How can any woman vote for Romney/Ryan?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/former-attorney-general-mukasey-highly-lawyered-memo-would-have-blamed-failed-ubl-raid-on-navy-admiral/

Yeah, when someone relies on Glen Beck's website for anti-Obama evidence, you know you are in for a fun time. Here is the text of the memo that allegedly insulates Obama from blame:

http://digitaljournal.com/article/323763

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."

Obama gave approval, but left operational control to the military. Isn't that what you would expect? That is not hiding from responsibility. That is making the decision and delegating implementation. Leadership 101.

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

[jsteele]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, I have a VERY straight face. I will NOT be another domino because I have said to much already.

You expect me to believe that you know about a Presidential document about which nobody else knows, but you don't know about the attempt to rescue the American Embassy officials held hostage in Iran?

I expect you to respect that I am an anononymous person responding to your post based upon my DC "coffee talk." That's it.

Within 2 minutes of posting I got a weird phone call from 703 359 6443 for a generic carpet cleaning company that doesn't exist. WTH?

You and whole lot of others apparently:

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/7033596443

[Anonymous]

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I grew up post-racism and post-reproductive rights in the Northeast.

Are you under the impression that the fights against racism and for reproductive rights have concluded? That's cute. Really. Do you still cuddle with your My Little Pony every night? Bake in your Holly Hobby oven?

There are a lot of jokes about how the South is still fighting the Civil War, but they're just, well, jokes. Attempts to be funny. But a significant portion of the Republican Party is STILL under the impression that the battle over reproductive rights is still underway. That's not a joke, and it sure as hell ain't funny.

Now I'm not a single issue voter, but combine the above with the fact that Romney claims that you can cut the deficit while lowering taxes and not touching defense spending (thereby demonstrating that he's either a pandering liar or hasn't mastered 3rd grade math), his economic "plan" is composed entirely of platitudes, every nonpartisan group that has looked at his economic plan has pronounced it lunacy, and he pledges to repeal Obamacare and replace it with . . . shh, it's a secret . . . well, the answer is clear. Combine that with the insanity that would emanate from the GOP controlled House, with potentially no reatraining force if the GOP takes the Senate, and it's not even close.

You say, "It can't be worse than Obama."

I say, yes. Yes it can.

Sometimes when you post on here I think I must have posted that! You are my soul sister.
- Another single issue voter

[Anonymous]

It's the economy, stupid!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the economy, stupid!

Why don't the republicans understand this?? They seem to think the message is "the economy's bad, so you should vote for us no matter what we crazy shit we try to pull".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't find their positions anywhere? Really.....

Educated non-rich and voting for RR for sure.

Why? What is it that makes you a supporter?

I support less government, less taxes, school choice and repeal of Obamacare. All things RR support.

Oh look, everybody! Another republican listed the Official List of Republican Talking Points! How fun!

Less gov't - gov't actually grows under republican leadership. Big fat myth that it grows under the dems. Sure, the money moves around, and dems give more money to those that didn't get much from the repubs and vice versa, so spare me the list of agencies and programs that have grown in the past 4 years because I will counter that with a list of those that have been cut. but overall, gov't is almost always bigger under repubs.

Less taxes - has Obama raised your taxes? Are you sure that you did not benefit from any of his tax cuts? How will R/R lower your taxes? I know that they keep telling you they will, but surely you have more to go on then that. So, what makes you think they will cut your taxes more then Obama?

School choice - this issue seems to have come from out of nowhere. From what I understand, it has several definitions, depending on who you ask. Most people seem to define it as getting vouchers from the gov't to help pay for private education. This is my favorite little quirks that repubs have. You want less spending/taxes/gov't for everyone else, but then you keep asking for more gov't money and programs. If you want tax payer dollars to pay for private education, then you apparently don't want smaller gov't/lower taxes. How is this not obvious?

Repeal of Obamacare - Ok, we get it. You guys don't like Obamacare. Can you give us even one really good reason for not liking it? Of course it's not perfect at this point, but we will work out the kinks as we go. And some of us will suffer some minor inconveniences (see PP sad story about having to fill out a form to buy someone a $20 lunch and pay a 2.3% tax to pay for the millions of potential clients she will gain), but I have yet to hear anything even remotely worthy of justifying denial of health care to millions of Americans. You guys like to call it socialism and think that it's an infringement on your rights to force you to have healthcare. If you make this argument, I will assume you are a Christian Scientist and I will concede that your particular group could/should possibly be exempt. The rest of us participate in the health care field at some point so it makes sense that we all pay for it, right? Do you realize that you are already footing the bill for those who walk into the ER without coverage, even though they can afford it? Are you cool with that? I'm not, so I'm thrilled that Obamacare eliminates this. What about you? If you don't have coverage and can afford it, do you have millions of dollars set aside just in case you become ill and undergo years of treatment? You wouldn't expect the rest of us to pay for that, would you? So, please tell me what you have issue with...the fact that your kids can stay on your plan until 26? not being able to discriminate against pre-existing conditions? No lifetime cap?

Bravo!
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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The party platform is different from Romney's views and Ryan has said he will support what Romney chooses, not that Ryan has a choice.

Romney personally is not looking to make changes to national abortion law. A constitutional amendment outlawing all abortion will never pass.

I can vote for Romney because I care about the other issues and I do not expect any real change in abortion laws to happen under him.

Thanks for your rational opinion. How do you feel about the equal pay for women issue?

Flame away, but I'm late everyday and can be on the metro @ 4:50 everyday, I can live with "unequal" pay. Equal pay is another typical red herring of the left, but I won't hold my breath looking for an admission. Can't wait to vote competance in November. R/r all the way.

[Anonymous]

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Well that's a different question entirely. One I can't help you with because I'm a white, well-educated, new rich, usually Republican voter who doesn't want to see more and more of my hard-earned money being taken by Democrats and going to God-knows-what and not doing much good. And, yes, I'm a woman and I have daughters.

This is something I see lots of -- lots of seemingly educated people who vote Republican mostly because they're rich and want to keep their money. Okay, I get it. That's the priority for some -- hell, if I were rich, who knows? Maybe I too wouldn't want to share a tiny percentage of my wealth with people who really need it. But anyway, what about all of the lower-to-middle class people who vote for R/R? That I don't get. The rich and greedy people, okay, maybe I can understand your position a bit. But those who aren't rich - why are you voting for R/R?

ANd nobody has chimed in on that PP who asked a R/R supporter to provide some basics on these candidates' positions/plans on some of the top issues. I can't find that information anywhere!!

No rational definition of 42% (paid in taxes last year) is considered "tiny."

Good point. I didn't realize the percentage was so high. Was it lower under Bush?

I don't know, we weren't earning as much when Bush was president. But it's certain that it will be higher in the next 4 years under OB than it would be under RR.

How are you certain of this? Crystal ball?

Obama is honest about wanting the rich to pay their fair share. R/R will just be sneaky about it. If they do even a fraction of what they tlak about in their grandiose statements, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will have to raise your taxes! how would you expect them to balance the budget, keep growing the military/invading the middle east, etc. if they don't raise taxes? Do like Bush did and leave the whole big mess for the next guy? And then attack him for not being able to clean up 8 years of disaster in less than four?

No one argues that taxes will be lower under Obama. Only you. What's that tell you?

This tells me that you haven't even looked at the Ryan Plan, haven't talked to very many people, and have not done any research. According to the analysis by the Center for Tax Justice, 80% of us will pay more taxes under R/R than Obama. A number of other sources show the same. Look it up.

[Anonymous]

...I meant to say under the Ryan budget, which Romney has embraced.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/former-attorney-general-mukasey-highly-lawyered-memo-would-have-blamed-failed-ubl-raid-on-navy-admiral/

Yeah, when someone relies on Glen Beck's website for anti-Obama evidence, you know you are in for a fun time. Here is the text of the memo that allegedly insulates Obama from blame:

http://digitaljournal.com/article/323763

"Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am."

Obama gave approval, but left operational control to the military. Isn't that what you would expect? That is not hiding from responsibility. That is making the decision and delegating implementation. Leadership 101.

That was not my source. It was merely something I picked off the internet quickly to give you something to chew on. I have never listened to Glenn Beck. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The party platform is different from Romney's views and Ryan has said he will support what Romney chooses, not that Ryan has a choice.

Romney personally is not looking to make changes to national abortion law. A constitutional amendment outlawing all abortion will never pass.

I can vote for Romney because I care about the other issues and I do not expect any real change in abortion laws to happen under him.

Thanks for your rational opinion. How do you feel about the equal pay for women issue?

Flame away, but I'm late everyday and can be on the metro @ 4:50 everyday, I can live with "unequal" pay. Equal pay is another typical red herring of the left, but I won't hold my breath looking for an admission. Can't wait to vote competance in November. R/r all the way.

It's in no way a red herring, and your fervent hope doesn't make it so. I'm convinced the righties of this nation don't eve understand what equal pay actually is. It's if someone with your same exact job, responsibilities, education, and hours - just with exterior plumbing - got paid, oh, 14% more. For the exact same job. And for no reason. Equal pay is not you being chronically, irresponsibly late, working less and leaving early while still getting paid less. That's not what we're fighting for. We're fighting for a change to the endemic, systemic sexism that still results in women getting paid less than men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The party platform is different from Romney's views and Ryan has said he will support what Romney chooses, not that Ryan has a choice.

Romney personally is not looking to make changes to national abortion law. A constitutional amendment outlawing all abortion will never pass.

I can vote for Romney because I care about the other issues and I do not expect any real change in abortion laws to happen under him.

Thanks for your rational opinion. How do you feel about the equal pay for women issue?

Flame away, but I'm late everyday and can be on the metro @ 4:50 everyday, I can live with "unequal" pay. Equal pay is another typical red herring of the left, but I won't hold my breath looking for an admission. Can't wait to vote competance in November. R/r all the way.

Oh, and it's COMPETENCE. Interesting word to misspell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The party platform is different from Romney's views and Ryan has said he will support what Romney chooses, not that Ryan has a choice.

Romney personally is not looking to make changes to national abortion law. A constitutional amendment outlawing all abortion will never pass.

I can vote for Romney because I care about the other issues and I do not expect any real change in abortion laws to happen under him.

Thanks for your rational opinion. How do you feel about the equal pay for women issue?

Flame away, but I'm late everyday and can be on the metro @ 4:50 everyday, I can live with "unequal" pay. Equal pay is another typical red herring of the left, but I won't hold my breath looking for an admission. Can't wait to vote competance in November. R/r all the way.

It's in no way a red herring, and your fervent hope doesn't make it so. I'm convinced the righties of this nation don't eve understand what equal pay actually is. It's if someone with your same exact job, responsibilities, education, and hours - just with exterior plumbing - got paid, oh, 14% more. For the exact same job. And for no reason. Equal pay is not you being chronically, irresponsibly late, working less and leaving early while still getting paid less. That's not what we're fighting for. We're fighting for a change to the endemic, systemic sexism that still results in women getting paid less than men.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128513/Women-paid-significantly-Obama-White-House-male-counterparts.html

Perhaps you may be on to something. Thanks for pointing out my misspellling. Note, its "even" not eve. Looks like we both forgot an e, although your's is 14% worse of a mistake, give or take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't find their positions anywhere? Really.....

Educated non-rich and voting for RR for sure.

Why? What is it that makes you a supporter?

I support less government, less taxes, school choice and repeal of Obamacare. All things RR support.

Oh look, everybody! Another republican listed the Official List of Republican Talking Points! How fun!

Less gov't - gov't actually grows under republican leadership. Big fat myth that it grows under the dems. Sure, the money moves around, and dems give more money to those that didn't get much from the repubs and vice versa, so spare me the list of agencies and programs that have grown in the past 4 years because I will counter that with a list of those that have been cut. but overall, gov't is almost always bigger under repubs.

Less taxes - has Obama raised your taxes? Are you sure that you did not benefit from any of his tax cuts? How will R/R lower your taxes? I know that they keep telling you they will, but surely you have more to go on then that. So, what makes you think they will cut your taxes more then Obama?

School choice - this issue seems to have come from out of nowhere. From what I understand, it has several definitions, depending on who you ask. Most people seem to define it as getting vouchers from the gov't to help pay for private education. This is my favorite little quirks that repubs have. You want less spending/taxes/gov't for everyone else, but then you keep asking for more gov't money and programs. If you want tax payer dollars to pay for private education, then you apparently don't want smaller gov't/lower taxes. How is this not obvious?

Repeal of Obamacare - Ok, we get it. You guys don't like Obamacare. Can you give us even one really good reason for not liking it? Of course it's not perfect at this point, but we will work out the kinks as we go. And some of us will suffer some minor inconveniences (see PP sad story about having to fill out a form to buy someone a $20 lunch and pay a 2.3% tax to pay for the millions of potential clients she will gain), but I have yet to hear anything even remotely worthy of justifying denial of health care to millions of Americans. You guys like to call it socialism and think that it's an infringement on your rights to force you to have healthcare. If you make this argument, I will assume you are a Christian Scientist and I will concede that your particular group could/should possibly be exempt. The rest of us participate in the health care field at some point so it makes sense that we all pay for it, right? Do you realize that you are already footing the bill for those who walk into the ER without coverage, even though they can afford it? Are you cool with that? I'm not, so I'm thrilled that Obamacare eliminates this. What about you? If you don't have coverage and can afford it, do you have millions of dollars set aside just in case you become ill and undergo years of treatment? You wouldn't expect the rest of us to pay for that, would you? So, please tell me what you have issue with...the fact that your kids can stay on your plan until 26? not being able to discriminate against pre-existing conditions? No lifetime cap?

Bravo!
[phone]!

Oh look two more Democrats who don't have a clue about Republican issues. Bravo indeed!