Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

Let's try this again. I'm not particularly Christian I don't go to church, but the Christians in this Nation see to it that I get a weekend, Sunday and now Saturday, as well as Christmas off as PTO (Christmas isn't even really a Christian holiday). People I have worked for from other countries, don't want to give me these days off, and they don't replace them with other days or benefits. So yeah, religious freedom is a bad deal for me. Maybe in other sectors where you don't have a fairly regular work week, it might not be as important, but for me it's a bad deal.

Religious freedom is good for me because nonChristians are willing to work my Sunday and holiday shifts. Christmas is still a federal holiday in America. Regular work week is still M-F unless there is work to be done, and that does not have to do with religion.

Not sure your beef, it does not actually make any logical sense. Diversity of religions ENSURES you don't have to work Christian holidays for work that requires weekend and holidays because nonchristians will gladly take those shifts.

You literally do not make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

Let's try this again. I'm not particularly Christian I don't go to church, but the Christians in this Nation see to it that I get a weekend, Sunday and now Saturday, as well as Christmas off as PTO (Christmas isn't even really a Christian holiday). People I have worked for from other countries, don't want to give me these days off, and they don't replace them with other days or benefits. So yeah, religious freedom is a bad deal for me. Maybe in other sectors where you don't have a fairly regular work week, it might not be as important, but for me it's a bad deal.

Religious freedom is good for me because nonChristians are willing to work my Sunday and holiday shifts. Christmas is still a federal holiday in America. Regular work week is still M-F unless there is work to be done, and that does not have to do with religion.

Not sure your beef, it does not actually make any logical sense. Diversity of religions ENSURES you don't have to work Christian holidays for work that requires weekend and holidays because nonchristians will gladly take those shifts.

You literally do not make sense.

I have worked for Muslims and Jews, and they did not believe in this, only gave the minimum obligatory days off even then called me at home. Christmas and Sunday made them upset, they were remiss to give me those days off, and they definitely didn't say have a merry PTO day here leave early on Christmas eve.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

Let's try this again. I'm not particularly Christian I don't go to church, but the Christians in this Nation see to it that I get a weekend, Sunday and now Saturday, as well as Christmas off as PTO (Christmas isn't even really a Christian holiday). People I have worked for from other countries, don't want to give me these days off, and they don't replace them with other days or benefits. So yeah, religious freedom is a bad deal for me. Maybe in other sectors where you don't have a fairly regular work week, it might not be as important, but for me it's a bad deal.

Religious freedom is good for me because nonChristians are willing to work my Sunday and holiday shifts. Christmas is still a federal holiday in America. Regular work week is still M-F unless there is work to be done, and that does not have to do with religion.

Not sure your beef, it does not actually make any logical sense. Diversity of religions ENSURES you don't have to work Christian holidays for work that requires weekend and holidays because nonchristians will gladly take those shifts.

You literally do not make sense.

I have worked for Muslims and Jews, and they did not believe in this, only gave the minimum obligatory days off even then called me at home. Christmas and Sunday made them upset, they were remiss to give me those days off, and they definitely didn't say have a merry PTO day here leave early on Christmas eve.

Then go work for someone else. I wouldn't ever work for a Christian national misogynist. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps solve your own problems rather than whining here repeatedly because we have a first amendment.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

Let's try this again. I'm not particularly Christian I don't go to church, but the Christians in this Nation see to it that I get a weekend, Sunday and now Saturday, as well as Christmas off as PTO (Christmas isn't even really a Christian holiday). People I have worked for from other countries, don't want to give me these days off, and they don't replace them with other days or benefits. So yeah, religious freedom is a bad deal for me. Maybe in other sectors where you don't have a fairly regular work week, it might not be as important, but for me it's a bad deal.

Religious freedom is good for me because nonChristians are willing to work my Sunday and holiday shifts. Christmas is still a federal holiday in America. Regular work week is still M-F unless there is work to be done, and that does not have to do with religion.

Not sure your beef, it does not actually make any logical sense. Diversity of religions ENSURES you don't have to work Christian holidays for work that requires weekend and holidays because nonchristians will gladly take those shifts.

You literally do not make sense.

I have worked for Muslims and Jews, and they did not believe in this, only gave the minimum obligatory days off even then called me at home. Christmas and Sunday made them upset, they were remiss to give me those days off, and they definitely didn't say have a merry PTO day here leave early on Christmas eve.

So you worked for sucky people and it made you racist?

Stop using anecdote to generalize, you just sound unintelligent. I would fire you too.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

Those speak to actions. Am I allowed to simply believe there is no Creator (and say so) or should I be kicked out for that?

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

I see your intolerance and I raise you a
Suck it up, buttercup.

You don't like it here, go somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

I see your intolerance and I raise you a
Suck it up, buttercup.

You don't like it here, go somewhere else.

The PP has repeatedly whined about some specific anecdote of managers not giving him time off because he believes they did not care about Christian holidays. It is very unclear as no matter who you work for, sometimes work on weekends or holidays could be required depending on industry. My husband worked marketing events and frequently had to work weekends or holidays when the events took place. It is fair to quit a job with any employer if they don't allow for your personal needs.

However, I counter with a different point that having nonchristian workers is actually very helpful in a job that requires year round work such as healthcare. I would suggest Christians who feel them must be at church on sundays do not work in a hospital as that was frequently one of the biggest scheduling difficulties, only made easier by the fact that we had a diverse workforce in terms of cultures and religions.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

I see your intolerance and I raise you a
Suck it up, buttercup.

You don't like it here, go somewhere else.

The PP has repeatedly whined about some specific anecdote of managers not giving him time off because he believes they did not care about Christian holidays. It is very unclear as no matter who you work for, sometimes work on weekends or holidays could be required depending on industry. My husband worked marketing events and frequently had to work weekends or holidays when the events took place. It is fair to quit a job with any employer if they don't allow for your personal needs.

However, I counter with a different point that having nonchristian workers is actually very helpful in a job that requires year round work such as healthcare. I would suggest Christians who feel them must be at church on sundays do not work in a hospital as that was frequently one of the biggest scheduling difficulties, only made easier by the fact that we had a diverse workforce in terms of cultures and religions.

Just sounds like more intolerance about my concerns based on a few edge cases that don't apply to me in my line of work.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

I see your intolerance and I raise you a
Suck it up, buttercup.

You don't like it here, go somewhere else.

The PP has repeatedly whined about some specific anecdote of managers not giving him time off because he believes they did not care about Christian holidays. It is very unclear as no matter who you work for, sometimes work on weekends or holidays could be required depending on industry. My husband worked marketing events and frequently had to work weekends or holidays when the events took place. It is fair to quit a job with any employer if they don't allow for your personal needs.

However, I counter with a different point that having nonchristian workers is actually very helpful in a job that requires year round work such as healthcare. I would suggest Christians who feel them must be at church on sundays do not work in a hospital as that was frequently one of the biggest scheduling difficulties, only made easier by the fact that we had a diverse workforce in terms of cultures and religions.

Just sounds like more intolerance about my concerns based on a few edge cases that don't apply to me in my line of work.

If you legitimately think there was discrimination based on religion, file a lawsuit. However without more context, it is difficult to know if there truly was. Some industries/jobs will require work on holidays and Sundays. Being Christian still does not automatically mean you get those days off depending on the nature of the work. As an employer, I have not been able to grant every holiday request because healthcare staffing 24/7 takes priority.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

I see your intolerance and I raise you a
Suck it up, buttercup.

You don't like it here, go somewhere else.

The PP has repeatedly whined about some specific anecdote of managers not giving him time off because he believes they did not care about Christian holidays. It is very unclear as no matter who you work for, sometimes work on weekends or holidays could be required depending on industry. My husband worked marketing events and frequently had to work weekends or holidays when the events took place. It is fair to quit a job with any employer if they don't allow for your personal needs.

However, I counter with a different point that having nonchristian workers is actually very helpful in a job that requires year round work such as healthcare. I would suggest Christians who feel them must be at church on sundays do not work in a hospital as that was frequently one of the biggest scheduling difficulties, only made easier by the fact that we had a diverse workforce in terms of cultures and religions.

Just sounds like more intolerance about my concerns based on a few edge cases that don't apply to me in my line of work.

If you legitimately think there was discrimination based on religion, file a lawsuit. However without more context, it is difficult to know if there truly was. Some industries/jobs will require work on holidays and Sundays. Being Christian still does not automatically mean you get those days off depending on the nature of the work. As an employer, I have not been able to grant every holiday request because healthcare staffing 24/7 takes priority.

You see this is the break down you feel minimally fulfilling legal obligations is going to make for a decent workplace or that these cases have to meet the categorical definition of discrimination. It's going to be a pretty hard life for you if you think that all workplace conventions have to be a consequence of legislation. We could just ban Islam, it would be easier, than codifying each and every thing. "Ye must say merry PTO day or else, we will file for discrimination!", that would be absurd. But... they don't do it, and we don't like them.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

I see your intolerance and I raise you a
Suck it up, buttercup.

You don't like it here, go somewhere else.

The PP has repeatedly whined about some specific anecdote of managers not giving him time off because he believes they did not care about Christian holidays. It is very unclear as no matter who you work for, sometimes work on weekends or holidays could be required depending on industry. My husband worked marketing events and frequently had to work weekends or holidays when the events took place. It is fair to quit a job with any employer if they don't allow for your personal needs.

However, I counter with a different point that having nonchristian workers is actually very helpful in a job that requires year round work such as healthcare. I would suggest Christians who feel them must be at church on sundays do not work in a hospital as that was frequently one of the biggest scheduling difficulties, only made easier by the fact that we had a diverse workforce in terms of cultures and religions.

Just sounds like more intolerance about my concerns based on a few edge cases that don't apply to me in my line of work.

If you legitimately think there was discrimination based on religion, file a lawsuit. However without more context, it is difficult to know if there truly was. Some industries/jobs will require work on holidays and Sundays. Being Christian still does not automatically mean you get those days off depending on the nature of the work. As an employer, I have not been able to grant every holiday request because healthcare staffing 24/7 takes priority.

You see this is the break down you feel minimally fulfilling legal obligations is going to make for a decent workplace or that these cases have to meet the categorical definition of discrimination. It's going to be a pretty hard life for you if you think that all workplace conventions have to be a consequence of legislation. We could just ban Islam, it would be easier, than codifying each and every thing. "Ye must say merry PTO day or else, we will file for discrimination!", that would be absurd. But... they don't do it, and we don't like them.

We have plenty of legal obligations in the workplace that have absolutely no nexus with religion and things work out alright for the most part. Certainly, a legal system which provides remedy for those who have been illegally discriminated against in the workplace on the basis of religion is much, much easier than "ban[ning] Islam," which is a weird and unamerican thing to advocate for.

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Anonymous wrote:Try pushing LGBTQ in an Islamic country and see how that works out for you. Write back.

Nobody is “pushing lgbtq” on anyone.

Try “not pushing” lgbtq on anyone in an Islamic country. What freedoms you take for granted are entirely dependent upon a Christian heritage.

Which brings me back to my original question. What country that was never Christian do you consider free?

Cato rates Japan as freer than the United States, or is Cato too woke and leftist for your kind ever since they published a report finding that politically-motivated violence is primarily a right-wing issue?

In any event, you can stop with the non sequiturs now that someone has held your hand and spoonfed you the information you were looking for.

Japan has also been occupied by the USA, a Christian nation, who wrote their constitution for them. At least you tried.

Japan's Constitution was indeed written by the US but it has absolutely no Christian doctrine in it whatsoever, and in fact has nothing at all to do with Christianity. Furthermore, it strongly promotes separation of church and state, which was an intentional choice made to prevent Japan from returning to the State Shinto that drove its militarism.

"At least you tried" - and failed - to imply Christianity had some value there.

I think you’re making my point for me here. Japan never developed freedom or even chose it. It was imposed during a military occupation, which is pretty lulzy. It’s akin to the situation in Hong Kong, where it was free only so long as the British occupied it. That freedom didn’t survive a generation on its own.

Neither Japan nor Hong Kong ever become free without occupation by a Christian nation, a topic which probably deserves its own thread.

My thesis remains, without Christ you will not find freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:Try pushing LGBTQ in an Islamic country and see how that works out for you. Write back.

Nobody is “pushing lgbtq” on anyone.

Try “not pushing” lgbtq on anyone in an Islamic country. What freedoms you take for granted are entirely dependent upon a Christian heritage.

Which brings me back to my original question. What country that was never Christian do you consider free?

Cato rates Japan as freer than the United States, or is Cato too woke and leftist for your kind ever since they published a report finding that politically-motivated violence is primarily a right-wing issue?

In any event, you can stop with the non sequiturs now that someone has held your hand and spoonfed you the information you were looking for.

Japan has also been occupied by the USA, a Christian nation, who wrote their constitution for them. At least you tried.

Japan's Constitution was indeed written by the US but it has absolutely no Christian doctrine in it whatsoever, and in fact has nothing at all to do with Christianity. Furthermore, it strongly promotes separation of church and state, which was an intentional choice made to prevent Japan from returning to the State Shinto that drove its militarism.

"At least you tried" - and failed - to imply Christianity had some value there.

I think you’re making my point for me here. Japan never developed freedom or even chose it. It was imposed during a military occupation, which is pretty lulzy. It’s akin to the situation in Hong Kong, where it was free only so long as the British occupied it. That freedom didn’t survive a generation on its own.

Neither Japan nor Hong Kong ever become free without occupation by a Christian nation, a topic which probably deserves its own thread.

My thesis remains, without Christ you will not find freedom.

Nobody - except perhaps the profoundly stupid - is fooled by your constantly moving goalposts.

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Anonymous wrote:When do we get to criticize these backwards Islam countries.

The breadth and depth historically, present day, lack of freedoms. Slavery entire countries dedicated to the slave trade. America had slavery, like a few rich whites owned some slaves. Christian abolitionists stopped the practice. They went to war to stop slavery. In the whole history of slavery when did an Islamist ever lift a finger to stop slavery? Modern day, there they killing people to build Qatar's world cup. When did they give up slavery in these countries 1960's or later. Probably even DeFacto today.

Anyone that is Islam that is commenting on American lack of freedom needs to have a mirror shattered in front of their face. I get Islam preaches certain ethics, but when have they have actually implemented them. Point to a culture where they did anything but behave like spineless peons. Islam is a very populous culture surely somewhere they treat workers with respect and dignity. Why would you come to this country for "religious freedom" then continue to practice Islam? I don't get it. My relatives from China were quick to adopt Christianity. It was like a bonus, Oh and they can go to church. I don't even go to church, that is what they wanted.

If you would like to start a thread criticizing Islam, you are free to do so. In the meantime, it would be nice if you stayed on topic, which if you need a refresher, is MAGAs implementing Christian nationalism in the United States.

You have to mind the context, this weblog run by someone who appears to be an Islamist, so I think it is fair to ask before starting such a thread.

As the OP, kindly asking they you start a different thread as you are not staying on topic here.

It seems that you are asking me to tolerate religious freedoms, I am continuing to explain why I do not want to be tolerant. Try to stay on topic.

That's not the topic of this thread! Since you very transparently and desperately want to redirect any conversation to bash Islam, go start a new thread doing just that.

I made very good case for not being tolerant of certain relgious freedoms.

No, you actually didn't, but it's really cute that you think you did -- kind of like a kindergartener being very proud that their very good scribbles are hung on the refrigerator. In any event, it's completely irrelevant to MAGAs establishing Christian nationalism in the United States.

Well if the alternative, is to being employed by Islamists (or other religions) who try to impose their beliefs on me in the name of religious "freedom", then yeah have at it.

1a is not being repealed in America so your only solution is to move. Otherwise, stop whining like a cry baby and seek therapy. You cannot legally prevent people from practicing Islam in America.

Suck it up, buttercup.

I don’t think you understand their point

But onto my point: there are limitations to religious freedom. Polygamy is outlawed and you can’t stone women to death for being raped.

You can’t stone women to death for being raped, yet.