If you only care about merit, then nothing beyond performance on a standardized exam required of all students and/or GPA should matter. |
Sure, then most prestigious universities will be majority Asian and female. I am ok with that. |
I went there. Did you? |
WTF! So dumb. I’m sure the felon score a cool 1600. Why is there such a logic fail with MAGA? |
I’m okay with this. And I say this as someone who has one kid with Cs and even a D from freshman year. I think the made up volunteer hours and EC fluff has gotten out of control too. |
When affirmative action came up at the Supreme Court, universities provided no evidence backing up that statement. |
And why would asians want a preference for white males? Or legacies? |
You're not most people white lady. |
Because they can be a very distinguishing factor. A kid with an unweighted 4.0. Who does nothing but study is very different than a kid with an unweighted 4.0 who worked 20 hours a week to make money for the family or a kid who trained for an Olympic sport 40+ hours a week and still got the 4.0. Or maybe a kid had a very relevant EC or an exceptional EC. It also helps the schools get a feel for the kids and how they might participate in the school community and whether they are a fit. My decidedly unintellectual kid would hate Chicago, whereas my intellectually curious one would thrive there, but their grades and scores may not make that obvious. |
Grok disagrees with you: The claim that universities “provided no evidence” to support the claim that exposure to diverse populations makes one a better professional is inaccurate. In the Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) cases, universities presented evidence, including social science research, amicus briefs from business and military leaders, and institutional data, to argue that diversity in education yields benefits, including professional ones. While the Supreme Court ruled against race-based admissions, it did so on the grounds that the policies were not narrowly tailored and used overly broad racial categories, not because no evidence was provided. |
I don't know where people are getting this idea that there is some pronounced preference for male students. Especially at the top end. The harvard lawsuit provided a lot of data and which gender do you think had the higher standardized test scores? I'll give you a hint: https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf There's about 10% more women applying yo college than there are men and this is causing a mismatch in the applicant pool as you get further down the rankings but it's not happening at the top. You probably dont see any effect within Ivy+ |
Do Asian men exist in your world? When comparing like to like there is a small but real pay gap but let's not pretend that women who mostly major in things that won't earn money should make as much as men that major in things specifically because they make money should somehow end up being paid the same amount of money. Also lets not pretend that populations with higher college graduation rates from rigorous majors should be making as much as populations with lower college graduation rates from rigorous majors. |
It's usually some work study student. Just send a letter. |
Generations of students at the top colleges have noticed what research has confirmed. The students at the bottom of the class are are more likely to be URM. Sure there are URM kids at spread throughout the class but there is a high concentration of URM kids at the bottom of the class. |
Do you feel this way about universal health care and gun control as well? Who cares what the rest fo the worlds does, we do it the American way! |