80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

[Anonymous]

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Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

All these men calling women gold diggers etc are not going to want to pay a woman to rent her womb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 80/20 Rule creates a land of Sexual Oligarchs and Paupers.

I feel so sorry for the guys on the other side of the wall.

It’s been debunked. How sad of you to continue living in this weird fantasy land.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood why single men insist on using a medium that overly benefits women. OLD is mainly built for women. I never tried OLD. I got rejected left and right and at times looked desperate, but I eventually found a woman that I would have probably never found had I gone online.

Ironically she was single and swiping for men on OLD. At the time she said I was the first man to approach her in a non creepy way in person.

Men just need to try their luck in person. I'll go as far as saying that if a man can't find a woman on OLD and he is not willing to try in person, he is actually better of just single. He will be doing himself a favor.

They grew up online that's why. The weird Tech bros who can't look at women in the eyes figured the only way for them to have a woman is for the initial contact to be through pixels. Sadly they are changing our society in ways thats not good for us normal people

Have you heard of the Gen Z stare? It's really a thing. None of the younger people I work with (guys especially) can look you in the eye. They do this weird stare where they don't speak. They're definitely not there to make friends. I'm a millennial and I'm not interested in work friends either, but I do like to know everyone and be "work friendly." I've noticed it in public, but it's even more apparent at work where we actually know each other and email all day.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the story about "West Elm Caleb"?
Tall, handsome, straight furniture designer who was "dating" every young woman in NYC and they were all crying about him on social media because they all thought they were his one true love.
Men will do whatever they can get away with. It's because we carry the babies that we need to be picky. Part of that means not sleeping with a guy the day you meet him and figuring out that, oh, this guy will never commit and isn't worth my time.

As West End Caleb showed, women don't want to make that choice. Instead, they get mad and blame Caleb for their choices.

Young women, just emerged from their parents' loving home, think that they are so special that the handsome prince will surely fall in love with them. I wish my mother would have given it to me straight about what dogs men can be, and what to actually look for in a man. I was too idealistic.

Well, maybe the social construct becomes more like the animal kingdom. Those 20% of males impregnate the 80% of females that want to have children to pass on their good genes. Of course, no monogamy here, unless you’re the last lucky female to snag him at the end of his productive breeding years.

I honestly wonder if the average height in the US is going to get taller when most of the short men lose out on women.

Yes, that’s a correct observation. Men’s average height is going taller. For older white male it’s 5’10. For younger 5’11. Presumably next generation will be 6’ average

Actually Americans are shrinking: https://theweek.com/health/height-in-america-shorter-public-health

Illegal immigration of short unvaccinated people

Nope, did you read the article? It's homegrown Americans getting shorter and fatter due to lack of investment in public health.

NP that article is wrong. I've read many that stated that white and black men are not getting shorter. The average in America is falling slightly due to most of our recent immigrants being from Asia and Central/S America.

But yeah all Americans are getting fatter.

[Anonymous]

20% of pretty much any population is exceptional whether it be looks, physique, wealth, whatever.

A fair amount of any population is delusional and thinks they have a chance with the 20% that are exceptional, every now and then one of them gets lucky but most of the time they are kept below the bottleneck where they belong.

[Anonymous]

I don't see a problem at all. The amount of effort women put into finding the right guy just to start all over makes me wonder whether they are just being sold an illusion to keep them hook on the platforms. Sure it can be ego boosting knowing that at any time you can have any guy you want on OLD. Some men just complain too much about OLD, I'm just not convinced it's that much better for women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

It’s actually a lot worst vs that. The 5% get about 65% of the swipes and the bottom 60% of men get no “real” swipes(lots of bots and fan only site stuff). This percentage is easy to do when you set your filters.

Turns out the top men get more swipe vs the top women. Also the apps will show the top men more to keep women on the site. Remember it is a business.

There is also a trend of men not approaching women IRL. Think that is a combination of Covid hangover, #metoo, those “look at this creepy guy hitting on me” instagram post, dating apps, women for years saying they do not want to be approached and men opting out of dating. I think is it like 50% of men 18-25 have not approached a woman in a year. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this but it makes you question the men who still doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 80% of men still get people to swipe on them they just get less swipes. So this “loneliness” epidemic is actually false.

It’s not that the “lonely man” can’t get dates. It’s just that they’re too lazy and too cheap to plan a good date and then.

The epidemic of loneliness is false? Really. Please go on, PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood why single men insist on using a medium that overly benefits women. OLD is mainly built for women. I never tried OLD. I got rejected left and right and at times looked desperate, but I eventually found a woman that I would have probably never found had I gone online.

Ironically she was single and swiping for men on OLD. At the time she said I was the first man to approach her in a non creepy way in person.

Men just need to try their luck in person. I'll go as far as saying that if a man can't find a woman on OLD and he is not willing to try in person, he is actually better of just single. He will be doing himself a favor.

They grew up online that's why. The weird Tech bros who can't look at women in the eyes figured the only way for them to have a woman is for the initial contact to be through pixels. Sadly they are changing our society in ways thats not good for us normal people

Have you heard of the Gen Z stare? It's really a thing. None of the younger people I work with (guys especially) can look you in the eye. They do this weird stare where they don't speak. They're definitely not there to make friends. I'm a millennial and I'm not interested in work friends either, but I do like to know everyone and be "work friendly." I've noticed it in public, but it's even more apparent at work where we actually know each other and email all day.

I have noticed that they kind of just shut the world out. The amount of young people I see walking around in the grocery store with headphones is surprising. And it isn’t just them listening to music, that’s them telling you to leave them alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood why single men insist on using a medium that overly benefits women. OLD is mainly built for women. I never tried OLD. I got rejected left and right and at times looked desperate, but I eventually found a woman that I would have probably never found had I gone online.

Ironically she was single and swiping for men on OLD. At the time she said I was the first man to approach her in a non creepy way in person.

Men just need to try their luck in person. I'll go as far as saying that if a man can't find a woman on OLD and he is not willing to try in person, he is actually better of just single. He will be doing himself a favor.

They grew up online that's why. The weird Tech bros who can't look at women in the eyes figured the only way for them to have a woman is for the initial contact to be through pixels. Sadly they are changing our society in ways thats not good for us normal people

Have you heard of the Gen Z stare? It's really a thing. None of the younger people I work with (guys especially) can look you in the eye. They do this weird stare where they don't speak. They're definitely not there to make friends. I'm a millennial and I'm not interested in work friends either, but I do like to know everyone and be "work friendly." I've noticed it in public, but it's even more apparent at work where we actually know each other and email all day.

I have noticed that they kind of just shut the world out. The amount of young people I see walking around in the grocery store with headphones is surprising. And it isn’t just them listening to music, that’s them telling you to leave them alone.

They are the smart ones. They don't to waste their time forcing their opinions on others like we Gen X do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

Yep. However, until then men need to try harder than women if they want partner to build a family.

And if they want sex with women. Women won't need to put up with bad sex to have a family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

It’s actually a lot worst vs that. The 5% get about 65% of the swipes and the bottom 60% of men get no “real” swipes(lots of bots and fan only site stuff). This percentage is easy to do when you set your filters.

Turns out the top men get more swipe vs the top women. Also the apps will show the top men more to keep women on the site. Remember it is a business.

There is also a trend of men not approaching women IRL. Think that is a combination of Covid hangover, #metoo, those “look at this creepy guy hitting on me” instagram post, dating apps, women for years saying they do not want to be approached and men opting out of dating. I think is it like 50% of men 18-25 have not approached a woman in a year. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this but it makes you question the men who still doing it.

Just like OLD a couple of bad guys ruined the experience. I remember I rejected a man very calmly and respectfully and then he proceeded to follow me around the bar and then screamed at me when I wouldn’t change my mind. The amount of gross comments I get on the apps makes me want to quit. The normal people are getting stressed out by the weirdos and then exiting the dating scene.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe men need to focus on self-improvement, health, their weight, appearance, good fashion, etc. just like women do.
In our society, females are largely trained from childhood that you have to look good to be noticed. Men gotta catch up if they want to be seen.

Lol. I am not too focused on looks, but I am always shocked at the difference in effort made by couples on the street. The women usually look nice and put together, and the husbands look like crap.

[Anonymous]

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Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

Yep. However, until then men need to try harder than women if they want partner to build a family.

And if they want sex with women. Women won't need to put up with bad sex to have a family.

But they do because most women are looking for the top 5-10%. These guys have more options than they know what to do with and women know the competition is fierce. It’s just a supply and demand situation. Over a 1/3 of men are not interested in dating, getting married, etc. The US is become more and more like Japan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

Lol!! Like a man would want to raise kids on his own!! Get out of here with this stupidity.

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