Michigan ED is out

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, seems like U Mich may have misread the situation. Early decision is a different deal than early action. Future applicants are not going to want to burn their ED option next year on Michigan given the high deferral rate.

Correct, but it’s not that.

After the football coaching scandal, NO ONE will apply to U.Mich next year.

My kid is not no one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!

Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred.

DP. I'd love to figure out the differentiator, why some are accepted and some deferred. Presumably you are also full pay. Random thoughts: maybe the high school or rank? I'm just shooting in the dark; my kid is looking to apply next year.

The HS you come from matters
The LOR (they actually look at them which is a surprise)
Talent is important (rare or random awards are more important for MI than other flagships0
They are looking for "character"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!

Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred.

DP. I'd love to figure out the differentiator, why some are accepted and some deferred. Presumably you are also full pay. Random thoughts: maybe the high school or rank? I'm just shooting in the dark; my kid is looking to apply next year.

It was probably the essay.

[Anonymous]

Yes, letters of recommendation matter, but the most comments on my kid’s application were about the essay. It was, quite frankly, their strongest essay because they were so passionate about their field of study and why they wanted to study it at Michigan. Leadership is also important, he doesn’t have to just be in the form of being a captain or a president. There are ways you can be a leader without a title.

[Anonymous]

Yes, that long MI essay is very intentional and a way to weed kids out. If the long essay wasn't as detailed and unique as it could have been in showing fit for a major/college, try to do it in the shorter continuing interest essay.

There's a MI whisperer essay coach (like the Cornell one) specific to these schools with this very specific long essay. It matters - at both schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!

Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred.

DP. I'd love to figure out the differentiator, why some are accepted and some deferred. Presumably you are also full pay. Random thoughts: maybe the high school or rank? I'm just shooting in the dark; my kid is looking to apply next year.

The HS you come from matters
The LOR (they actually look at them which is a surprise)
Talent is important (rare or random awards are more important for MI than other flagships0
They are looking for "character"

I have always heard this, but our HS sends lots of kids to Michigan each year and only one of about a dozen kids who applied ED was admitted. This makes me think that being from a known HS might have worked against applicants; if they know that they get good yields from a school historically, they might think it’s worth the risk to push kids (who have now told them Michigan is their first choice) to EA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:3.91 GPA, 1510 SAT, 11 AP 5s, In-state, president of key club. Child got flat out rejected from LSA today. We're currently distraught.

I'm sorry. Are you my anonymous Grosse Pointe buddy?

How about MSU Honors College/Pitt (my undergrad)/Indiana then transfer if not happy?

Our backup plan was Dearborn then transfer. The campus actually has decent amenities. I realize your kid is overqualified.

When I was an MBA, my BBA mentee was a transfer in to A2 at the sophomore mark.

Don't rule it out. Plus there's always grad school.

Anonymous Grosse Pointe buddy here! (Unless there is more than one of us…). That’s not me, not our time yet. But I’m SO curious what the stats are for our high school. Certainly a lot of kids always go to Michigan, but now how many did ED and what was the acceptance rate??? Hope to find out because it will have a ripple effect for a long time.

There are probably about 3-4 posters from Detroit Metro with kids already at Michigan who pop in. And I think 2 from Grosse Pointe. I live in Woodward Dream Cruise Land, a few miles north of Eminem's favorite road. Of course I have no idea if the others are still here. But it's funny when people know that the governor went to MSU and where the best restaurants are in A2.

Naviance looked pretty reliable for our public in-state high school for Class of 24. 3.8 unweighted is a bright line cutoff (most of these would be top 10-15% of class with APs and IB classes). We don't have reliably large numbers of AP classes and only 2 full year AP credits available to 9th & 10th graders. Also, although IB English, History and Language are popular, few students are pursuing the IB diploma. Most of our kids go LSA. A few Engineers.

Now I need to know who the other Grosse Pointe poster is! LOL We have a lot of AP classes, you only get the weighted grade if you take the exam, nothing else is weighted. No APs for 9th and unless you are accelerated for math I believe only 1 AP for 10th. But it's the AP wild west come 11th and 12th. Obviously Michigan is very familiar with the school. I haven't seen anyone share that their child was accepted yet, but I don't know a ton a 12th grade families.

[Anonymous]

Weather check for the Michigan haters.

Bethesda is 38 right now. Ann Arbor 31.

I'm in the Detroit metro area. There's a beautiful pastel sunset over the icy decorative ponds at my office complex. Blue, pink, and mauve with jet contrails.

[Anonymous]

We celebrated yesterday, but DS was admitted OOS 3.8/1390 for an economics major!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weather check for the Michigan haters.

Bethesda is 38 right now. Ann Arbor 31.

I'm in the Detroit metro area. There's a beautiful pastel sunset over the icy decorative ponds at my office complex. Blue, pink, and mauve with jet contrails.

And it's going to be close to 50 on Thursday! Sunset last night was beautiful as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kind of shocked to see these responses of kids with <3.8 GPA and <1500 SAT getting in OOS.

Are people reporting the recalculated unweighted GPA (dropping the plus or minus) or unweighted GPA from the high school. One of my kids attended a private high school where an A- was 90-92, A 93-96 and A+ 97-100. Since they had a few A- and maybe one class below A-, their re-calculated unweighted GPA was higher. The other thing is to understand how the GOA compares to other people at the same high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!

Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred.

DP. I'd love to figure out the differentiator, why some are accepted and some deferred. Presumably you are also full pay. Random thoughts: maybe the high school or rank? I'm just shooting in the dark; my kid is looking to apply next year.

The HS you come from matters
The LOR (they actually look at them which is a surprise)
Talent is important (rare or random awards are more important for MI than other flagships0
They are looking for "character"

I have always heard this, but our HS sends lots of kids to Michigan each year and only one of about a dozen kids who applied ED was admitted. This makes me think that being from a known HS might have worked against applicants; if they know that they get good yields from a school historically, they might think it’s worth the risk to push kids (who have now told them Michigan is their first choice) to EA.

Perhaps many highly qualified ED applicants who were not admitted relied too heavily on their grades/test score figuring that would be enough. Maybe a lack of effort in their essays caused a deferral?

[Anonymous]

Ha. Nope.