one believes that their taxes will be lower under Obama. People base their vote on what they believe. And, unless there's been an amendment since the last time I read it, the constitution doesn't permit the president to levy tax. Look it up.

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama. You can cite all the "research" and "sources" you want. No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama.

Um, can YOU cite any research or sources? Most people are extremely alarmed by the content of Ryan's plan because it contains tax hikes for 80%. It did become a moot point for awhile because the plan was dead, until he was selected for VP and Romney embraced it. ever since then, it has been all over the placeSooo, for the past 2 weeks, this has been a major story. How have you missed that? Try to keep up. Oh wait. You only watch FOX News, don't you? Yeah, I'm sure they aren't talking about it over there...

http://taxfoundation.org/article/tax-equity-and-growth-nonpayers

I can. Let's hope society's takers finally put some more skin in the game. This country is FUNDED more by the top 5% than the bottom 95% Get that through your thick head.

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama. You can cite all the "research" and "sources" you want. No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama.

Um, can YOU cite any research or sources? Most people are extremely alarmed by the content of Ryan's plan because it contains tax hikes for 80%. It did become a moot point for awhile because the plan was dead, until he was selected for VP and Romney embraced it. ever since then, it has been all over the placeSooo, for the past 2 weeks, this has been a major story. How have you missed that? Try to keep up. Oh wait. You only watch FOX News, don't you? Yeah, I'm sure they aren't talking about it over there...

I don't have the time or interest to "watch news" FOX or otherwise. You're all worked up into a lather because you're missing or choosing to ignore my point: the numbers you cite are irrelevant: no one believes that their taxes will be lower under Obama. People base their vote on what they believe. And, unless there's been an amendment since the last time I read it, the constitution doesn't permit the president to levy tax. Look it up.

Not missing your point. You've repeated it 3 times and can't really come up with anything else. You say that no one believes their taxes will be lower under Obama. Ok. got it. How do you know this? You've talked to everyone? Why do you think that Research, sources and numbers are irrelevant, but your comical assumption that "no one believes..." is relevant?

True that most of us vote on what we believe, but our beliefs are based on the facts.

Where did your tax levy comment come from? Did I miss something?

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Show of hands: Who thinks their taxes will be lower if Obama is re-elected?

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Not missing your point. You've repeated it 3 times and can't really come up with anything else. You say that no one believes their taxes will be lower under Obama. Ok. got it. How do you know this? You've talked to everyone? Why do you think that Research, sources and numbers are irrelevant, but your comical assumption that "no one believes..." is relevant?

True that most of us vote on what we believe, but our beliefs are based on the facts.

Where did your tax levy comment come from? Did I miss something?

Here's how it's related: just because Ryan had an idea, and Romney "embraced it" as you say, it's not like the 2 of them have the power to increase taxes 80% or whatever wackadoodle number you claim. The don't have the constitutional power to do so and even if by some incredible extreme stretch of the imagination they actually proposed such a monstrosity, that tax increase would never pass Congress, the body with the authority to levy tax. Got that?

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Hello ello lo o o ? Anyone?

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama. You can cite all the "research" and "sources" you want. No one believes that taxes will be lower under Obama.

Um, can YOU cite any research or sources? Most people are extremely alarmed by the content of Ryan's plan because it contains tax hikes for 80%. It did become a moot point for awhile because the plan was dead, until he was selected for VP and Romney embraced it. ever since then, it has been all over the placeSooo, for the past 2 weeks, this has been a major story. How have you missed that? Try to keep up. Oh wait. You only watch FOX News, don't you? Yeah, I'm sure they aren't talking about it over there...

http://taxfoundation.org/article/tax-equity-and-growth-nonpayers

I can. Let's hope society's takers finally put some more skin in the game. This country is FUNDED more by the top 5% than the bottom 95% Get that through your thick head.

You have no idea what this means, do you? this is about nonpayers. Do you know what a nonpayer is? A nonpayer is someone who, after taking advantage of all the legal tax credits and deductions, has zero tax liability. It shows an example of how a family with a $45,000* income can come up with zero tax liability. It also states where each of these credits and deductions came from. Many of them came from republicans. So, yep, because of these credits, at least half of those with HHI less than $40,000 will be nonpayers. But it's all legal, and the majority was a result of republican policy. Huge jump in nonpayers during the Bush years.

How does this provide evidence that taxes would be lower under Romney than Obama?

*Before you assume that someone with a lowly HHI of $45,000 is just a step above welfare, please be aware that this is a very respectable income in many parts of the country. If you make $150,000 in DC, someone with the same job in other areas might make $40,000 and live at the same comfort level that you do.

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Not missing your point. You've repeated it 3 times and can't really come up with anything else. You say that no one believes their taxes will be lower under Obama. Ok. got it. How do you know this? You've talked to everyone? Why do you think that Research, sources and numbers are irrelevant, but your comical assumption that "no one believes..." is relevant?

True that most of us vote on what we believe, but our beliefs are based on the facts.

Where did your tax levy comment come from? Did I miss something?

Here's how it's related: just because Ryan had an idea, and Romney "embraced it" as you say, it's not like the 2 of them have the power to increase taxes 80% or whatever wackadoodle number you claim. The don't have the constitutional power to do so and even if by some incredible extreme stretch of the imagination they actually proposed such a monstrosity, that tax increase would never pass Congress, the body with the authority to levy tax. Got that?

My word. You can't read, can you? I did not say they were raising taxes by 80%. I said they would raise taxes on 80% of Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Show of hands: Who thinks their taxes will be lower if Obama is re-elected?

Hello ello lo o o ? Anyone?

Why would anyone bother with this? We are all anonymous on here. You would just accuse me of posting "I do!" over and over again.

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Anonymous wrote:Show of hands: Who thinks their taxes will be lower if Obama is re-elected?

I believe the ryan plan will raise my tax bill.

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Not missing your point. You've repeated it 3 times and can't really come up with anything else. You say that no one believes their taxes will be lower under Obama. Ok. got it. How do you know this? You've talked to everyone? Why do you think that Research, sources and numbers are irrelevant, but your comical assumption that "no one believes..." is relevant?

True that most of us vote on what we believe, but our beliefs are based on the facts.

Where did your tax levy comment come from? Did I miss something?

Here's how it's related: just because Ryan had an idea, and Romney "embraced it" as you say, it's not like the 2 of them have the power to increase taxes 80% or whatever wackadoodle number you claim. The don't have the constitutional power to do so and even if by some incredible extreme stretch of the imagination they actually proposed such a monstrosity, that tax increase would never pass Congress, the body with the authority to levy tax. Got that?

My word. You can't read, can you? I did not say they were raising taxes by 80%. I said they would raise taxes on 80% of Americans.

That proves my point: it doesn't matter what the ryan plan says (80% or 80% of Americans or free ice cream for everyone). It will never ever become law. Taxes will not be less under Obama.