ICE is now arresting preschoolers and sending them to detention centers

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Anonymous wrote:All of the articles have said he was in Pre K. So either Head Start (federally funded) or Minnesota taxpayer-funded Pre K that is not available to all families in Minnesota or the US.

If the parents were working (here legally under asylum), they were paying taxes. So this point is moot.

They arrived in Nov of 2024. How much do you think they have likely paid in tax since then?

They arrived legally so why does it matter?

Public schools are drowning under the weight.

The folks in Minnesota don’t seem to think so.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the articles have said he was in Pre K. So either Head Start (federally funded) or Minnesota taxpayer-funded Pre K that is not available to all families in Minnesota or the US.

Actually the fine folks of Minnesota voted overwhelmingly in favor or expanded Voluntary Pre Kindergarten. A program available to 4 year olds who meet eligibility criteria, FARMS, English language learners and Foster Kids. They knew who would benefit and they supported it overwhelmingly.

Sounds like this poor baby just turned 5. Bless him.

I digress, anywho, most non morons understand the value in early education, and that it should be available to all, including those who lack the ability to pay and that all society benefits when young children, and especially so for the most vulnerable, get a good headstart.

It’s one year and in pays dividends in the long run as less services are needed later in if kids show up ready with basic Kindergarten skills (mastery of and instruction in English of the ABCs, colors, and numbers etc.,).

These are children we are talking about and possible future citizens. We want them to be literate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the articles have said he was in Pre K. So either Head Start (federally funded) or Minnesota taxpayer-funded Pre K that is not available to all families in Minnesota or the US.

Actually the fine folks of Minnesota voted overwhelmingly in favor or expanded Voluntary Pre Kindergarten. A program available to 4 year olds who meet eligibility criteria, FARMS, English language learners and Foster Kids. They knew who would benefit and they supported it overwhelmingly.

Sounds like this poor baby just turned 5. Bless him.

I digress, anywho, most non morons understand the value in early education, and that it should be available to all, including those who lack the ability to pay and that all society benefits when young children, and especially so for the most vulnerable, get a good headstart.

It’s one year and in pays dividends in the long run as less services are needed later in if kids show up ready with basic Kindergarten skills (mastery of and instruction in English of the ABCs, colors, and numbers etc.,).

These are children we are talking about and possible future citizens. We want them to be literate.

It has been shown that any benefit gained by these low-income preschools programs is erased by third grade. It’s a huge cost with no lasting benefit.

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I say follow the money!

This is so outrageous that there has to be big money incentives behind it. These people have lost their darn minds. There is no way Trump and his grifter squad aren’t getting rich off of this.

All of this is giving me rebuild IRAQ vibes! I’m thinking bags of cash and Blackrock running amuck with paid ICE mercenaries.

How many detention facilities did Halliburton build?

Who are all of the concessions, transportation, detention facilities contracts going too.

I know we are all footing the bill but who is getting rich?

When do the MAGA idiots wake up and realize they’ve been duped once again, nothing more than a bunch of useful idiots.

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Blackwater, but BlackRock may be involved too.

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https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/list-of-major-ice-updates-in-minnesota-on-wednesday-jan-21

Long list of egregious actions by “law enforcement”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am appalled, sad, scared, and outraged. I feel powerless to stop them.

What can we do? I email my reps, post on social media, donate, and will canvass for the Midterms.

But we have to do more. What can we do?

From the homeland security X
account….sorry, not sorry.

“Today, Border Patrol agents who were in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area as part of a targeted enforcement operation were repeatedly harassed and blocked by hostile crowds while simply trying to take bathroom breaks.
At each gas station where the agents stopped to use the restroom, groups of agitators appeared, yelled at them, stalked them, and even tried to prevent law enforcement vehicles from leaving, creating unsafe conditions. At one stop, individuals in the crowd threw food at the agents. At their final gas station stop, someone spit on an agent. When an agent moved to detain the person who spit on him, the crowed tackled and attacked the agents while surrounding them.“

Omg! Poor babies!!

(What F snowflakes)

[Anonymous]

Lets bring this back

Preschoolers, arrested.

5 years old.

[Anonymous]

That photo gives echoes of Elian in the closet. Only all the Republicans were supposedly outraged by those tactics.

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Anonymous wrote:This is long but I don't want to paraphrase, copied from reddit. Poster has been on reddit since 2007, almost 5000 post karma and over 112,000 comment karma (also note the part about not being able to go to church because ICE is watching the church)

Good afternoon, reddit.

I live in Minnesota and have been working closely with several mutual aid organizations. I want to share a story with the dads of reddit that may give a glimpse of what is happening to my neighbors.

A few days ago, I received a call from a friend. She told me that ICE was outside her neighbor's house. My friend was scared. She is in the US on a green card, but many green card holders are being detained for long periods of time, and some are being removed to Texas. She can't afford to be away from her job or her kids for any amount of time, so the thought of potentially extended detention fills her with dread. Her hands literally shake every time ICE is near her home or she hears a whistle. Again, my friend is here legally.

She asked me to come watch her house until ICE left, which I did. ICE was leaving as I got there. She then told me that her neighbor did not feel safe coming home and her kids were home alone. The neighbor's oldest child was 12 and they were only supposed to be home alone for a few minutes while they waited for their mom to get home. The mom also has a green card (which I know because later the mom asked me to find some information to send to her immigration lawyer).

I got in contact with the mom. She was safe and with people who were sheltering her, but she was scared for her kids. I ended up going in to sit with her kids until she got home. I ask you to imagine being so scared to return to your home that you would allow a man you have never met to sit with your 2, 7, and 12 year old children. Because she did. She did because her neighbor trusted me and none of her neighbors could safely come outside.

The oldest child let me in, and I went up to their apartment. When I entered, I found the kids hiding in an interior hallway of a fully dark apartment. They were scared to let me turn the lights on because la migra (ICE) might be outside. ICE had been banging on the front door of their building ten minutes ago, so they weren't being unreasonable. And they were right. La migra was loitering in the area. ICE was also, unfortunately, on the block where the mother was sheltering.

It took an hour of me watching out the window before they would let me turn a light on in the dining room at the back of the apartment. I spent a total of 4 1/2 hours with those kids.

The kids were incredible. The little ones were understandably confused about why this big white guy was in their house, and they wanted to show me all their things. The older child was quiet and scared. After a few hours, the older child started talking to me. They shared their experiences with me and I am going to fail to adequately share them with you.

They go to a public school but are now schooling from home. On their last day in school, their classes were virtually empty. No one in their neighborhood feels safe sending their kids to school anymore. They shared that almost everyone they know has had a parent, uncle, aunt, or cousin arrested by ICE. Most of them were released several days later without charges. They showed me videos of ICE agents arresting their friend's father and another man in a store, of ICE agents arresting another friend's uncle on a construction site, of ICE agents pulling a friend's cousin out of his work truck. They had dozens of videos of people they know being arrested for nothing more than being brown. Again, most of the people arrested were held for a few days and released without charges. But that is a few days away from their families, a few days of their spouses not knowing where they are, a few days of not making money to buy groceries or pay rent. A few days of fear.

One of the videos I saw was peaceful (that's not the right word, but it works. Also, really, all of them were). The man went with ICE with no fuss. They showed me a picture of him after he was released a few days later. He was dirty, his clothes were torn, and it looked like he had been beaten up.

They told me ICE was watching their church. They can't go to church in person anymore and are instead doing their confirmation classes and "attending" church services online.

They and their siblings haven't been outside in two weeks.

They shared with me that this is the norm among their friends. Middle schoolers should be having fun and should be being socially awkward together. Instead, they are hiding in dark apartments listening to shouting, sirens, and whistles wondering who is being taken and if they will be back. Wondering if their mom is going to get home from work safely. Wondering if their friends are going to disappear.

They also shared they believe in the USA and that they don't think this situation will last. The 12 year old, in spite of all that happened to them, was still positive about how things were going to turn out. They were amazing.

We did reunite the children with their mother, but it took hours until ICE cleared out enough for us to do it safely. We also organized some legal services for the family, which is why I was in their immigration paperwork.

Dads of Reddit, my heart has never hurt as much as it did when I got home from that apartment. I can't think of those kids without tearing up and the worst part is, I know it isn't going to get better anytime soon. There are thousands of families and tens of thousands of kids like those three. Kids whose parents did everything right, but who still live with the constant fear that they or their parents are going to disappear. They are suffering and they will carry this trauma for the rest of their lives.

Please pay attention to what is happening here.

Thank you for sharing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am appalled, sad, scared, and outraged. I feel powerless to stop them.

What can we do? I email my reps, post on social media, donate, and will canvass for the Midterms.

But we have to do more. What can we do?

From the homeland security X
account….sorry, not sorry.

“Today, Border Patrol agents who were in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area as part of a targeted enforcement operation were repeatedly harassed and blocked by hostile crowds while simply trying to take bathroom breaks.
At each gas station where the agents stopped to use the restroom, groups of agitators appeared, yelled at them, stalked them, and even tried to prevent law enforcement vehicles from leaving, creating unsafe conditions. At one stop, individuals in the crowd threw food at the agents. At their final gas station stop, someone spit on an agent. When an agent moved to detain the person who spit on him, the crowed tackled and attacked the agents while surrounding them.“

That's the first good news in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am appalled, sad, scared, and outraged. I feel powerless to stop them.

What can we do? I email my reps, post on social media, donate, and will canvass for the Midterms.

But we have to do more. What can we do?

Get rid of Miller. This is all him. Until he, Vought and Thiel are gone, this is the America we’ll live in even after Trump.

[Anonymous]

I will preface this by acknowledging that what happened is sad for this boy who had begun his life here. And not how I’d want things done if I was in charge.

But also wondering - as the media and PPs are accepting at face value that the father has a pending asylum claim, per the attorney. I’m assuming, if he does, then he will be interviewed while in detention, as is still happening. It may be that he goes through the process and is not found eligible for asylum. What do you make of this?

[Anonymous]

DHS is really evil. They lie, lie and lie again.

ST PAUL, Minn. — The Minnesota Department of Corrections held a news conference Thursday morning to address what it calls "misinformation" by the Department of Homeland Security regarding ICE in the state.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/ice-in-minnesota/mn-dept-of-corrections-refutes-ice-claims-on-number-of-arrests/89-20804605-15d4-4a75-b08b-246c8cb49389

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will preface this by acknowledging that what happened is sad for this boy who had begun his life here. And not how I’d want things done if I was in charge.

But also wondering - as the media and PPs are accepting at face value that the father has a pending asylum claim, per the attorney. I’m assuming, if he does, then he will be interviewed while in detention, as is still happening. It may be that he goes through the process and is not found eligible for asylum. What do you make of this?

Troll alert: the reasonable both sides troll has entered the chat.