Son's Birthday Sleepover

Anonymous
If you are a gun owner and conservative why not say so? What stops you from sharing your beliefs if you're proud of them?

Instead you crowd-sourced lying to this parent, shared your DH's defensive and paranoid views, expressed fear at being stereotyped and in doing so stereotyped the other mom, and then rescinded an invitation for a child.

(And btw which is it? Do people want to steal your guns OR are they less likely to break in if they know you have guns?)
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


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I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


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I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


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I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.


That was my thinking too so I never asked
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


+1


I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.


Maybe not, but when they start shifting uncomfortably I have all the info I need to know. Most people are very bad liars, especially when you catch them off guard.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


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I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.


Maybe not, but when they start shifting uncomfortably I have all the info I need to know. Most people are very bad liars, especially when you catch them off guard.


Unlikely. Most people are going to email or text this question, not ask it at drop off (case in point, the OP). No one would be “shifting uncomfortably” you’ve made that up as what you think would happen. This is a no win question. All it will do if confirm someone is responsible- but it absolutely not will save your kid from danger, if there is any. You might as well ask, “Are you a complete moron and irresponsible parent?” It’s the same question.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


+1


I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.


Maybe not, but when they start shifting uncomfortably I have all the info I need to know. Most people are very bad liars, especially when you catch them off guard.


Unlikely. Most people are going to email or text this question, not ask it at drop off (case in point, the OP). No one would be “shifting uncomfortably” you’ve made that up as what you think would happen. This is a no win question. All it will do if confirm someone is responsible- but it absolutely not will save your kid from danger, if there is any. You might as well ask, “Are you a complete moron and irresponsible parent?” It’s the same question.


DP. How a parent responds to the question tells me all I need to know. OP’s response - no way would I send my kid there.

If she simply just gave a straightforward answer that yes and they are locked up, then I would.

Is obvious OP and her husband have issues and insecurities with owning guns and how they are perceived. Gun openers who are comfortable and secure in having and storing one are not.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


+1


I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.


Maybe not, but when they start shifting uncomfortably I have all the info I need to know. Most people are very bad liars, especially when you catch them off guard.


Unlikely. Most people are going to email or text this question, not ask it at drop off (case in point, the OP). No one would be “shifting uncomfortably” you’ve made that up as what you think would happen. This is a no win question. All it will do if confirm someone is responsible- but it absolutely not will save your kid from danger, if there is any. You might as well ask, “Are you a complete moron and irresponsible parent?” It’s the same question.


DP. How a parent responds to the question tells me all I need to know. OP’s response - no way would I send my kid there.

If she simply just gave a straightforward answer that yes and they are locked up, then I would.

Is obvious OP and her husband have issues and insecurities with owning guns and how they are perceived. Gun openers who are comfortable and secure in having and storing one are not.



typo owners not openers
Anonymous
I would call the mom and explain that as a military family, you do have guns in the home and that they are all locked up in safes etc. if she declines the sleepover despite that information, then you know she is political virtue signaling and good riddance to her. A parent who is genuinely concerned about their child’s safety and who is not virtue signaling would be reassured by your explanation.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't let my DC come to a home of gun owners


Trust me, you already have. People lie all the time. About everything.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, the worst thing is: you can't even imagine -the why- of someone asking this



But there is no why. The guns are stored safely. End of story.

The mom is just some left wing loonie that wants to politicize everything. I feel bad for her kid. He's going to miss a party and end up on the outside of this friend group.

Why are gun nutters so defensive? If the guns are stored safely just say so. OP’s family sound irresponsible.


Personally? I think it's to spread talk to others about the OP having guns. That's why I wouldn't respond. For some people, they exist to stir the pot.


100%

I guarantee the lady thinks this is a way to ostracize someone she feels isn't a Democrat.


Unfortunately everything is politicized these days. Politics is a dangerous weapon.
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t respond. It’s none of her business. I would absolutely not divulge information on if we have guns, how many, how/where they are stored. When you send a child to someone’s house you are trusting they are a responsible parent and that anything that could be extremely dangerous is stored, handled, secured appropriately.


If they respond like OP to what is a very reasonable question, I’d assume they are not responsible parents, and I wouldn’t trust them. Some people actually think that telling kids to stay away from their loaded, unsecured guns is effective and safe. Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re that kind of irresponsible, and I’m not sending the most precious thing in my life to your house.


I don’t think it’s a reasonable question. Either you trust the parents and find them to have sound and safe judgment, or you don’t. If someone did own guns that they keep loaded, unlocked, and accessible to children- they are absolutely not going to actually tell you that.


+1


I have asked this question and parents answered. One said they did and told me how it was stored. My kid went over there multiple times after. I guess I managed to sound nonjudgmental about it. They were not defensive at all in answering the question. Other parents I asked said they did not have any but also didn’t seem to mind the question.


+1. This is definitely a “hit dog hollers” situation. All of you people saying it’s none of your business, I sincerely hope you don’t learn the hard way that it actually is.


You think a parent you barely know if going to tell you about the loaded shotgun in the coat closet? I think not.


Maybe not, but when they start shifting uncomfortably I have all the info I need to know. Most people are very bad liars, especially when you catch them off guard.


Bullsh i t.

I can spot a lib turd demo from a mile away. I toy with them."Honestly, I can't remember if we still have all the hand guns. We lent the rifles to my cousin. Maybe there's one in the basement. Really can't be sure."
Anonymous
"My husband is ex-military and grew up hunting. He is very aware of the proper care and storage of weaponry, and our children have grown up with appropriate instruction about what to do if they find a weapon at a friend's house. Please let me know if Jeremy will be able to attend!"

This neither confirms nor denies, but it does clearly communicate that your child knows what to do whether at your house or someone else's (including informing an adult if another child finds a weapon).
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Anonymous wrote:I would call the mom and explain that as a military family, you do have guns in the home and that they are all locked up in safes etc. if she declines the sleepover despite that information, then you know she is political virtue signaling and good riddance to her. A parent who is genuinely concerned about their child’s safety and who is not virtue signaling would be reassured by your explanation.


Being in the military has nothing to do with having guns. My husband is a retiree and we don't have guns. Very few jobs have jobs that require military personnel taking home guns.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very valid question to ask, and I don't understand why you wouldn't disclose what you said here about how they're stored.


Do you tell the parents of your kid's friends how all of your jewelry is stored and what the value is?


No one has been killed by diamond earrings.


How about steak knives? Do you ask your kid's friend's parents if they lock those up? Garden shears? Axes? Rope?


How often are (pre)teen boys hurt or killed by steak knives, garden shears, axes and ropes? How often do they pick them up if they find them?
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