Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


Hence the question, sure, that would be the reason to post. Care to elaborate?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


DP. The founding fathers intended for us to be freely able to be atheists, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus, whatever we like.
Anyone who thinks they wanted for us to be a Christian nation the way Trump does is the confused one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


Why didn’t you answer their question?You don’t even know what you want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


DP. The founding fathers intended for us to be freely able to be atheists, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus, whatever we like.
Anyone who thinks they wanted for us to be a Christian nation the way Trump does is the confused one.


+1

Atheists have an IQ average of 122 while religious cult freaks have an average IQ of 103. I'm sticking with the smart, normal people.
Anonymous
MAGA is divided between people who want a forced Christian nation and those who just want to be free to be racist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


DP. The founding fathers intended for us to be freely able to be atheists, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus, whatever we like.
Anyone who thinks they wanted for us to be a Christian nation the way Trump does is the confused one.


Trump isn’t even a Christian. He just hires all of these fake Christians for his staff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


DP. The founding fathers intended for us to be freely able to be atheists, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus, whatever we like.
Anyone who thinks they wanted for us to be a Christian nation the way Trump does is the confused one.


Trump isn’t even a Christian. He just hires all of these fake Christians for his staff.


+1

We don't need fake Christians and Muslims "policing" the world anymore. We are a much more peaceful world without religious extremism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


DP. The founding fathers intended for us to be freely able to be atheists, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus, whatever we like.
Anyone who thinks they wanted for us to be a Christian nation the way Trump does is the confused one.


Trump isn’t even a Christian. He just hires all of these fake Christians for his staff.


+1

We don't need fake Christians and Muslims "policing" the world anymore. We are a much more peaceful world without religious extremism.


Yes, atheistic societies throughout history have been proven to have led the way in peace and prosperity.
Anonymous
I Christian nation where you are allowed to pick your own Protestant denomination.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.


Hence the question, sure, that would be the reason to post. Care to elaborate?


I'm not particularly religious myself. But I think atheist such as the OP take for granted how easy going the de facto Amercian religion is.

The more I've been exposed to religions such as Islam, Hinduism etc, the less I am inclined to think yeah we need more of that. For example, having worked with these people as managers and executives at companies.

It's pretty shocking when they are upset about you are not working on Sunday. I know it's hard to believe but Islam doesn't rest on Sunday. When's the last time you heard an Atheist, "Nah, I don't believe in Sunday rest that is stupid god talk."

I'd take American Christianity over Chinese Atheism any day. I'm talking about quality of life here.

Anonymous
A free nation inhabited primarily by Christians
Anonymous
They want an American version of apartheid and a reshaped version of Christianity to rationalize their choice to espouse it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They want an American version of apartheid and a reshaped version of Christianity to rationalize their choice to espouse it.


Calumny
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MAGA is divided between people who want a forced Christian nation and those who just want to be free to be racist.


It’s definitely a venn diagram with some overlap.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A Christian nation. They won't care about freedom until fellow Magas come for them, for whatever reason.


Did you have this much angst when democrats were pushing the state of Michigan to install foot baths in State Universities for muslims at public expense?


1. Student fees, not tax dollars, paid for the foot baths.

2. The university, not Democrats, pushed for this. Students were using regular sinks, which were getting pulled away from the wall and causing water damage to the bathrooms.

3. Using bathroom sinks is unhygienic and dangerous for students who have to balance on one foot on a slippery tile floor.

4. At any university, school funds go towards providing services that not everyone uses. Hillel and kosher meals for Jewish students. The Catholic Campus ministry for Catholic students. LGBTQ for LGBTQ students, and so on. In this case, the foot baths are available to everyone. Many non-Muslim students have expressed interest in using them, such as athletes.

5. “Democrats” and “Muslims” should be capitalized. We know you’re not uneducated because you were careful to capitalize Michigan and State Universities. Are you doing this subconsciously out of disrespect?

6. Always get the full story before forming an opinion. Right wing outrage bait simplifies everything and is lying to you.
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