Private school is a terrible ROI for middle class people

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are in college now and the kids who left for private didn’t have any better college outcomes than the kids who stayed. Bright kids are going to thrive anywhere.

You need to read the other millions of threads on this. Most of us don't send our kids to private for college outcomes. If that's your goal stay public! We send our kids private for whole child development, leadership development, social development etc. in addition to academic development - which is still better at private because of smaller more engaging classes.

I sent one of my kids for a year at TJ and on all those fronts mentioned above it was a disaster - he went back to his private school and my younger 3 never attended public.

Good for you, but nobody cares. The point of this thread was ROI for people who can’t easily afford private school

DP

You must be thick. The point of that post is directly aligned with the topic. If college is your goal and you are middle class - stay public. The PP that this poster responded to (probably you) didn't understand why people would choose private school if college outcomes are the same - I think the post covers that. Clearly, your ISEE reading comprehension score would be too low for private school.

You’re thick- my question was why middle class people who can’t easily afford college would choose private over public. I know why parents choose private because I’ve heard them opine about it time and time again.

Maybe they are planning on a state school or going for merit aid. Maybe they qualify for financial aid at universities or even at the private K-12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And many private schools in this area aren’t 30k-they’re closer to 60k per year

Grandparents pay.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps middle class needs to be defined here.

The median HHI in Washington, DC is $110k. In theory, that is literally Middle Class.

My understanding is that at say a Big3 DMV private, that family would receive significant aid...maybe even 100%.

I think they also might be entitled to something at DMV Catholic schools...but maybe only in HS.

I just don't see how it's possible for true middle class parents to be paying all that much for private school unless they are too proud to ask for FA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These pro private school posters are simply not middle class. They just aren’t. The only true middle class people paying for private school are doing it for religious reasons which tend to be cheaper anyway, plus you can see the financial sacrifices they are making in their homes, vacations etc.

This ain’t rocket science.

I am one of these posters and sent my kids to Catholic schools with nothing beyond a 401K for savings and a one income family of $200K at the time. Of course our income got better as time went on (significantly actually) so we were lucky. But we took the risk and sacrifice and it was 100% worth it!!

Exactly. So when you were middle income and had no savings you made the choice for religious reasons. Most people know that Catholic schools aren’t rigorous academically and many are against again a lot of the Catholic teachings. I don’t want my kid going to a HS that expects her to attend the March For Life. Just no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are in college now and the kids who left for private didn’t have any better college outcomes than the kids who stayed. Bright kids are going to thrive anywhere.

You need to read the other millions of threads on this. Most of us don't send our kids to private for college outcomes. If that's your goal stay public! We send our kids private for whole child development, leadership development, social development etc. in addition to academic development - which is still better at private because of smaller more engaging classes.

I sent one of my kids for a year at TJ and on all those fronts mentioned above it was a disaster - he went back to his private school and my younger 3 never attended public.

Good for you, but nobody cares. The point of this thread was ROI for people who can’t easily afford private school

But actually somebody cares and that person chose to post just how much they cared on this forum. The real point is why do they care that much about someone else’s choices and decisions? Girl, bye….go ahead and pick up your copy of The Let Them Theory. If the ROI is not high enough to purchase it then borrow it from your local library…as a matter of fact, just read the back cover. It will change your life. I promise you.

[Anonymous]

If kids are getting into trouble or have special needs, private makes sense or you live in an area with bad public schools. My brother is a college and educational advisor and this is his experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are in college now and the kids who left for private didn’t have any better college outcomes than the kids who stayed. Bright kids are going to thrive anywhere.

You need to read the other millions of threads on this. Most of us don't send our kids to private for college outcomes. If that's your goal stay public! We send our kids private for whole child development, leadership development, social development etc. in addition to academic development - which is still better at private because of smaller more engaging classes.

I sent one of my kids for a year at TJ and on all those fronts mentioned above it was a disaster - he went back to his private school and my younger 3 never attended public.

Good for you, but nobody cares. The point of this thread was ROI for people who can’t easily afford private school

But actually somebody cares and that person chose to post just how much they cared on this forum. The real point is why do they care that much about someone else’s choices and decisions? Girl, bye….go ahead and pick up your copy of The Let Them Theory. If the ROI is not high enough to purchase it then borrow it from your local library…as a matter of fact, just read the back cover. It will change your life. I promise you.

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These pro private school posters are simply not middle class. They just aren’t. The only true middle class people paying for private school are doing it for religious reasons which tend to be cheaper anyway, plus you can see the financial sacrifices they are making in their homes, vacations etc.

This ain’t rocket science.

I am one of these posters and sent my kids to Catholic schools with nothing beyond a 401K for savings and a one income family of $200K at the time. Of course our income got better as time went on (significantly actually) so we were lucky. But we took the risk and sacrifice and it was 100% worth it!!

Exactly. So when you were middle income and had no savings you made the choice for religious reasons. Most people know that Catholic schools aren’t rigorous academically and many are against again a lot of the Catholic teachings. I don’t want my kid going to a HS that expects her to attend the March For Life. Just no.

Sorry, but that is totally untrue. My daughter's school is very rigorous one of the high schools that sends at least 20% to top 20 schools...and it is relatively middle of the road politically. You can attend the march for life if you want. A handful of people go. There are scores of students who are not Catholic. So we got everything we wanted...a top notch education with Catholic teachings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These pro private school posters are simply not middle class. They just aren’t. The only true middle class people paying for private school are doing it for religious reasons which tend to be cheaper anyway, plus you can see the financial sacrifices they are making in their homes, vacations etc.

This ain’t rocket science.

I am one of these posters and sent my kids to Catholic schools with nothing beyond a 401K for savings and a one income family of $200K at the time. Of course our income got better as time went on (significantly actually) so we were lucky. But we took the risk and sacrifice and it was 100% worth it!!

Exactly. So when you were middle income and had no savings you made the choice for religious reasons. Most people know that Catholic schools aren’t rigorous academically and many are against again a lot of the Catholic teachings. I don’t want my kid going to a HS that expects her to attend the March For Life. Just no.

Who asked you to send your kid to Catholic school? You're really spiraling here. Go get a nice cold drink...enjoy your Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps middle class needs to be defined here.

The median HHI in Washington, DC is $110k. In theory, that is literally Middle Class.

My understanding is that at say a Big3 DMV private, that family would receive significant aid...maybe even 100%.

I think they also might be entitled to something at DMV Catholic schools...but maybe only in HS.

I just don't see how it's possible for true middle class parents to be paying all that much for private school unless they are too proud to ask for FA.

This 100%. We have many middle class families at our school, and they are getting close to full freight. And then for college, these families typically send their kids to state schools, schools that offer generous merit, or top schools that meet 100% of financial need. It just requires a bit of effort.

Now that's not helping the donut families....they are the ones who suffer, and I will bet most of the whiners on this thread are in that category. Just keep your kid in public if you don't want to make the sacrifice. I am sure they will turn out just fine. No judgement!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to put your kids in a public school to know that they are filled with violent students and underperforming teachers.

students. FIFY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps middle class needs to be defined here.

The median HHI in Washington, DC is $110k. In theory, that is literally Middle Class.

My understanding is that at say a Big3 DMV private, that family would receive significant aid...maybe even 100%.

I think they also might be entitled to something at DMV Catholic schools...but maybe only in HS.

I just don't see how it's possible for true middle class parents to be paying all that much for private school unless they are too proud to ask for FA.

No, idiot, that's middle income. Middle class is a lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These pro-public school parents will do anything to justify their poor decisions to expose their kids to the cut-throat (literally!!) environment of public schools. Just admit you were too selfish to sacrifice or make any effort to find a better place for your kid. I hope they are ok.

Sorry you can’t afford a nice neighborhood in the exurbs. We still have good schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If private school tuition is 30k a year and you instead invest this money at 7% returns from age 5 through 18, you'll have over 600k by college age. If this 600k was invested another 12 years until 30 it would become almost $1.5M.

I know some people are rich enough to do both but if you can only choose one, what would it be? I think at the very least private school tuition should be cut and you give this money to your kid in young adulthood to help them with buying a house or something. I see so many people who aren't even rich sending kids to private and I just wonder why they do this when it would be way more impactful to their children's future to just invest the money to gift to them as adults.

What are you getting 7% guaranteed returns on? Are you figuring for taxes. Gov loves to take your earnings.

But yeah it's expensive. MUCH BETTER to home-school, unless one makes so much money at their job that they can afford private school or better yet a private in home teacher or pooling with other parents for one, then the thread would be moot though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These pro-public school parents will do anything to justify their poor decisions to expose their kids to the cut-throat (literally!!) environment of public schools. Just admit you were too selfish to sacrifice or make any effort to find a better place for your kid. I hope they are ok.

Sorry you can’t afford a nice neighborhood in the exurbs. We still have good schools.

Oh I probably live in a more expensive home than you. There's plenty of bad stuff happening in our high school which is an MCPS W school. there was a stabbing there not long ago actually. Glad we avoided that! There are no more GOOD public schools...they all have issues now.