Troll. No way 3.4 is getting in with all these 4.0 1550/35++ kids getting deferred. Also, everyone is full pay OOS. |
No one cares |
| Kind of shocked to see these responses of kids with <3.8 GPA and <1500 SAT getting in OOS. |
That is terrible! I’m sorry. Seems so wrong your kid got rejected while much lower stats kids from OOS are getting in. What other schools are they hoping for? |
Typically, out of state kids have higher stats than in-state kids at UM. Some of what I am seeing reported is rather suspicious. |
| The kids we know who got in early action last year were all the 4.0 unloaded, double digit AP class, submit a very good standardized test score type of kid who also was involved in some sort of leadership. I’m highly skeptical that they are taking 3.4 GPA applicants at this stage. |
high schools are very different. we're at a top 20 high school (in America) and there is one 4.0 every 3 or 4 years. 3.8 gets you into plenty of T20 schools (including MIT last year). 3.5 gets you into Umich. Not sure about 3.4, but possible with right major. |
Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred. |
|
Could anyone elaborate on undersubscribed majors? Seeing a lot of OOS LSA kids deferred - not just engineering and Ross. Did it matter what you were majoring in within LSA? Or are people saying the other undersubscribed schools (kinesiology, nursing, education etc) are getting in? That makes more sense to me if Michigan reads by school and those are direct admit and you are stuck there - no one applied to those schools from my kid’s OOS private that I am aware so I have no anecdotal data.
What doesn’t track for me is I thought the small schools mentioned above have an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed. So my thought is undersubscribed majors in-state kids? Or a particular in-state demographic profile? Maybe? Grasping at straws here. |
Do not assume smaller college are undersubscribed. Some are harder to get into that LSA because there are fewer seats. Kinesiology, for example, is a harder admit bc of size and one of the programs is a prehealth pathway. |
Yes the major within LSA matters. It’s a 550 word essay and you’re supposed to list multiple academic interests. They can tell if it’s a real interest or not. I know the kids that got into LSA: English Jewish Studies Women’s and gender studies |
Yes, I said that in my post when I wrote, “I thought the small schools mentioned above had an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.” My understanding is all the smaller colleges are supposed to be harder admits than LSA. Also, I have not heard of an admit in the smaller schools (granted, I think the sample size is small too). So it mattered what a kid said about LSA major even though that is not binding? I still feel like I am missing something. I am thinking it must have been demographics. |
Major matters at every selective school. Even though it is not binding - what you put down matters in how they shape a class. Why? They have huge departments that need kids to teach. They want more kids in these majors to justify the faculty expense. Talk to some folks inside selective admissions, and they will tell you the scoop. Listen to some podcasts. The major absolutely absolutely matters as an institutional priority, even though it is not binding. |
|
It might matter but there’s more to the story - lots of LSA kids deferred at kid’s school including undersubscribed niche majors. Kids with stats who naviance showed were admitted every previous year on the scattergram.
|
DP. I'd love to figure out the differentiator, why some are accepted and some deferred. Presumably you are also full pay. Random thoughts: maybe the high school or rank? I'm just shooting in the dark; my kid is looking to apply next year. |