Thurs Feb 5: Board Work Session

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Anyone watched the live meeting and can inform me what's going on? The agenda said the meeting ends at 5:45 pm, and right now they should be discussing CIP and math pathway. But I just got off from my work and turn on and see people were talking about internship in a zoom meeting? What's going on??

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

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Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All KP to Woodward to avoid split articulation in KP. It should satisfy "don't split our kids and keep community together crowd" satisfied.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watched the live meeting and can inform me what's going on? The agenda said the meeting ends at 5:45 pm, and right now they should be discussing CIP and math pathway. But I just got off from my work and turn on and see people were talking about internship in a zoom meeting? What's going on??

Nothing to discuss so they adjourned.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watched the live meeting and can inform me what's going on? The agenda said the meeting ends at 5:45 pm, and right now they should be discussing CIP and math pathway. But I just got off from my work and turn on and see people were talking about internship in a zoom meeting? What's going on??

Nothing to discuss so they adjourned.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

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Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

+1

Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

It would be helpful to see data impact of swapping Viers Mill for all KP or all GP

[Anonymous]

Where can I find articulation tables or more info on this non recommended alternative? All I see on board docs is an unhelpful map.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

+1

Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

Entire Garret Park and portion of KP(island) to Woodward. VM to WJ

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

+1

Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

It would be helpful to see data impact of swapping Viers Mill for all KP or all GP

Based on rough approximation, it will fit nicely and it will balance poverty between Woodward and WJ instead of concentrating it in one school without any negative for anyone. Except some families would have to shift from WJ to Woodward and they will throw a hissy fit.They shold be ignored and decision should be made for greater good.

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Anonymous wrote:I still haven't found an explanation of why the added 500 seats from Edison, which is a separate school that offers part-time programs and does not confer high school degrees, to Wheaton HS.

Spacing issues?

Edison is the trade school. It's always been a seperate school/program. Kids from all area schools go to it for a half day by choice, not just wheaton.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So much for Frost and Wootton as we know it.

Cold Spring to Hoover and Churchill (that actually makes sense geographically, at least).

Fallsmead and Lakewood getting effed.

Stone Mill and Travillah also being screwed with middle school.

I will actually be shocked if the Board agrees to this as is. But what do I know?

Will the new Wootton (at Crown) be in Region 4 or Region 5?

I don't have any skin in the game since we are not affected by these boundary changes. But as a Gaithersburg resident, I also want to know if Crown will now be accessible to Gaithersburg residents AKA Region 5. I hope it is not going to Region 4 magnet because Region 5 magnet is the worst of all these magnets.

If MCPS spies are on this board, Crown with whichever school is there should be with Region 5. Otherwise this is just a scam - depriving Gaithersburg residents of a brand new school as well as not giving them access to the new labs for magnet kids.

Have the STEM magnet in Crown and move Humanities to Gaithersburg High school.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watched the live meeting and can inform me what's going on? The agenda said the meeting ends at 5:45 pm, and right now they should be discussing CIP and math pathway. But I just got off from my work and turn on and see people were talking about internship in a zoom meeting? What's going on??

They discussed the math changes around 3pm

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So much for Frost and Wootton as we know it.

Cold Spring to Hoover and Churchill (that actually makes sense geographically, at least).

Fallsmead and Lakewood getting effed.

Stone Mill and Travillah also being screwed with middle school.

I will actually be shocked if the Board agrees to this as is. But what do I know?

Will the new Wootton (at Crown) be in Region 4 or Region 5?

I don't have any skin in the game since we are not affected by these boundary changes. But as a Gaithersburg resident, I also want to know if Crown will now be accessible to Gaithersburg residents AKA Region 5. I hope it is not going to Region 4 magnet because Region 5 magnet is the worst of all these magnets.

If MCPS spies are on this board, Crown with whichever school is there should be with Region 5. Otherwise this is just a scam - depriving Gaithersburg residents of a brand new school as well as not giving them access to the new labs for magnet kids.

Have the STEM magnet in Crown and move Humanities to Gaithersburg High school.

Under his recommended option H, Wootton at Crown, the new school is region 4.

Under the non recommended alternate where both Wootton and crown exits, Wootton is region 4 and crown is region 5.

If you want crown in region 5, you need to push the board to adopt the non recommend alternate

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I have a lot of problems with Taylor. I don't like the boundary or regional programs recommendations for a variety of reasons all of which have been articulated on this thread and/or others.

But on a positive note, I am kind of coming around to the allocation of programs in Region 1. I like that they added engineering to Northwood. I like that Einstein, Northwood and Blair each have STEM programs. I think that is a reasonable way to give these schools something that could attract ambitious and high performing students. I am still worried that the Humanities and IB programs at Whitman and BCC will siphon off some of the better resourced kids in the other three schools, and I still think this is all going to be a sh$t show for the first several years if not longer due to lack of resources including staffing anf transportation. I am a teensy bit hopeful that the STEM programs will be attractive enough to keep high performing and well resourced students at these schools.

Sure, these may be hopeful signs, but only if students can travel across MCPS to get to the high schools of their choice. Bus transportation will collapse under Taylor's new vision. He has no interest in logistics - I can imagine him screaming at staff to FIX IT when it falls apart.

From our house, which is also very close to a lot of apartment buildings, my kid could take a public bus to 4 of the 5 schools in Region 1. Whitman is really the only one that would be very difficult for us. I realize this definitely doesn't apply to most families, but I do think in Region 1 the transportation could be okay for some kids, assuming they get into the program they want.

Also in region one. From our house, we could only access 2 of 5 via public bus.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

+1

Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

It would be helpful to see data impact of swapping Viers Mill for all KP or all GP

Based on rough approximation, it will fit nicely and it will balance poverty between Woodward and WJ instead of concentrating it in one school without any negative for anyone. Except some families would have to shift from WJ to Woodward and they will throw a hissy fit.They shold be ignored and decision should be made for greater good.

I doubt it. All current WJ expect to be WJ or Woodward. That is obvious effect of opening Woodward to offset WJ overcrowding.