Thurs Feb 5: Board Work Session

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

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Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

It would be helpful to see data impact of swapping Viers Mill for all KP or all GP

Based on rough approximation, it will fit nicely and it will balance poverty between Woodward and WJ instead of concentrating it in one school without any negative for anyone. Except some families would have to shift from WJ to Woodward and they will throw a hissy fit.They shold be ignored and decision should be made for greater good.

I am not impacted but I am curious how swapping GP compares to swapping KP.

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

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Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

It would be helpful to see data impact of swapping Viers Mill for all KP or all GP

Based on rough approximation, it will fit nicely and it will balance poverty between Woodward and WJ instead of concentrating it in one school without any negative for anyone. Except some families would have to shift from WJ to Woodward and they will throw a hissy fit.They shold be ignored and decision should be made for greater good.

I doubt it. All current WJ expect to be WJ or Woodward. That is obvious effect of opening Woodward to offset WJ overcrowding.

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No one is suggesting putting current WJ out side of future WJ/Woodward. Posters are discussing it;s better to put one high FARMS ES each in WJ and Woodward instead of adding them both in Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dr Taylor play the victim at the outset of his presentation?

Sadly, Dr Taylor suffers from a horrible condition called Main Character Syndrome

Poor Dr. Taylor, living in his multimillion house in Chevy Chase and making over $300,000 per year. If the kitchen is too hot for him, I invite him to leave.

Do his kids go to BCC? Is that why they basically had no boundary changes?

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Anyone who has written to the BOE, what emails did you send it to please?

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Where is Magruder HS in the regional options?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dr Taylor play the victim at the outset of his presentation?

Sadly, Dr Taylor suffers from a horrible condition called Main Character Syndrome

Poor Dr. Taylor, living in his multimillion house in Chevy Chase and making over $300,000 per year. If the kitchen is too hot for him, I invite him to leave.

Do his kids go to BCC? Is that why they basically had no boundary changes?

Silver Creek - BCC

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dr Taylor play the victim at the outset of his presentation?

Sadly, Dr Taylor suffers from a horrible condition called Main Character Syndrome

Poor Dr. Taylor, living in his multimillion house in Chevy Chase and making over $300,000 per year. If the kitchen is too hot for him, I invite him to leave.

He can’t hear you. He got in his elevator and went up to his bedroom.

Or to the video making booth

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What does Stafford county VA say these days?

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Anonymous wrote:Where is Magruder HS in the regional options?

Region 5

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

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Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

bingo

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Anonymous wrote:Anything controversial in the Woodward recommendations? I personally like it for our neighborhood, but curious if there's any hot-button changes included.

I think split articulating Garrett Park and Kensington-Parkwood is going to generate a lot of opposition. There is also a ton of split articulation for Wheaton and Kennedy feeder schools. What I find weird is they do all this split articulation, and Woodward's FARMS rate ends up more than double that of Walter Johnson. That's insane to me for high schools that are so close to each other. Viers Mill ES should be zoned to WJ, not Woodward.

+1

Woodward and WJ should be getting one high FARMS ES each. Putting 2 in one and zero ion another makes no sense then both HS are less than mile apart. Ceoncentrating poverty should be avoided whenver it's possible.

Taylor is MAGA so he is against diversity, equity and inclusion. He uses the word equity a lot, but it is performative and it is clear in the way he uses it that he doesn't know what that word means and/or doesn't care.

I don't know him, but this makes no sense to me. it was a low hanging fruit to put one high FARMS ES each in Woodward and WJ. Not very complicated unless WJ PTA lobbied to make WJ Whitman 2.0 and got this result.

I am neither in Woodward nor in WJ but this jumps out. Putting 35% FARMS in new school is poor start specially given special program is also not much to do with academics. Worst possible combination of FARMS and program out of all choices.

But just picture this. Now, a BOE member gets to bravely stand up for equity by proposing moving Veirs Mill to Walter Johnson. The rest of the BOE gets to bravely vote in favor of this. All without impacting property values in the Town of Kensington. Yang and Silvestre will campaign on their bravery in their runs for Council.

It may not work as you are imagining and recommended option is liklely to be approved. There is no Woodward PTA to advocate for Woodward.

Does Viers Mill ES want to go to WJ?

The WJ PTA has not taken a position on any particular option.

I am in VM and love to be assinged to WJ. I don't see why one any one will object. It;s not like WJ and Woodward are far apar. They are next to each opther on same road less than mile.

Same! And same! I think it would solve some of the remaining problems with this option

Viers Mill to WJ and who to Woodward? All of KP?

All of GP to Woodward

It would be helpful to see data impact of swapping Viers Mill for all KP or all GP

Based on rough approximation, it will fit nicely and it will balance poverty between Woodward and WJ instead of concentrating it in one school without any negative for anyone. Except some families would have to shift from WJ to Woodward and they will throw a hissy fit.They shold be ignored and decision should be made for greater good.

I doubt it. All current WJ expect to be WJ or Woodward. That is obvious effect of opening Woodward to offset WJ overcrowding.

???

No one is suggesting putting current WJ out side of future WJ/Woodward. Posters are discussing it;s better to put one high FARMS ES each in WJ and Woodward instead of adding them both in Woodward.

no kidding. so why did someone mention a hissy fit?

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Anonymous wrote:I think this might be a stunt. I predict they're gonna have Taylor be the bad guy and recommend Option H, but then will have the BOE reject his recommendation so that people think the board is actually responsive to public engagement and feedback and not just a doormat for Taylor.

wishful thinking.

spending hundreds of millions to build a new high school and turning it into a "holding" school would not go over well.

Correct. That’s why Dr. Taylor already decided last fall to go with Option H. EF&G would have made Crown a holding school, a thought he couldn’t stomach after spending the money to build Crown.

Actually, it wasn't Taylor's idea. An MCCPTA volunteer suggested the move this winter. Taylor really doesn't have good ideas, generally.

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PTA reps have been plants for years. MCPS feeds them the talking points.

Think what you want, but no BS. MCPS gets plenty of pushback from MCCPTA, which you would know if you were actually involved.

Which is how it is known about MCPS using PTA as plants.

LOL. PTA is a garden of cacti to MCPS.

And they don't get $25k/member

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Current VM family and we are pleased. We would rather be in Woodward than WJ

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Anonymous wrote:Current VM family and we are pleased. We would rather be in Woodward than WJ

I am curious why. With this new map, I struggle to see a single advantage of being in Woodward than being in WJ. Maybe I am missing something.

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Anonymous wrote:Current VM family and we are pleased. We would rather be in Woodward than WJ

I am curious why. With this new map, I struggle to see a single advantage of being in Woodward than being in WJ. Maybe I am missing something.

I think it's either that:
- loyalty from WJ families for Taylor, maybe WJ breaks the top 10 HSs in MD due to lower FARMslS rate increasing test scores, helping Taylor get his next job; or
- he made a deal with one or more BOE members to give them an option they can tweak to build up their cred as anti racists and counter the perception the BOE is a weak, useless body