Who appeals to INDEPENDENTS for president right now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Any one with a PS degree who doesn't understand the extreme political differences between AOC and Harris/Clinton needs to forfeit their PS degree. Try harder.

I understand all about their political differences you foolish ijit. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THEY ALL HAVE VAGINAS! Wake up and get into reality you moronic child.

But you aren't smart enough to realize that one of those "vaginas", as your MAGA misogynistic brains call them, campaigned half as rigorously as Trump and still received more votes than Trump in 2016 in an election year when Trump had the advantage of being the opposition to the party who controlled The White House for 8 years! She still received MORE votes. How did your sexist brain not explode in 2016 after seeing these results!! The nerve of that woman receiving all those votes while running against a man!!

I'm as liberal and feminist as the day is long, while you are simply too stupid to grasp the concept of pragmatism in politics and the edge this country is teetering on and why we can't indulge pipe dreams like running AOC for president. GROW UP.

Lol.... nice try but it's the money fueled corruption in politics that will continue to prevent the Bernie/AOC types from becoming major party nominees. If AOC sold her soul and integrity to super PACs, she would then become a serious threat in national politics. I'd much rather see reform to our political system than one of the few non-corrupt Congress members left sell-out to corruption in order to become a viable national candidate.

Speaking of LOL, for someone who alleges to be politically astute, you clearly aren't paying attention to what is happening in Montana and Maine with regard to campaign finance reform.

You're an uninformed reactionay tantruming child and I'm done with your silly rantings. Buh bye!

What does Montana and Maine have to with AOC and national campaign finance laws? Nothing. It will take an act by Congress to produce campaign finance reform measures that create a more level playing field for candidates and to give control of our elections back to the people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Any one with a PS degree who doesn't understand the extreme political differences between AOC and Harris/Clinton needs to forfeit their PS degree. Try harder.

I understand all about their political differences you foolish ijit. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THEY ALL HAVE VAGINAS! Wake up and get into reality you moronic child.

But you aren't smart enough to realize that one of those "vaginas", as your MAGA misogynistic brains call them, campaigned half as rigorously as Trump and still received more votes than Trump in 2016 in an election year when Trump had the advantage of being the opposition to the party who controlled The White House for 8 years! She still received MORE votes. How did your sexist brain not explode in 2016 after seeing these results!! The nerve of that woman receiving all those votes while running against a man!!

Agree that lingo.winning the popular vote negates the “America isn’t ready for a woman president.” It is just used to rule people up. A PS grad who doesn’t understand the electoral college should ask for a refund from her alma mater. There is bias against women in the world but this is not an example of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Any one with a PS degree who doesn't understand the extreme political differences between AOC and Harris/Clinton needs to forfeit their PS degree. Try harder.

I understand all about their political differences you foolish ijit. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THEY ALL HAVE VAGINAS! Wake up and get into reality you moronic child.

But you aren't smart enough to realize that one of those "vaginas", as your MAGA misogynistic brains call them, campaigned half as rigorously as Trump and still received more votes than Trump in 2016 in an election year when Trump had the advantage of being the opposition to the party who controlled The White House for 8 years! She still received MORE votes. How did your sexist brain not explode in 2016 after seeing these results!! The nerve of that woman receiving all those votes while running against a man!!

I'm as liberal and feminist as the day is long, while you are simply too stupid to grasp the concept of pragmatism in politics and the edge this country is teetering on and why we can't indulge pipe dreams like running AOC for president. GROW UP.

Lol.... nice try but it's the money fueled corruption in politics that will continue to prevent the Bernie/AOC types from becoming major party nominees. If AOC sold her soul and integrity to super PACs, she would then become a serious threat in national politics. I'd much rather see reform to our political system than one of the few non-corrupt Congress members left sell-out to corruption in order to become a viable national candidate.

Speaking of LOL, for someone who alleges to be politically astute, you clearly aren't paying attention to what is happening in Montana and Maine with regard to campaign finance reform.

You're an uninformed reactionay tantruming child and I'm done with your silly rantings. Buh bye!

What does Montana and Maine have to with AOC and national campaign finance laws? Nothing. It will take an act by Congress to produce campaign finance reform measures that create a more level playing field for candidates and to give control of our elections back to the people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Any one with a PS degree who doesn't understand the extreme political differences between AOC and Harris/Clinton needs to forfeit their PS degree. Try harder.

I understand all about their political differences you foolish ijit. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THEY ALL HAVE VAGINAS! Wake up and get into reality you moronic child.

But you aren't smart enough to realize that one of those "vaginas", as your MAGA misogynistic brains call them, campaigned half as rigorously as Trump and still received more votes than Trump in 2016 in an election year when Trump had the advantage of being the opposition to the party who controlled The White House for 8 years! She still received MORE votes. How did your sexist brain not explode in 2016 after seeing these results!! The nerve of that woman receiving all those votes while running against a man!!

Agree that lingo.winning the popular vote negates the “America isn’t ready for a woman president.” It is just used to rule people up. A PS grad who doesn’t understand the electoral college should ask for a refund from her alma mater. There is bias against women in the world but this is not an example of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Any one with a PS degree who doesn't understand the extreme political differences between AOC and Harris/Clinton needs to forfeit their PS degree. Try harder.

I understand all about their political differences you foolish ijit. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THEY ALL HAVE VAGINAS! Wake up and get into reality you moronic child.

But you aren't smart enough to realize that one of those "vaginas", as your MAGA misogynistic brains call them, campaigned half as rigorously as Trump and still received more votes than Trump in 2016 in an election year when Trump had the advantage of being the opposition to the party who controlled The White House for 8 years! She still received MORE votes. How did your sexist brain not explode in 2016 after seeing these results!! The nerve of that woman receiving all those votes while running against a man!!

Agree that lingo.winning the popular vote negates the “America isn’t ready for a woman president.” It is just used to rule people up. A PS grad who doesn’t understand the electoral college should ask for a refund from her alma mater. There is bias against women in the world but this is not an example of it.

Well put. There were very obvious reasons behind the 2016, 2020, and 2024 election outcomes and those reasons have nothing to do with what was between candidate's legs. This fact does not negate the sexism that still exists throughout society today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Dp. Are you the one who also called AOC an airhead? Yeah, you’re likely not any of the things you claim to be. My guess is you are someone who’d like people to believe that AOC is ‘just not electable’. Why? Because she is the most dangerous to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Dp. Are you the one who also called AOC an airhead? Yeah, you’re likely not any of the things you claim to be. My guess is you are someone who’d like people to believe that AOC is ‘just not electable’. Why? Because she is the most dangerous to you.

DP.

The old saw that “children should be seen but not heard” has never rung more true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Dp. Are you the one who also called AOC an airhead? Yeah, you’re likely not any of the things you claim to be. My guess is you are someone who’d like people to believe that AOC is ‘just not electable’. Why? Because she is the most dangerous to you.

AOC is certainly no airhead. In fact, she is one our brightest members in Congress and one of the very few who hasn't sold out to mega-donors. Her populist rhetoric is favored by a vast majority of Americans. Her problem is not electability. Her problem is nomination ability. A major party nomination of a true populist candidate is extraordinarily unlikely anytime soon because the ultra-wealthy entities in control of our political system will fight tooth and nail against the nomination of anyone threatening to close the wealth divide. We've seen how this plays out in recent elections. The money wins and the American people lose.

[Anonymous]

I have been an independent affiliated voter since age 18.

Typically I don’t vote 3rd party, but have on occasion.

I’m open to either party but will absolutely not vote for Newsom, Hegseth, or Pritzger. Any other candidate from either party I would consider, depending on who they are running against.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been an independent affiliated voter since age 18.

Typically I don’t vote 3rd party, but have on occasion.

I’m open to either party but will absolutely not vote for Newsom, Hegseth, or Pritzger. Any other candidate from either party I would consider, depending on who they are running against.

+1 same here

Anyone who isn't an independent by 2026 in states with open primaries needs to have their heads examined. What more do our corrupt major political parties have to do to convince us that their focus is pleasing their wealthy donors as opposed to working for the common good of all people?? I get why people remain affiliated with our garbage major political parties in closed primary states. Calling me a Republican or Democrat at this point would be fighting words. Icky gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to win in 2028, and that means being pragmatic.

Nobody from inside this insanely corrupt administration, no matter how uncomfortable they look sitting on the sofa in the Oval.

Nobody who has provided cover for this administration or stayed silent in the face of the corruption - which rules out pretty much every establishment Republican.

If this nation wouldn't elect Hillary or Kamala, it's not electing AOC either. We need a pragmatic candidate who is not deeply in bed with AIPAC.

Says the fruitcake who puts two corporate owned politicians in the same bucket as AOC. You have a lot to learn about politics, my friend. AOC could not be more different politically than Harris or Clinton.

I'm not a fruitcake, poster. I'm a nearly 60 year old American woman who has a PoliSci degree, a law degree, and decades of experience closely following and working in politics. I doubt very much you know more about how our political system works than I do. And you seem to be massively ignorant of the misogyny that prevails in our society and political system, even though it stares you in the face every single day in the news cycle. The USA is not ready to elect a woman, sad as that is. She could be so far out of the political establishment as to be from Venus, and our sick misogynistic patriarchal strangleheld society WOULD NOT ELECT HER.

Now I'm sure you can imagine what I'm wishing for you and your nastiness right now. Go dial up some porn and do it.

Dp. Are you the one who also called AOC an airhead? Yeah, you’re likely not any of the things you claim to be. My guess is you are someone who’d like people to believe that AOC is ‘just not electable’. Why? Because she is the most dangerous to you.

AOC is certainly no airhead. In fact, she is one our brightest members in Congress and one of the very few who hasn't sold out to mega-donors. Her populist rhetoric is favored by a vast majority of Americans. Her problem is not electability. Her problem is nomination ability. A major party nomination of a true populist candidate is extraordinarily unlikely anytime soon because the ultra-wealthy entities in control of our political system will fight tooth and nail against the nomination of anyone threatening to close the wealth divide. We've seen how this plays out in recent elections. The money wins and the American people lose.

Agree this is how it’s been. But if there is any election where we have a chance to break this cycle, it is now. We missed our chance with Bernie. I will throw the race to R by sitting out as long as I have to until the strangle hold is broken. And I’m a middle class boring soccer mom. And I know many who feel this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been an independent affiliated voter since age 18.

Typically I don’t vote 3rd party, but have on occasion.

I’m open to either party but will absolutely not vote for Newsom, Hegseth, or Pritzger. Any other candidate from either party I would consider, depending on who they are running against.

Why not them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been an independent affiliated voter since age 18.

Typically I don’t vote 3rd party, but have on occasion.

I’m open to either party but will absolutely not vote for Newsom, Hegseth, or Pritzger. Any other candidate from either party I would consider, depending on who they are running against.

I come from a family of independents. My dad and brothers lean Republican. None of them will vote for anyone associated with this administration. My mom leans toward Bernie-type Democrats. Her current favorite is Kelly but she has said she will vote for any Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have been an independent affiliated voter since age 18.

Typically I don’t vote 3rd party, but have on occasion.

I’m open to either party but will absolutely not vote for Newsom, Hegseth, or Pritzger. Any other candidate from either party I would consider, depending on who they are running against.

Why not them?

Those three smell of booze, sleaze, and corruption.

[Anonymous]

AOC is certainly no airhead. Anyone who has watched her in committee hearings knows that. She's very sharp.

But I don't think AOC as a presidential candidate is likely to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada and the other battleground states. I'd rather see her take Chuck Schumer's seat as Senator of New York.